Pheu Thai Approaches EC Over Democrat Remarks

[phiphidon]

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Still though, it would be interesting if the EC dissolved the Democrats because one of its party executives alleged that PTP had terrorists within their party list MPs - and then, in the future, those defendants were convicted of terrorism. I wonder what would happen then?

Did k. Suthep refer to UDD leaders as terrorists, UDD leaders who just happen to be on the PTP party list of MP candidates recently; or did he refer to PTP candidates as terrorists?

Interesting is another faction of the red-shirts on Thursday rallied at the office of the Department of Special Investigation demanding an ouster of DSI chief Tharit Pengdit and a DSI reform.

Your first point - if you truly believe the magic formula you wouldn't have to ask that question, it would be self evident.

Your 2nd point - Please don't perpetuate this american english word, it's bad enough the americans using it, followed slavishly by the thais. The original English speaker refers to this sort of thing as "a removal from office" to avoid the use of ouster which has unhealthy connotations of Norman English - we have a very long history - and a memory to match.

[themockrat]

The Democrats have adopted the "Bush doctrine". Either you're with us or you're a terrorist.

Totally incorrect, just applies to a few UDD leaders who just happen to have felt the urge to escape justice represent the people in a democratic way. The others are worthy opponents with which a democratic fight called 'elections' is held.

So if they're really dangerous city-torching terrorists, why were they let out of jail?

[rubl]

They appear rather desperate to de-link the PTP red candidates with their handiwork of the last two Songkran seasons, and their aftermaths. Clearly this is interlocking mirror image threats. One side wants to keep public perception correctly on red PTP candidates connections to destruction, and the other side makes threats to silence those connections reminders. Thaksin tried to silence dissenting voices while in office, using law suits and or threats of multiple huge ones. similarly to how Nattuwat is attempting to do now. SOP, for team Thaksin.

Yep almost as desperate as the continual re-linking of any non democrat to violence, by certain people..............5 years for false allegations......does that apply to 'opinions' on internet forums?

Almost as desperate as trying to un-link violence and UDD leaders rhetoric which is the topic here. Pure coincidence some UDD leaders are clearly linked to violence through their own statements shoutcasted for the world to see. Equally pure coincidence those UDD leaders happened to end up on the PTP party list for MP candidates. Nothing to do with avoiding accountability and justice of course, pure selflessness, the urge to serve the people

[473geo]

The Democrats have adopted the "Bush doctrine". Either you're with us or you're a terrorist.

Totally incorrect, just applies to a few UDD leaders who just happen to have felt the urge to escape justice represent the people in a democratic way. The others are worthy opponents with which a democratic fight called 'elections' is held.

If there are party list members who may be required to be part of the due process to reconcile the country then that is fine. However if they are possibly not suitable material for government department leaders, then that would leave the door open to install some of the coalition partner leaders in responsible positions......would it not?

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[473geo]

They appear rather desperate to de-link the PTP red candidates with their handiwork of the last two Songkran seasons, and their aftermaths. Clearly this is interlocking mirror image threats. One side wants to keep public perception correctly on red PTP candidates connections to destruction, and the other side makes threats to silence those connections reminders. Thaksin tried to silence dissenting voices while in office, using law suits and or threats of multiple huge ones. similarly to how Nattuwat is attempting to do now. SOP, for team Thaksin.

Yep almost as desperate as the continual re-linking of any non democrat to violence, by certain people..............5 years for false allegations......does that apply to 'opinions' on internet forums?

Almost as desperate as trying to un-link violence and UDD leaders rhetoric which is the topic here. Pure coincidence some UDD leaders are clearly linked to violence through their own statements shoutcasted for the world to see. Equally pure coincidence those UDD leaders happened to end up on the PTP party list for MP candidates. Nothing to do with avoiding accountability and justice of course, pure selflessness, the urge to serve the people

On occasion positive change blossoms from unlikely areas.....

[whybother]

You forget to say that you are also not a yellow shirt.

What's the point? I'm labeled a yellow shirt by saying anything against the red shirts, the PTP or Thaksin.

[patjem]

Still more than 1 month to go, and we can already see which level this campain is going to be at. Now, stating a proven fact makes one risk of being sued.... Politic and politicians at their best. Whwsever is going to win and become the prime minister will certainly have a huge work to do to try and restore a bit of dignity and credibility.

Stating a proven fact? or personal opinion? most people that believe in the justice system would say that it is not a fact until the courts convict those charged, weather it be reds for last years antics or the yellows for their airports antics, same rule applies!

what's this got to do with 'spent force' yellows?

[samurai]

You forget to say that you are also not a yellow shirt.

What's the point? I'm labeled a yellow shirt by saying anything against the red shirts, the PTP or Thaksin.

You will fail to see the point when you take the quote out of the context. It was a reply.

[rubl]

The Democrats have adopted the "Bush doctrine". Either you're with us or you're a terrorist.

Totally incorrect, just applies to a few UDD leaders who just happen to have felt the urge to escape justice represent the people in a democratic way. The others are worthy opponents with which a democratic fight called 'elections' is held.

So if they're really dangerous city-torching terrorists, why were they let out of jail?

TiT. Actually those UDD leaders are not city-torching terrorists, they're much more dangerous. They rouse people to do the torching for them. As for bailed-out, well that's how the Thai juridical system works. Relatively fair, some only cry foul when it works against them.

[patjem]

I think Suthep might have shot himself in the foot with that statement. You can't call someone a terrorist unless he's been convicted, especially after you just let them out of prison while stating earlier that they're oh-so-dangerous.

Check the OED description for the words Terrorism and Terrorism.... It is not necessary for a court case in order to describe accurately as such..... Whatever next: reds will claiming it wrong to call Thaksin a fugitive!

[craigt3365]

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Edit: Please stay on topic.

[sbk]

Actually, a whole bunch of off topic posts deleted,

Please check the topic title and OP if you are unsure as to the topic of this thread, cheers

[Buchholz]

Anyway with PTP having put terrorist suspects on their party list for MP candidates they have opened themselves up for all kinds of comment. Having k. Natthawut complain is really hilarious, talk about selective memory.

Terrorist Suspect Out On Bail and Pheu Thai Party-list MP Candidate #8 Natthawut is making the news this afternoon in the other paper after denying reports that he issued veiled threats of violence if the Pheu Thai Party should win the largest number of MP's, but didn't get to form the next government.

[rubl]

Anyway with PTP having put terrorist suspects on their party list for MP candidates they have opened themselves up for all kinds of comment. Having k. Natthawut complain is really hilarious, talk about selective memory.

Terrorist Suspect Out On Bail and Pheu Thai Party-list MP Candidate #8 Natthawut is making the news this afternoon in the other paper after denying reports that he issued veiled threats of violence if the Pheu Thai Party should win the largest number of MP's, but didn't get to form the next government.

Minor correction. K. Natthawut is on position 9, k. Jatuporn is on eight.

[Buchholz]

Anyway with PTP having put terrorist suspects on their party list for MP candidates they have opened themselves up for all kinds of comment. Having k. Natthawut complain is really hilarious, talk about selective memory.

Terrorist Suspect Out On Bail and Pheu Thai Party-list MP Candidate #8 Natthawut is making the news this afternoon in the other paper after denying reports that he issued veiled threats of violence if the Pheu Thai Party should win the largest number of MP's, but didn't get to form the next government.

Minor correction. K. Natthawut is on position 9, k. Jatuporn is on eight.

Ah yes, that's right; they both got bumped back one place from the original list.

The boss rewarded Mingkwan with a place for his last minute decision not to dump the Party.