Democrat Asking EC To Disqualify Two Pheu Thai MPs

[Lite Beer]

Democrat asking EC to disqualify two Pheu Thai MPs

BANGKOK, 10 July 2011 (NNT)-The Democrat Party will file a petition with the Election Commission of Thailand (EC) to disqualify two Pheu Party List MP candidates for violating electoral law.

Democrat Deputy Spokesperson Mr. Boonyod Sukthinthai led a legal team to the EC office earlier this afternoon to file a complaint against two Pheu MP candidates. According to the report, Mr. Wim Roongwattanajinda, has been accused of buying votes in his email to the media. The message was reportedly saying that he would give them the money and host a dinner in exchange for their positive news coverage.

Mr. Wim admitted that the email was his although the message had been exaggerated. The Democrat has, therefore, questioned the transparency of the election results which have earned two Pheu Thai: Mr. Korkeaw Pikulthong and Mr. Pichit Cheunban, MP profiles.

Democrat Deputy Spokesperson Mr. Boonyod further expressed his doubts over the qualification of Mr. Pichit as a political member of Pheu Thai given that he had been charged with corruption in the past.

By law, a perpetrator is only able to enter politics at least 5 years after he/she has completed his term of punishment. Mr. Boonrod purported that Mr. Pichit intended to break the law by contending in the election.

Mr. Pichit could face 1-10 years of jail term and a fine of 20,000-200,000 THB in which he could finally be stripped off of his political profile. Mr. Boonrod added that his team will prove to the public that Pheu Thai had been lying to voters about the practicality their policies.

He exemplified his suspicions by citing the cancellation of the oil fund and the reconciliation plan as dubious. He accused Pheu Thai of trying to intervene the work of the National Reconciliation Commission and that Mr. Thaksin Shinnawatra continued to be active in Thai politics following the report saying that one Pheu Thai MP was seeing the exiled leader to ask for a political post in the new government.

-- NNT 2011-07-10

[chuang]

They should ask the EC to ban all PTP candidates for poking their index fingers in the air...

For receiving garlands during campaigning...ets etc the lists go on and on and on.....

[Who, me ?]

And to ban you for your post!

[mrtoad]

They should ask the EC to ban all PTP candidates for poking their index fingers in the air...

For receiving garlands during campaigning...ets etc the lists go on and on and on.....

That would be an excellent idea. Maybe you could put it to The EC

[whybother]

They should ask the EC to ban all PTP candidates for poking their index fingers in the air...

For receiving garlands during campaigning...ets etc the lists go on and on and on.....

If you think that they broke electoral law by doing that, then you're more than welcome to lodge a complaint to the EC.

But, from what I understand, it's not breaking electoral law to do that.

Edited July 10, 2011 by whybother

[Ricardo]

Interesting, and perhaps not very good news for PTP-executives, if Mr Wim really does now admit that the email was genuine ?

Pre-election there was speculation on TV, that it might have been a smear made-up to damage the PTP, but now it would appear that PTP actually might have been offering bribes to influence journalists ! Yay for Red Democracy & Freedom of the Press !

[473geo]

Any sensible person can now see why Abhisit quickly relinquished his position. Who would wish to be involved in this type of political mud pool being stirred up by the democrats.

Fair play and congratulations to Abhisit for stepping away

[rubl]

Any sensible person can now see why Abhisit quickly relinquished his position. Who would wish to be involved in this type of political mud pool being stirred up by the democrats.

Fair play and congratulations to Abhisit for stepping away

So in your opinion the Dem's MP shouldn't have bothered to ask the EC to investigate, but should simply have accepted what was done?

[473geo]

Any sensible person can now see why Abhisit quickly relinquished his position. Who would wish to be involved in this type of political mud pool being stirred up by the democrats.

Fair play and congratulations to Abhisit for stepping away

So in your opinion the Dem's MP shouldn't have bothered to ask the EC to investigate, but should simply have accepted what was done?

Rubl during the election campaign one of the major comments by the electorate was they were sick of the political infighting. I just cannot see what the democrats hope to gain. They are comming across as sore losers. Yes they are legally correct and of course historically, and moving forward, they have been whiter than white, so they are entitled to bring the complaints. I just hope the end result justifies the effort and upheaval.

[whybother]

Rubl during the election campaign one of the major comments by the electorate was they were sick of the political infighting. I just cannot see what the democrats hope to gain. They are comming across as sore losers. Yes they are legally correct and of course historically, and moving forward, they have been whiter than white, so they are entitled to bring the complaints. I just hope the end result justifies the effort and upheaval.

If there is a possibility of it ending in upheaval, do you think they should ignore that the PTP might have broken the law? Score 1 for mob rule.

I hope the end result is that there will be less cheating in the next election. I doubt that this will result in a change of government.

[rubl]

Rubl during the election campaign one of the major comments by the electorate was they were sick of the political infighting. I just cannot see what the democrats hope to gain. They are comming across as sore losers. Yes they are legally correct and of course historically, and moving forward, they have been whiter than white, so they are entitled to bring the complaints. I just hope the end result justifies the effort and upheaval.

The electorate was tired of mud-slinging, but not of hearing the truth. So these DEm's are legally correct.

As for whiter than white, in Thailand? Creams which bleach can cause irreparable damage to your skin. Better be a bit colored, especially sitting in a front row sunlit seat

[metisdead]

One post containing false information has been removed as well as the reply to it.

[473geo]

Rubl during the election campaign one of the major comments by the electorate was they were sick of the political infighting. I just cannot see what the democrats hope to gain. They are comming across as sore losers. Yes they are legally correct and of course historically, and moving forward, they have been whiter than white, so they are entitled to bring the complaints. I just hope the end result justifies the effort and upheaval.

If there is a possibility of it ending in upheaval, do you think they should ignore that the PTP might have broken the law? Score 1 for mob rule.

I hope the end result is that there will be less cheating in the next election. I doubt that this will result in a change of government.

Well, what is the end result to be....an irritation to the current government, a sudden urge for cleansing of corruption by the democrats. This is Thailand and I would expect some sort of response if it is possible, from the other parties. Unless with such a major advantage PT just let the Democrats have their moment. Perhaps they will even thank them for rooting out the errant MP's.

[rubl]

Well, what is the end result to be....an irritation to the current government, a sudden urge for cleansing of corruption by the democrats. This is Thailand and I would expect some sort of response if it is possible, from the other parties. Unless with such a major advantage PT just let the Democrats have their moment. Perhaps they will even thank them for rooting out the errant MP's.

Ah, happy faces all around. Political parties working together. Reconciliation at last. Democracy at work !

[jdinasia]

Interesting, and perhaps not very good news for PTP-executives, if Mr Wim really does now admit that the email was genuine ?

Pre-election there was speculation on TV, that it might have been a smear made-up to damage the PTP, but now it would appear that PTP actually might have been offering bribes to influence journalists ! Yay for Red Democracy & Freedom of the Press !

So ....

Who are these 2 men?

One is an indicted red-shirt leader Korkaew Pikulthong http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/22/world/asia/22thai.html

and the other is one of Thaksin's lawyers Pichit Cheunban...... http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=thai-court-approves-terrorism-warrant-for-ex-pm-thaksin-2010-05-25

The DSI, tasked with investigating violence surrounding the anti-government demonstrations by the Red Shirts, said on Monday it had submitted evidence "which show Thaksin's coordinating role" in the unrest. Thaksin last week denied he was the "mastermind of the terrorists." His legal adviser, Pichit Cheunban, said Tuesday he would inform the ex-premier of the court move and "discuss what to do next."

[scorecard]

Any sensible person can now see why Abhisit quickly relinquished his position. Who would wish to be involved in this type of political mud pool being stirred up by the democrats.

Fair play and congratulations to Abhisit for stepping away

Some how you seem to have got it backwards, but nice try.

[OzMick]

Interesting, and perhaps not very good news for PTP-executives, if Mr Wim really does now admit that the email was genuine ?

Pre-election there was speculation on TV, that it might have been a smear made-up to damage the PTP, but now it would appear that PTP actually might have been offering bribes to influence journalists ! Yay for Red Democracy & Freedom of the Press !

So ....

Who are these 2 men?

One is an indicted red-shirt leader Korkaew Pikulthong http://www.nytimes.c...sia/22thai.html

and the other is one of Thaksin's lawyers Pichit Cheunban...... http://www.hurriyetd...ksin-2010-05-25

The DSI, tasked with investigating violence surrounding the anti-government demonstrations by the Red Shirts, said on Monday it had submitted evidence "which show Thaksin's coordinating role" in the unrest. Thaksin last week denied he was the "mastermind of the terrorists." His legal adviser, Pichit Cheunban, said Tuesday he would inform the ex-premier of the court move and "discuss what to do next."

Didn't the head of DSI say that the red leaders would be charged with terrorism last Thursday? Did it happen?

[Siam Simon]

Interesting, and perhaps not very good news for PTP-executives, if Mr Wim really does now admit that the email was genuine ?

Pre-election there was speculation on TV, that it might have been a smear made-up to damage the PTP, but now it would appear that PTP actually might have been offering bribes to influence journalists ! Yay for Red Democracy & Freedom of the Press !

So ....

Who are these 2 men?

One is an indicted red-shirt leader Korkaew Pikulthong http://www.nytimes.c...sia/22thai.html

and the other is one of Thaksin's lawyers Pichit Cheunban...... http://www.hurriyetd...ksin-2010-05-25

The DSI, tasked with investigating violence surrounding the anti-government demonstrations by the Red Shirts, said on Monday it had submitted evidence "which show Thaksin's coordinating role" in the unrest. Thaksin last week denied he was the "mastermind of the terrorists." His legal adviser, Pichit Cheunban, said Tuesday he would inform the ex-premier of the court move and "discuss what to do next."

Didn't the head of DSI say that the red leaders would be charged with terrorism last Thursday? Did it happen?

Which leaders? And what were the specific charges for each individual accused? Or was it just a blanket political charge?

[OzMick]

So ....

Who are these 2 men?

One is an indicted red-shirt leader Korkaew Pikulthong http://www.nytimes.c...sia/22thai.html

and the other is one of Thaksin's lawyers Pichit Cheunban...... http://www.hurriyetd...ksin-2010-05-25

The DSI, tasked with investigating violence surrounding the anti-government demonstrations by the Red Shirts, said on Monday it had submitted evidence "which show Thaksin's coordinating role" in the unrest. Thaksin last week denied he was the "mastermind of the terrorists." His legal adviser, Pichit Cheunban, said Tuesday he would inform the ex-premier of the court move and "discuss what to do next."

Didn't the head of DSI say that the red leaders would be charged with terrorism last Thursday? Did it happen?

Which leaders? And what were the specific charges for each individual accused? Or was it just a blanket political charge?

Well doh! That's why I was asking, I don't know. There was a thread several days ago where DSI head Tharit announced that charges would be laid (?), I have heard nothing since.

The thread was actually about him likely to lose his position because/despite of the high standard of performance of duties.

[OzMick]

So ....

Who are these 2 men?

One is an indicted red-shirt leader Korkaew Pikulthong http://www.nytimes.c...sia/22thai.html

and the other is one of Thaksin's lawyers Pichit Cheunban...... http://www.hurriyetd...ksin-2010-05-25

The DSI, tasked with investigating violence surrounding the anti-government demonstrations by the Red Shirts, said on Monday it had submitted evidence "which show Thaksin's coordinating role" in the unrest. Thaksin last week denied he was the "mastermind of the terrorists." His legal adviser, Pichit Cheunban, said Tuesday he would inform the ex-premier of the court move and "discuss what to do next."

Didn't the head of DSI say that the red leaders would be charged with terrorism last Thursday? Did it happen?

Which leaders? And what were the specific charges for each individual accused? Or was it just a blanket political charge?

"Or was it just a blanket political charge?" Have you NOT seen the Arisman video "Bring plenty of bottles, we'll supply the petrol, and we'll burn BKK to the ground." ? Or Jatuporn's stage rants?

If you have, how would you describe charges against these people as "blanket" or "political"? If not, please educate yourself, I get tired of giving history lessons to people who can't/don't/won't remember.

[473geo]

Any sensible person can now see why Abhisit quickly relinquished his position. Who would wish to be involved in this type of political mud pool being stirred up by the democrats.

Fair play and congratulations to Abhisit for stepping away

Some how you seem to have got it backwards, but nice try.

It's the dems slipping further backwards....defined by their desparation, to prove to their backers no doubt, that they really were wanted by the voters, and they did not totally waste the campaign funding, just PT didn't play fair....

[rubl]

Any sensible person can now see why Abhisit quickly relinquished his position. Who would wish to be involved in this type of political mud pool being stirred up by the democrats.

Fair play and congratulations to Abhisit for stepping away

Some how you seem to have got it backwards, but nice try.

It's the dems slipping further backwards....defined by their desparation, to prove to their backers no doubt, that they really were wanted by the voters, and they did not totally waste the campaign funding, just PT didn't play fair....

I fail to see how your post relates to some Dem's MP asking the EC to investigate the possible irregularities around two Pheu Thai candidates. A legal request which will be handled by the EC and may or may not be thrown out. So what?

[binjalin]

we were hoping the election may be the end of all this 'sour grape' - reds won get over it

[jdinasia]

Any sensible person can now see why Abhisit quickly relinquished his position. Who would wish to be involved in this type of political mud pool being stirred up by the democrats.

Fair play and congratulations to Abhisit for stepping away

Some how you seem to have got it backwards, but nice try.

It's the dems slipping further backwards....defined by their desparation, to prove to their backers no doubt, that they really were wanted by the voters, and they did not totally waste the campaign funding, just PT didn't play fair....

I fail to see how your post relates to some Dem's MP asking the EC to investigate the possible irregularities around two Pheu Thai candidates. A legal request which will be handled by the EC and may or may not be thrown out. So what?

The reds seem to have the approval of some people no matter how illegal their behavior is, but a legal request to the proper authority is considered by some red supporters as "out of line" or even harassment. The mind boggles ....

[rubl]

we were hoping the election may be the end of all this 'sour grape' - reds won get over it

A valid, legal request to the EC to investigate possible irregularities is 'sour grapes'?

BTW the Pheu Thai party has won the elections, 265 seats out of 500, clear majority. Although a good dozen UDD leaders were party list candidates and are MP-elects by now, there is still reluctance (by some) to say "PTP = UDD". For sure UDD is not 'the reds', merely one of the larger and more vocal faction