davejonesbkk Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I've been looking at a few of these recently and was wondering how important and recognised they are within the IT industry? Does anyone here on TV have one of these? Id love to know more about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devdrinker Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Pointless. (Me: MCSE ~2001). Generally laughed at. No longer appears on CV. Waste on 8/9 exams at 100 quid a pop (I just registered for exams instead and bought the boxset plus another 2 books for SQL Svr 2000 track (elective parts). Joe Bloggs MCSE - Its more of a joke than people that sign their name as Joe Bloggs (BSc). It might just qualify you for entry position on a minimal wage doing 'please reboot', great when you've spent all that time reading up on theory of distributed domains etc.. Get in the industry first and then figure out what will enhance your value rather than the other way round.. Figure out what you are interested in. Most people that go into a combined microsoft cert have choices that will be relevant to their line of employment. Edited June 15, 2011 by devdrinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 What a MS Cert does is give you a chance to get in the door. If you can prove the skills you may get the job. It will if done properly help you to do the job better but if done by book and dump useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devdrinker Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 You should always have a question before seeking an answer. Learning about configuring and intimidate details of domain federation, quirks of windows 2008, network access protection, IPSec, SQL server tombstoning, [insert fancy phrase of choice] doesnt make sense to me (done by the book or not) if no part in your employment, yet this is the path most MS cert seem to go. At best do a one MCP desktop exam as this will always be useful, but dont do any more certs (MCP is any exam on path to MCST, MCSE, MCAD etc..) until you are opportunity to exploit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuket Mike Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Pointless. (Me: MCSE ~2001). Generally laughed at. No longer appears on CV. Waste on 8/9 exams at 100 quid a pop (I just registered for exams instead and bought the boxset plus another 2 books for SQL Svr 2000 track (elective parts). Joe Bloggs MCSE - Its more of a joke than people that sign their name as Joe Bloggs (BSc). It might just qualify you for entry position on a minimal wage doing 'please reboot', great when you've spent all that time reading up on theory of distributed domains etc.. Get in the industry first and then figure out what will enhance your value rather than the other way round.. Figure out what you are interested in. Most people that go into a combined microsoft cert have choices that will be relevant to their line of employment. I have to agree with devdrinker and I'm also MSCE (upto 2002) also Novell Certified. They were useful when the programmme first started but now there are so many Microsoft Certified people the certification is worse than useless. I was lucky in that the company I worked for paid for the training and exams. The 1 week courses for each module were very useful, especially meeting other people in the industry, also being able to discuss real life issues in the classroom. I have to say those people who used to sign their email Joe Bloggs MCSE made me laugh, and there were a lot of them. Edited June 15, 2011 by phuket Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosompoi Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I am MCSE and Novell CNE, they are completely useless! So many people have Microsoft certs that can not tie their shoes. I have 25 years of IT and management experience these certs have had zero benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Ah yes, Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert. Definitely need more of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 For those who replied negative... Do you mean that only Microsoft certifications are useless or ALL certifications are useless Think about Cisco, Citrix, Red Hat, Linux, IBM, Hp etc etc - are these all 100% completely useless? Yes you also need hands-on-experience but you also need theory how thinks work or should work. Just curious... Cloggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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