Current Thinking On How The Poll Will Play Out

[ballpoint]

Knowledgeable,decent and liberal people like Apisit are diamonds amongst the chaff of self interested dinosaurs visible in the other parties.

thanks for the laugh.

this is the same guy who was responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year eh ?

Stop bringing Thaksin into every thread.

[rubl]

Knowledgeable,decent and liberal people like Apisit are diamonds amongst the chaff of self interested dinosaurs visible in the other parties.

this is the same guy who was responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year eh ?

You forgot the 'he said kill them' and linking to freedom fighters in Northern Africa.

As PM at the time k. Abhisit bears responsability, just like those UDD leaders (and their sponsors) who roused their supporters into a killing frenzy.

[jdinasia]

Most BJT supporters also lean towards PT. Most dislike DEMs.

last election most of their voters voted for BJT because they expected Newin to stick with Thaksin.

BJT is paniking. im sure they will lose a lot of votes to PT this election

yes i think there is truth in this as evidenced by the recent BJT asking some of its members at the rally - they prefer PT - not very scientific I know but... anyway they are ALL fickle and we simply won't know until it's 'time'

Did it happen at all?

BTW -- Bung claims that the recent BJT remark indicates that they are leaning towards PTP .. I suggest he go back to the remarks where BJT said its ONLY goal was to be in the government and not the opposition and that they would form a coalition with the dems or ptp to meet that goal.

Feel free to go back over the past few years of posts in the political forums, I don't think you will find anyone that states that Newin is anything other than an opportunist. People will also say "if you want to know what is going to happen, watch Newin." The man is a scoundrel but he is one of the top players on the political field in Thailand.

[samurai]

Knowledgeable,decent and liberal people like Apisit are diamonds amongst the chaff of self interested dinosaurs visible in the other parties.

thanks for the laugh.

this is the same guy who was responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year eh ?

Stop bringing Thaksin into every thread.

Who brought Thaksin to the thread?

[ballpoint]

thanks for the laugh.

this is the same guy who was responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year eh ?

Stop bringing Thaksin into every thread.

Who brought Thaksin to the thread?

Since he is the guy who is responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year, the poster I was replying to did.

[Buchholz]

With part of the PTP campaign in North-East still blaming BJT for 'betraying Thaksin', it's difficult to imagine a 'fruitful' co-operation between the two. A lot of spin would be needed to explain to voters why k. Thaksin's PTP could even think of working together with traitors. Maybe just say 'reconciliation', 'amnesty' and that would be enough ? K. Chalerm hugging k. Newin ? Politics for breakfast anyone ?

Yingluck gave the same standard reply on the issue as she did for the debate issue:

Regarding the readiness expressed by the Bhumjaithai Party to work with the Pheu Thai Party as a coalition partner, Ms Yingluck responded that it is too soon to talk about the matter.

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255406010007

From theNation BreakingNews

2011-05-31 02:05PM Pheu Thai rules out working with Bhum Jai Thai

"Pheu Thai Party deputy leader Plodprasop Suraswadi Tuesday ruled out working in the same coalition with the Bhum Jai Thai Party."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Pheu-Thai-rules-out-working-with-Bhum-Jai-Thai-30156635.html

2011-06-01 02:44PM Yingluck says it's too soon to rule out working with Bhum Jai Thai

"Pheu Thai Party prime ministerial candidate Yingluck Shinawatra said Wednesday that it is too soon to rule out working in the same coalition with the Bhum Jai Thai Party."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Yingluck-says-its-too-soon-to-rule-out-working-wit-30156756.html

Can you blame me for being confused about this matter ?

Give them another 24 hours and 36 minutes and the Pheu Thai Party Spokesman will come out with a third position on the issue.

As if on cue (albeit from someone other than the PTP Spokesman):

The ex-premier's legal adviser Noppadon Patama, who is a key figure in Pheu Thai, said that it would be "very difficult" for the party to form a coalition with Newin's party

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=471872

the above also contains a restatement of the first version:

"Although Yingluck is still noncommittal about this, the big boss has been clear from the start," a Pheu Thai source said, referring to Thaksin's decision to "punish" Newin by leaving Bhum Jai Thai out of any coalition.

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Edited June 2, 2011 by Buchholz

[lanna2011]

Most BJT supporters also lean towards PT. Most dislike DEMs.

last election most of their voters voted for BJT because they expected Newin to stick with Thaksin.

BJT is paniking. im sure they will lose a lot of votes to PT this election

yes i think there is truth in this as evidenced by the recent BJT asking some of its members at the rally - they prefer PT - not very scientific I know but... anyway they are ALL fickle and we simply won't know until it's 'time'

Did it happen at all?

BTW -- Bung claims that the recent BJT remark indicates that they are leaning towards PTP .. I suggest he go back to the remarks where BJT said its ONLY goal was to be in the government and not the opposition and that they would form a coalition with the dems or ptp to meet that goal.

Feel free to go back over the past few years of posts in the political forums, I don't think you will find anyone that states that Newin is anything other than an opportunist. People will also say "if you want to know what is going to happen, watch Newin." The man is a scoundrel but he is one of the top players on the political field in Thailand.

well we can agree on that - yes Newin is an opportunist of the highest degree - but Suthep tops my list of 'scoundrels' and he's DPM!

[lanna2011]

thanks for the laugh.

this is the same guy who was responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year eh ?

Stop bringing Thaksin into every thread.

Who brought Thaksin to the thread?

Since he is the guy who is responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year, the poster I was replying to did.

no he didn't - read again

[ballpoint]

Since he is the guy who is responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year, the poster I was replying to did.

no he didn't - read again

this is the same guy who was responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year eh ?

= Thaksin.

[jdinasia]

Inside the Moat in Chiang Mai ------ Near ChiangMai Polytechnic college BJT is adding more all the time around the area.

Edited June 3, 2011 by jdinasia

[lanna2011]

Since he is the guy who is responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year, the poster I was replying to did.

no he didn't - read again

this is the same guy who was responsible for the deaths of 90+ people last year eh ?

= Thaksin.

I assume he meant = Abhisit

[Ricardo]

I read BJT saying they will work with 'anyone' to get into power so I'm guessing PT may have a chance at govt when everyone thought they would be annihilated - interesting times

Who's saying that PTP will get annihilated?

Most are saying that they will probably get the most seats, but not a majority.

Then it comes down to what the BJT and other smaller parties decide to do.

PTP have said that they won't partner with BJT ... but I'm sure that will change if the PTP need BJT to form government.

maybe i over exagerated but I have read some posters indicating that the Dems would win a landslide but I think this is wrong and PT will win the most single party votes - then the horsetrading - I did read at the weekend BJT saying they would join PT if necessary - will Abhisit survive?

The only claims of any landslide, that I've seen myself, were by a few extreme red-supporters. I have not seen, and would not agree with, any similar claim about the Democrats, I think there will be two big parties, and PPP/PTP may well be the slightly-larger of the two, despite their addopting UDD-leaders as MP-candidates after the events of last year, & their having lost 40-45 seats due to the Friends-of-Newin departing and a handful of expulsions of MPs who weren't thought to be loyal.

I would read PM-Abhisit's survival as open-to-question, his occasional stands against the military spending-plans and corruption may have shown that he's less-of-a-puppet than some pre-supposed, consider also the way the PAD have changed their view of the Democrat-led coalition-government over the past couple of years. This is to his credit, of course. But he is not seen as essential, to the Dems, in the way that Thaksin is to TRT/PPP/PTP.

So he may well be replaced as PM, in any post-election haggling to form a governing-coalition, that remains to be seen. Interesting times !