mike100 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Been to this bar 2 or 3 times without a problem, but tonight got caught out on the 500/1,000 baht scam. Check Bin came to 515 baht including a lady drink, and gave them 1,000 to cover it. After waiting a while for my change I was told that I only gave them 500 baht and shouldn’t expect any change. I pointed out that if this was the case, why did they not ask me for the extra 15 baht. They couldn’t explain this and asked me to leave the bar. I left wondering if I could have possibly made a mistake. but outside the lady who check binned me followed me out and said sorry, she knew I gave a 1,000 baht note, but could do nothing about it as she didn’t want to loose her job. Went back a few minutes later and agued with the manager, but basically got F*cked off with a knowing smile, and a few threats. Told him I was going to post this all over the internet, but he said they didn’t care about the internet as they had been established a long while, and nobody would care less. Also I could not really care less about the 485 baht, but hate to be scammed. Care People, give this Soi Two Topical bar a wide birth. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) Is that Beach Rd? (might have been in there - can't recall) I'd report the place to the TAT - other than not much you can do. Edited October 21, 2005 by britmaveric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Maiden Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Gosh thats a shame. I've been going in that bar for a few years now and it's one of my faves. I have never had that problem with that bar I wouldn't argue with the manager though... Saw a guy get a gun put to his head for arguing with the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppa Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 good report mike100, these people need to be shut down , Tonys is another place for that carry on , my son got a right load of abuse from Tonys hench men , and i have heard of quite a few others who have been caught up in this scam , i always change my 1000 s before going to a bar , sad state of affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terdsak_12 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Boycott the place, and hopefully they'll be forced to close down. Why would anyone go to a bar where the manager has been seen threatening punters with guns!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Name them and shame them!! Perhaps we could have a 'Rouge's Gallery'.... ...Whilst some cynics may suggest my Avatar would indicate otherwise. I do believe in the rule of the law. When applied selectively to suit me of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raro Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Mike, Mike....didn't your momma tell you not to rove around such places...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHacker Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 .....nice post Mike, as for the manager showing a gun to a customer as reported in another post just shows what a scum bar it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppa Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Name them and shame them!!Perhaps we could have a 'Rouge's Gallery'.... ...Whilst some cynics may suggest my Avatar would indicate otherwise. I do believe in the rule of the law. When applied selectively to suit me of course. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> great idea , one big problem how are you going to find the time to list every bar in Pattaya , there is always someone getting riped of in every bar , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 thanks for the post another bar not to do on my list,wont they ever bloody learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Maiden Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Boycott the place, and hopefully they'll be forced to close down. Why would anyone go to a bar where the manager has been seen threatening punters with guns!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Been friends with the manager for years he always looks out for me, he wouldn't ever harm me. His other bar got closed down but he opened a new one, he'll only keep opening new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Sounds like a scum bag , is he Thai or Farang ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Maiden Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Sounds like a scum bag , is he Thai or Farang ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thai. I've only ever had that problem with the change once but as soon as I told him he sorted it out and went mad at the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiflyer1 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) I've only ever had that problem with the change once but as soon as I told him he sorted it out and went mad at the staff. That hardly bodes well for the rest of us then if youve been friends with the boss for years and they try it on with you........ Edit.....wonder why his other bar got closed down?...... Edited October 21, 2005 by thaiflyer1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Sounds like a scum bag , is he Thai or Farang ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thai. I've only ever had that problem with the change once but as soon as I told him he sorted it out and went mad at the staff. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That reminds me of an incident at the Penthouse Hotel a good few years ago. The Cashier was up to her old tricks of short-changing by twenty baht. On the way to golf I told Ian (RIP mate), one of the owners, about it. His reaction was odd to say the least. His words were something along the lines of: "Oh Christ, is she at it again? Anyway, I told her never to try it on with you as I knew you would spot it and make a fuss!" I suppose I should have felt flattered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Care People, give this Soi Two Topical bar a wide birth. Wide birth from me. I hate this type of sh1t Perhaps we could have a 'Rouge's Gallery'.... I agree. We don't need to list every bar, just the one's who try to fleece customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarpy Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Don't know the guy but could have told you he was Thai just from the description of what happened. Live for the day, get money today, forget tomorrow, falang always wrong attitude. When paying with a 1,000 note I always show it to the cashier and say '1,000 yes, 1,000 sure'. Had it happened to me I would have whipped out the mobile and called the TP. I hear if they are called to a bar its a minimum 5,000 baht from the bar owner for them to go away again whatever happened. Will make a point when passing by to say to the greeters 'I no drink her. Boss steal from customer'. Won't make any difference but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I no drink her. Boss steal from customer'. Won't make any difference but still. And add, that you saw it on the internet. Mike told him he "was going to post this all over the internet, but he said they didn’t care about the internet as they had been established a long while, and nobody would care less". It might teach him a lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Tiger Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 yarpy spot on mate i do that everytime make sure they know you know what your handing over !!! is this bar nr Atlantis bar ? this is common in walking street especially hot tuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Care People, give this Soi Two Topical bar a wide birth. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wide birth from me. I hate this type of sh1t Perhaps we could have a 'Rouge's Gallery'.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. We don't need to list every bar, just the one's who try to fleece customers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only problem is there are always some people who will abuse this. Maybe they have a grudge against a certain owner/establishment, it's good to know where we should avoid, but how do we make sure everyone is telling the truth. Also often it's one person up to tricks, not the whole bar, should a business be subjected to having it's name dirtied if it's just one rouge employee, that maybe the business owner doesn't know about. You may often find farang business owners being taken advantage of by the staff, should they be subjected to even more punishment. There's a few places i'd like to name and shame though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Exact location - perhaps one of our intrepid members can go take a photo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarpy Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 The OP has spread this all over the internet and has got a surprisingly big response. It looks like we could really hit this guys business hard. So if I was the OP I'd keep my head down for a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 The OP has spread this all over the internet and has got a surprisingly big response. How do you mean Yarpy? Just on TV or on other internet sites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Tony Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Many other forums, yahoo, ofbboard, etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raro Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 I've been with the OP to Soi 2 yesterday, different bars though. Both still alive. The worst thing is getting intimidated because that bar owner is so dangerous/rich/well connected/whatever. You really think he would go to that other bar if he spots you there to knock you over? Much too much hassle! I think it's great having people around with some moral courage making scammers public - because this is the only way to stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHacker Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 ...it would do no harm to nake an official complaint, then its on record, just in case the guy gets a bit clever with his hands at a later day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Yes - notify the tourist police and TAT. However probably too late at this stage - been better if you done it immediately and caused the bar owner some hassles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya_Fox Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 ...not really the cleverest thing to do...as the bossman will get access to your address from his mates in brown.. Better to vote with your feet and tell your friends to give this bar a wide birth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 ...not really the cleverest thing to do...as the bossman will get access to your address from his mates in brown.. Better to vote with your feet and tell your friends to give this bar a wide birth.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just means owner will pay more - no worries!!! MIBS like this sort of thing - fills their pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Boycott the place, and hopefully they'll be forced to close down. Why would anyone go to a bar where the manager has been seen threatening punters with guns!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Been friends with the manager for years he always looks out for me, he wouldn't ever harm me. His other bar got closed down but he opened a new one, he'll only keep opening new ones. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I admire your trust and confidence....... Last year I was in a bar that I really do trust, but nevertheless when it came to Check Bin time I, my bill was about 400 baht, I got a 1000 baht note out of my wallet and paid only to receive change for 500. Now I only ever keep 1000 notes in my wallet as I used to occasionally mistake them for 20s, so when the wrong change came I KNEW beyond doubt that I was in the right. I created...singing louder than the acts on stage and demanding my money...there is no way I was going to go without my money...I knew the owner vaguely but was told he wasn't in the country.....eventually I was paid the extra 500 baht (I have a powerful voice) not without the cashier taking a swipe at me but I got my money. About 3 days later I told my friend about the incident...and he reminded me that we had been for a meal before I went to the bar and he'd put the money he owed me in my wallet – a 500 baht note! I went back the next day and apologized and gave them their money back….I still drink there today, but they are very careful with change! It’s amazing how sure you can be after a beer or two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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