Asia Or Apnic Just Ran Out Of Ipv4 Address

[livinthailandos]

APNIC ( Asia Pacific Network Information Centre just ran out of ipv4 address. more researching online As of february IANA gave the final IPv4 blocks to the RIRs ( Regional Internet Registry )

now that apnic has no ipv4 address this move triggers a very strict delegation policy and IPv4 addresses will not be available the conventional way any longer, please note apnic covers 56 countries around the asia pacific region

ISP's most likely will make sure they have enough IPaddress for x amount of time, but as demand grows for more ipv4 address it will be the end users that will run into shortages first

basically we’ve lost the opportunity for a convenient, leisurely switch to IPv6. We must now operate in a so-called “dual-stack” world where every network runs both IPv4 and IPv6. One day soon, a new Internet business will request some addresses, and their registry will turn them down. Once the registries run out, the only thing they can do is watch as address “owners” begin selling address space on the spot market.

whats the point of this topic, just don't be surprised when you can no longer access the internet because you can't get an ip address and also because of how thailand is don't be surprised that thailand may not move forward on this, after all they can't even solve the issue of 3G let alone manage changing to ipv6

any comments you want to put feel free to put down.

Edited April 15, 2011 by livinthailandos

[phazey]

whats the point of this topic, just don't be surprised when you can no longer access the internet because you can't get an ip address and also because of how thailand is don't be surprised that thailand may not move forward on this, after all they can't even solve the issue of 3G let alone manage changing to ipv6

Stop scaremongering - this will never happen.

I also suggest you learn the OSI model.

[Valentine]

I thought that once all the numbers for Ipv4 run out then they will start issuing Ipv6 addresses which means then you will need a modem which is configured for both Ipv4 & Ipv6.

[whybother]

I thought that once all the numbers for Ipv4 run out then they will start issuing Ipv6 addresses which means then you will need a modem which is configured for both Ipv4 & Ipv6.

Wouldn't that mean that more than just *your* modem would need to handle IPv6?

I think the main issue is that many of the networking devices that make up the back bone still can't handle IPv6.

Edited April 16, 2011 by whybother

[Prasert]

How many times before did we see this news? We've been running out of IP addresses for years now.

But the real problem is that there are enough IP addresses, but people don't know how to manage these ranges. Start with the end-user, who in general has this attitude:

I want to use the internet, but

-I don't wanna know how a computer works, and I don't wanna learn

-I don't know how the internet works, and I couldn't care less

-I don't want to pay for it, in fact internet should be for free!

Next are the ISPs, where employees are trying to cope with a lack of knowledge that is hardly smaller compared to the average enduser.

As Phazey mentioned, the OSI model is the primary building block of the internet and all computers and applications running on it. Unfortunately, hardly any engineer or software programmer can explain it in 7 sentences.

The equipment used on the backbones (Cisco, Juniper, Nortel, Foundry etc) has been capable of handling IPv6 for many years now. The same goes for the management software as 99% is unix-based. Unix and it's primary network applications have been able to handle IPv6 for many years. In fact, IPv6 is already running on quite a large part of the internet, although Asia is not included in that part.

The only missing part is knowledge.

[Prasert]

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In fact, IPv6 is already running on quite a large part of the internet, although Asia is not included in that part.

I will take this back, as Asian ISPs are catching up fast.

Looking into IPv6, I found Hurricane Electric and they provide IPv6 connectivity through www.tunnelbroker.net

I signed up for a free account, created a tunnel through the web interface to Singapore and applied for a free /48 subnet.

Configuring IPv6 on the network seems like a difficult task but it turned out to be much easier than IPv4!

An IPv6 address looks like this: 2001:4701:ab86:1000:da5d:4cff:fe82:91e0

When broken up into pieces it becomes more clear how the address is built up:

2001:4701:ab86:1000:da5d:4cff:fe82:91e0

2001:4701:ab86 is the subnet assigned by the ISP (/48)

:1000:da is for local subnets, and yours to assign!

5d:4cff:fe82:91e0 is automatically derived from the mac address of your network adapter (in this case the mac address is D8:5D:4C:82:91:E0)

The nice part of IPv6 is that once it is configured on the router, all hosts on the connected network will automatically configure themselves. Dhcp is no longer required, and with virtually unlimited IP addresses for local use, NAT is no longer required. So nomore portforwarding headaches to get your torrents going!

Quite a large amount of websites are accessible over IPv6. An example of a traceroute (with nnnn disguising my address):

Tracing the route to eztv.it (2A00:1A28:1151:4::98:443)

1 2001:470:nnnn:1200::1 52 msec 36 msec 36 msec

2 2001:470:nnnn:5:20D:BCFF:FEBB:7AA0 68 msec 36 msec 36 msec

3 2001:470:nnnn:32::1 340 msec 300 msec 316 msec

4 gige-g2-13.core1.sin1.he.net (2001:470:0:17C::1) 328 msec 356 msec 304 msec

5 gige-g3-12.core1.hkg1.he.net (2001:470:0:177::1) 360 msec 412 msec 392 msec

6 gige-g3-7.core1.lax1.he.net (2001:470:0:16B::1) 580 msec * 508 msec

7 10gigabitethernet4-3.core1.nyc4.he.net (2001:470:0:10E::2) 608 msec 572 msec 596 msec

8 10gigabitethernet3-3.core1.lon1.he.net (2001:470:0:128::2) 668 msec 636 msec 676 msec

9 2001:7F8:4::A6D4:1 672 msec 640 msec 672 msec

10 te-2-1.sto3.se.portlane.net (2A00:1A28:1:2003::1) 720 msec 800 msec 664 msec

11 te-3-2.sto1.se.portlane.net (2A00:1A28:1:2001::2) 664 msec 708 msec 692 msec

12 te-3-4-234-dcp-demarc.sto1.se.portlane.net (2A00:1A28:1:4003::2) 716 msec 672 msec *

13 2A00:1A28:1151:1336:2::2 668 msec 692 msec *

14 eztv.it (2A00:1A28:1151:4::98:443) 720 msec 704 msec 664 msec

Despite the latency caused by the tunnel connection, it's fun to see how utorrent easily connects to other IPv6 hosts and starts to download (the newest linux release) fast!

Google has moved onto IPv6 (http://ipv6.google.com/)

How long will it take for thaivisa.com to move onto IPv6?

And how long will it take for Thailand to come up with IPv6, as this new technology happens to bypass any government blocks........