Hi,

Hope some seasoned travelers can offer some insight to booking flights on-line or through travel agent for this particular situation: I'm expecting a 4-5 month trip to Canada. My city of departure for the return to Thailand is unknown, neither is the return date (could be Oct / Nov / Dec). I resigned myself to booking a one way flight to Vancouver and then another to get back here when the return date can be known. It looks like I'll end up paying significantly more than what a round trip would cost. Is there no way to book a round trip with the return date and point of departure as speculative? Sage advice or useful tips are most welcome. Must leave soon.

thanks in advance,

Eva Air website does open returns, I would contact the airlines directly if possible.

Eva fly to Vancouver as well, check the box "open return", I have noticed that there is no significant price difference between an open return and a normal return booking.

Edited May 31, 201115 yr by beano2274

A flexible return ticket should offer what you are looking for but is likely to be more expensive than a fixed 'saver' ticket.

Key words in the terms and conditions are: re-routable and Date Change Permitted.

Try checking on a 6 month validity round trip ticket to Vancouver on China Airlines. They allow you to change your return date at no charge.

This looks to be great advice. One note: there needs to be exact fare bucket, W in this case, availability to avoid change fees. It looks like anything up to 6 months is 45,395 all-in. I might book a R/T, at the outside limit you think you might have for your trip, then change it if you have to return earlier. Then I might arrange one-way transport from ???-YVR to connect to YVR-BKK?

For the OP, do you have any idea what the departing city might be (ex-CANADA)? Obviously if it were another city that CI served you could book BKK-YVR-BKK, then change to an open jaw. The ticket would have to be re-issued and you'd have to pay more/fees.

Bangkok (BKK) to Vancouver (YVR) - Wed, Aug 10

Bangkok (BKK) to Taipei (TPE) - Wed, Aug 10

China Airlines 66 Dep: 8:25AM Arr: 1:00PM 3h 35m Boeing 747 Coach (W)

Layover in TPE 10h 0m

Taipei (TPE) to Vancouver (YVR) - Wed, Aug 10

China Airlines 32 Dep: 11:00PM Arr: 7:25PM 11h 25m Airbus A340 Coach (W)

Vancouver (YVR) to Bangkok (BKK) - Wed, Jan 18

Vancouver (YVR) to Taipei (TPE) - Wed, Jan 18

China Airlines 31 Dep: 12:30AM Arr: 6:00AM 13h 30m Airbus A340 Coach (W)

Layover in TPE Thu, Jan 19 1h 35m

Taipei (TPE) to Bangkok (BKK) - Thu, Jan 19

China Airlines 833 Dep: 7:35AM Arr: 10:25AM 3h 50m Boeing 737 Coach (W)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) 45,395.00

Total cost for 1 passenger 45,395.00

* All prices shown in THB

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Fare 1: Carrier CI WLAP BKK to YVR (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code W

Covers BKK-TPE (Coach), TPE-YVR (Coach)

19,230.00

Fare 2: Carrier CI WLAP YVR to BKK (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code W

Covers YVR-TPE (Coach), TPE-BKK (Coach)

19,230.00

CI YQ surcharge (YQ) 4,510.00

CI YQ surcharge (YQ) 380.00

Thailand Passenger Service Charge (TS) 700.00

Vancouver Airport Improvement Fee (SQ) 470.00

Canadian Harmonized Sales Tax (BC) (RC) 60.00

Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA) 815.00

Subtotal per passenger 45,395.00

Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES 45,395.00

Fare rules & restrictions

China Airlines CI WLAP BKK to YVR

General notes

BASIC SEASON ECONOMY ADVANCE PURCHASE W

FARES

Between CANADA and SOUTHEAST ASIA FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

Seasonal restrictions

ORIGINATING THAILAND -

PERMITTED 11JAN THROUGH 24JUN OR 25JUN THROUGH 15SEP ON

THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions

ORIGINATING AREA 3 -

RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF OUTBOUND

TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.

Stopover restrictions

UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN SFO/LAX/NYC/YVR/SEA.

AND - 1 FREE STOPOVER PERMITTED IN AREA 3.

AND - UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN AREA 3 AT THB 2000

EACH.

CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

Combinability

ADD-ONS PERMITTED.

END-ON-END

END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.

VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE

POINT OF COMBINATION.

OPEN JAWS

FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS

-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.

PROVIDED -

THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE

-BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA

-WITHIN CANADA OR WITHIN AREA 3

COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -1Y TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER CI

IN RULE 5111 IN TARIFF

IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC.

THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE

-BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA

-WITHIN CANADA OR WITHIN AREA 3

COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR CARRIER

CI IN RULE 5110/5800 IN TARIFF

IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC.

THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE

-BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA

-WITHIN CANADA OR WITHIN AREA 3

COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FIRST CLASS UNRESTRICTED/

BUSINESS UNRESTRICTED/ECONOMY UNRESTRICTED/FIRST CLASS

RESTRICTED/BUSINESS RESTRICTED/ECONOMY RESTRICTED-TYPE

FARES FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE IN THIS TARIFF.

ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS

FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS

-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS

-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.

PROVIDED -

COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR CARRIER

CI IN RULE 5110/5800 IN TARIFF

IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC.

COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FIRST CLASS UNRESTRICTED/

BUSINESS UNRESTRICTED/BUSINESS RESTRICTED/ECONOMY

UNRESTRICTED-TYPE FARES FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE IN

THIS TARIFF.

Surcharges

ORIGINATING AREA 3 -

A SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE

FARE FOR TRAVEL.

NOTE -

NAVAGATION SURCHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED AT THE

TIME OF TICKET ISSUANCE FOR ALL PASSENGERS ON A

FARE COMPONENT BASIS.

NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO --

1/PASSENGERS TRANSITING CANADA WHERE NO FARE

BREAK OCCURS.

2/ALL FARES TO/FROM JAPAN AND THE U.S. VIA THE

ATLANTIC OR PACIFIC.

THE AMOUNT TO BE CHARGED WILL BE INCORPORATED IN

THE FARE CALCULATION SHOWN AS A -Q- SURCHARGE.

THE SURCHARGE MAY BE CONVERTED TO THE APPLICABLE

CURRENCY FOR THE COUNTRY OR ORIGIN IN ACCORDANCE

WITH THE APPROPRIATE IATA RATE OF EXCHANGE. THE

SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER CHARGES

AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.

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THIS SURCHARGE CAN BE FOUND IN RULE 37

Sales restrictions

NOTE -

EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER

GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT

CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

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A TWD 1000 SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED FOR

EACH PTA SALES IN TAIWAN PROVINCE OF.

THIS SERVICE CHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT

AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED.

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A USD 100.00 SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED FOR

EACH PTA SALES IN THE UNITED STATES.

THIS SERVICE CHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT

AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED.

Penalties

CANCELLATIONS

CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED.

NOTE -

CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME

CHARGE THB 3000 FOR REFUND.

CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.

THB3000 IS NOT REFUNDABLE.

WAIVER MUST BE SUBSTANTIATED BY A DEATH

CERTIFICATE.

CHANGES

BEFORE DEPARTURE

CHANGES PERMITTED.

NOTE -

CHANGES

REBOOKING OF OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR IS

PERMITTED AT PAYMENT OF THB 3000 TO CI

WITH MANDATORY TICKET REISSUANCE.

REBOOKING OF ALL OTHER SECTORS THAN THE OUTBOUND

TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR IS PERMITTED WITHOUT PENALTY.

CHANGE OF ROUTING AND/OR OTHER CHANGES WHICH

REQUIRE TICKET REISSUANCE IS PERMITTED AT

THB 1000 PER TRANSACTION.

EXCEPTION -

1. INTERCHANGEABLE USE OF FLIGHT COUPON BETWEEN

LAX/SFO AND TPE IS ALLOWED AT PASSENGERS

REQUEST WITHOUT TICKET REISSUANCE WHEN NO

OTHER CARRIERS ARE INVOLVED IN AREA 1 OR NO

FURTHER TRAVELS WITHIN THE U.S. CONSTITUTE PART

OF THE UNCOMPLETED JOURNEY.

2. UPGRADE FROM ECONOMY CLASS TO BUSINESS OR

FIRST CLASS SERVICE.

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AFTER DEPARTURE -

PASSENGERS TICKETED AT A FARE WITH LOWER BOOKING

CLASS COULD BOOK HIGHER AVAILABLE CLASS

ENTITLED ALSO TO ECONOMY CLASS OF SERVICE ON

SECTORS SUBSEQUENT TO THE FIRST OUTBOUND SEGMENT

IF A SURCHARGE OF USD180.00 FOR TRANSPACIFIC

SEGMENTS OR USD80 FOR SEGMENTS WITHIN AREA 3 OR

USD50 FOR SEGMENTS BETWEEN TAIWAN AND HKG/OKA/MNL

IS PAID.

PASSENGER WILL BE PUT ON STANDBY LIST IF HE/SHE

CHOOSES NOT TO PAY THE HIGHER CLASS SURCHARGE

MENTIONED HEREWITH.

THIS SURCHARGE IS SUBJECT TO CHILD DISCOUNT.

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ABOVE PRACTICE COULD BE PERMITTED ONLY AFTER THE

PASSENGER ARRIVES AT THE IATA CONFERENCE AREA

OTHER THAN THAT HE/SHE ORIGINATES FROM.

NOTE -

1. TICKETS ORIGINALLY ISSUED IN A RBD LOWER

THAN Y/B/M CANNOT BE REBOOKED TO RBD

Y/B/M.

2. THE ABOVE RBD UPGRADE PRACTICE CANNOT BE

APPLIED TO TICKETS ORIGINALLY ISSUED IN

X CLASS.

REBOOKING OF OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR IS

PERMITTED AT PAYMENT OF TWD 2600 TO CI

WITH MANDATORY TICKET REISSUANCE.

AFTER DEPARTURE

CHANGES PERMITTED.

NOTE -

CHANGES

REBOOKING OF OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR IS

PERMITTED AT PAYMENT OF THB 3000 TO CI

WITH MANDATORY TICKET REISSUANCE.

REBOOKING OF ALL OTHER SECTORS THAN THE OUTBOUND

TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR IS PERMITTED WITHOUT PENALTY.

CHANGE OF ROUTING AND/OR OTHER CHANGES WHICH

REQUIRE TICKET REISSUANCE IS PERMITTED AT

THB 3000 PER TRANSACTION.

EXCEPTION -

1. INTERCHANGEABLE USE OF FLIGHT COUPON BETWEEN

LAX/SFO AND TPE IS ALLOWED AT PASSENGERS

REQUEST WITHOUT TICKET REISSUANCE WHEN NO

OTHER CARRIERS ARE INVOLVED IN AREA 1 OR NO

FURTHER TRAVELS WITHIN THE U.S. CONSTITUTE PART

OF THE UNCOMPLETED JOURNEY.

2. UPGRADE FROM ECONOMY CLASS TO BUSINESS OR

FIRST CLASS SERVICE.

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AFTER DEPARTURE -

PASSENGERS TICKETED AT A FARE WITH LOWER BOOKING

CLASS COULD BOOK HIGHER AVAILABLE CLASS

ENTITLED ALSO TO ECONOMY CLASS OF SERVICE ON

SECTORS SUBSEQUENT TO THE FIRST OUTBOUND SEGMENT

IF A SURCHARGE OF USD200.00 FOR TRANSPACIFIC

SEGMENTS OR USD80 FOR SEGMENTS WITHIN AREA 3 OR

USD50 FOR SEGMENTS BETWEEN TAIWAN AND HKG/OKA/MNL

IS PAID.

PASSENGER WILL BE PUT ON STANDBY LIST IF HE/SHE

CHOOSES NOT TO PAY THE HIGHER CLASS SURCHARGE

MENTIONED HEREWITH.

THIS SURCHARGE IS SUBJECT TO CHILD DISCOUNT.

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ABOVE PRACTICE COULD BE PERMITTED ONLY AFTER THE

PASSENGER ARRIVES AT THE IATA CONFERENCE AREA

OTHER THAN THAT HE/SHE ORIGINATES FROM.

NOTE -

1. TICKETS ORIGINALLY ISSUED IN A RBD LOWER

THAN Y/B/M CANNOT BE REBOOKED TO RBD

Y/B/M.

2. THE ABOVE RBD UPGRADE PRACTICE CANNOT BE

APPLIED TO TICKETS ORIGINALLY ISSUED IN

X CLASS.

Penalties

CANCELLATIONS

CHARGE CAD 70.00 FOR LOST TICKET.

NOTE -

THE SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED PER PASSENGER/

DOCUMENT FOR HANDLING SUCH REQUEST FOR REFUND OR

REPLACEMENT OF A LOST TICKET AND THIS

SERVICE CHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT AND

CANNOT BE REFUNDED.

THESE PROVISIONS SHALL ALSO APPLY TO LOST

MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES ORDER/DEPOSIT RECEIPTS AND

EXCESS BAGGAGE TICKETS.

Endorsements

THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF/BUDGET - IN

THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

Discounts

ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT

OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE

FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

NEWLY BORN INFANTS WITHIN 14 DAYS OF BIRTH SHALL

NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE UNDER ANY

CIRCUMSTANCES.

OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT

OF THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

NEWLY BORN INFANTS WITHIN 14 DAYS OF BIRTH SHALL

NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE UNDER ANY

CIRCUMSTANCES.

OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 11 - NO DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

INFANTS UNDER 3 MONTHS OF AGE WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED

FOR UNACCOMPANIED TRAVEL.

UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN AND INFANTS AGED BETWEEN

3 MONTHS AND 5 YEARS WILL BE CHARGED THE FULL

ADULT FARE PLUS ONE ONE WAY NORMAL FARE AS ESCORT

SERVICE CHARGE FROM POINT OF ENPLANEMENT TO POINT

OF DISEMBARKATION AND THEY WILL BE ASSIGNED A CI

DESIGNATED ATTENDANT ON FLIGHT.

Discounts

ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT

OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE

FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

NEWLY BORN INFANTS WITHIN 14 DAYS OF BIRTH SHALL

NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE UNDER ANY

CIRCUMSTANCES.

OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT

OF THE FARE.

TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

NEWLY BORN INFANTS WITHIN 14 DAYS OF BIRTH SHALL

NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE UNDER ANY

CIRCUMSTANCES.

OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - NO DISCOUNT.

NOTE -

INFANTS UNDER 3 MONTHS OF AGE WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED

FOR UNACCOMPANIED TRAVEL.

UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN AND INFANTS AGED BETWEEN

3 MONTHS AND 5 YEARS WILL BE CHARGED THE FULL

ADULT FARE PLUS ONE ONE WAY NORMAL FARE AS ESCORT

SERVICE CHARGE FROM POINT OF ENPLANEMENT TO POINT

OF DISEMBARKATION AND THEY WILL BE ASSIGNED A CI

DESIGNATED ATTENDANT ON FLIGHT.

Other Discounts

NOTE -

DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE

AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

Application

NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC ADVANCE PURCHASE FARES

APPLICATION

AREA

THESE FARES APPLY

FROM AREA 3 TO CANADA.

CLASS OF SERVICE

THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.

TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION

THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.

FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE

ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.

CAPACITY LIMITATIONS

THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED

ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH

FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.

THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE

AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE

CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT

Thanks for the input, am now following up.

Eva priced at 46k THB (return 6 month open)

China Airline 55k THB (assuming Andy's statement no charge for changes)

One way, multiple airlines (on Kayak) 35k THB

Flight time and layover are considerations as is additional domestic flights (Phuket / Bangkok)

Looks like if I spend an inordinate amount of time researching this I might save a couple of hundred bucks after all is said and done. Are travel agents useful in this regard?

EVA air with the dates as given above 48,395.

As an open return 48,395 (valid for 6 months)

See the OP has got prices.....

Edited May 31, 201115 yr by beano2274

Thanks for the input, am now following up.

Eva priced at 46k THB (return 6 month open)

China Airline 55k THB (assuming Andy's statement no charge for changes)

One way, multiple airlines (on Kayak) 35k THB

Flight time and layover are considerations as is additional domestic flights (Phuket / Bangkok)

Looks like if I spend an inordinate amount of time researching this I might save a couple of hundred bucks after all is said and done. Are travel agents useful in this regard?

If you use the ITA software you can get the best prices and take the Codes to the agents to try and get that price, I prefer direct with the airlines, as sometimes the prices are cheaper than advertised.

So far some good advice from those who know in the posts above.

I will probably be laughed at for what I'm about to say...but I'm to old to care all that much anyhow.

My question is...why, when you don't knowyour exact return date...do you want to book a return ticket, especially on-line NOW?

About 6 months ago I went from Greece, where I was then working, back to Boston, Massachusets to stay with my brother for about 2 months...i wasn't sure how long it would be. I booked a one way ticket from Greece to Boston. When I got to where my brother now lives, near Boston, it took me a little over a month to get the business I had to do completed. So I went to a travel agent...I didn't book a ticket on-line I went to a local travel agent in Boston. I expected to pay more for two one-way tickets, but the fact that I didn't know how long I had to be in the U.S. meant I didn't want to book a ticket fr the whole trip until I knew when I would be leaving.

Anyhow, I talked to the travel agent, she made some phone calls, and managed to find me a very good price on an ticket from Boston through Souel, Korea and on to Bangkok. To my surprise the total price for both tickets that year...the one from Greece to Boston and the later one from Boston to Bangkok was actually LESS than if I had booked the whole trip on-line. Not by much, but still less.

So my point is; while on-line booking is undoubtedly convienent, don't overlook the travel agemts in Canada as a source of your ticket back. You could be presently surprised. And if the price is higher than you want from the travel agent you can still ook that return ticket on-line in Canada.

Remember the travel agents make a commision on the tickets they sell, and if they know you are lookng for the best price, they will take the time to search around for the flight you want, just to get that comission. And for you it saves you the trouble of deciding when you have to return when you aren't really sure how long you have to stay.

Also, on those "cheap price tickets" you DO book on-line...read carefully the amount of time they are valid. Some of those bargain tickets MUST be used before (number here) days after they are booked. If you try to change or extend the period they are valid, you will have to pay for that service. For that reason, sometimes those heavily discounted tickets are NOT really a bargain.

Edited May 31, 201115 yr by IMA_FARANG

If you use the ITA software you can get the best prices and take the Codes to the agents to try and get that price, I prefer direct with the airlines, as sometimes the prices are cheaper than advertised.

Beano, what is "ITA software"? Codes? Starting to feel a bit lost here...maybe not such a good idea to try and go somewhere else.

Thanks to all for contributing, much appreciated.

If you use the ITA software you can get the best prices and take the Codes to the agents to try and get that price, I prefer direct with the airlines, as sometimes the prices are cheaper than advertised.

Beano, what is "ITA software"? Codes? Starting to feel a bit lost here...maybe not such a good idea to try and go somewhere else.

Thanks to all for contributing, much appreciated.

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From my previous post:

Relevant "code" (actually fare basis) is WLAP, a "W" fare.

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Fare 1: Carrier CI WLAP BKK to YVR (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code W

Covers BKK-TPE (Coach), TPE-YVR (Coach)

19,230.00

Fare 2: Carrier CI WLAP YVR to BKK (rules)

Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code W

Covers YVR-TPE (Coach), TPE-BKK (Coach)

19,230.00

CI YQ surcharge (YQ) 4,510.00

CI YQ surcharge (YQ) 380.00

Thailand Passenger Service Charge (TS) 700.00

Vancouver Airport Improvement Fee (SQ) 470.00

Canadian Harmonized Sales Tax (BC) (RC) 60.00

Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA) 815.00

Subtotal per passenger 45,395.00

Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES 45,395.00

FWIW, there is a T fare on the CI website for 43,875 all-in. (I used August 10, 2011 depart, and January 18, 2012 for a return, BKK-YVR-BKK.)

Economy fare buckets run Y//M/H/Q/V/W/S/K/L/T from most expensive/least restrictive (Y) to least expensive/most restrictive (T).

Just make sure to review the fare rules to make sure they allow changes, like the W fare.

Partial fare rules...

1. Itinerary Bangkok to Vancouver / Round Trip

2. Adult Fare THB 36000

Child Fare THB 27000

3. Sale Period 2011-01-01 ~ 2011-06-30

4. Minimum Passengers 1

5. Advance Purchase 0 Day/s

6. Outbound Travel Period 2011-06-25 ~ 2011-09-15 23:59:00

7. Applicable Flights/Time for Outbound Travel

8. Days of Week for Outbound Travel Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday

9. Applicable Flights/Time for Inbound Travel

10. Days of Week for Inbound Travel Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday

11. Minimum Stay 0 Day/s

12. Maximum Stay 6 Month/s

13. Booking Departure Date 2011-08-10

14. Travel Completion Date 2012-02-10

15. Cabin Class Economy

16. Booking class T

17. Mileage Accruable Miles Query

18. Ticket Endorsement Not Permitted

19. Rerouting Not Permitted

20. Ticket Refund Permitted, Refund Penalty(Each Passenger)：THB 3000

21. Additional Conditions No

Please note :

1.Before redeeming upgrade awards, please check Dynasty Flyer-Redeem Miles firstly.

2.Any change or cancellation to your booking are subject to the fare rules and conditions of

your ticket, and service charges applied to fare types will be collected.

3.Applying "Mileage upgrading" or "Upgrade to Business Class" service should be subject

to the fare types of your ticket, please check "Dynasty Flyer Program " or contact "Service

Hotline" for further information.

4.Additional conditions please also refer to item 21 if any.

That BR (Eva) 6 month open fare, while 3,000 baht more, seems like the easiest, best, most straight-forward; no open fare-bucket requirement. Flights/connections look a tad better. Maybe now down to mileage accrual, seat, IFE? Some rave about BR metal; I've never flown them. They do have better/more code-shares/marketing partners than CI, which may help re: HKT, some city in Canada TBD?

My B.C.Canadian friends fly to an American Airport,to get a cheaper flight.Thats all i know.Have done so for ages.

Thanks so much to all who have contributed here.

I am still looking at options but am now leaning to a one-way ticket due to the variables affecting my return.

cheers,