Thai Red Shirts Warn Election Commission Of Backlash

[webfact]

Red shirts warn EC of backlash

By The Nation

Election watchdog fails to endorse group's leaders who won House seats

The red-shirt leadership yesterday warned the Election Commission of an angry backlash from the movement over its decision not to endorse any of its leaders who won places in the House of Representatives in the recent general election.

Thida Thawornseth, chairwoman of the movement, said the red shirts were "worried and dissatisfied" over the EC's decision.

She called on the red shirts to "keep your batteries full and get ready for action in any situation".

Thida described the EC's move as an attempt by the "ruling elite" to prevent the country emerging from its political crisis.

"I warn the network of the ammartayathippatai system not to shut down the country's exit [from the political crisis]. They should allow people to build up the country with their hands. Don't let people fall into the trap of disaster again," she said, using the movement's collective term for the elite groups that control the country.

"If the people's interest is destroyed again, [the red-shirt movement] is ready to protect it," she added.

Red-shirt leader Korkaew Pikulthong, one of the Pheu Thai Party's candidates failing to get EC endorsement, called on the agency to explain why it had not endorsed the poll victory of the party's top candidate, Yingluck Shinawatra, and 10 other party candidates.

"I am worried that people may feel that the EC is trying to drag its feet about endorsing the MPs-elect. Red-shirt people may take to the streets and protest," he said.

He added that their supporters had "much concern" about the red-shirt leaders being elected as party-list MPs but not being endorsed by the election agency.

On Tuesday, while endorsing 358 MPs-elect after finding no complaints of electoral fraud, the EC resolved not to endorse the remaining 142 from many political parties, under both the party-list and constituency systems.

Included in the 142 are the red-shirt leaders among Pheu Thai's party-list candidates; Yingluck, who is expected to become the country's first female prime minister; and Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, who is the outgoing PM.

Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit yesterday called on the EC to review its decision not to endorse the party's red-shirt candidates, pointing out that the agency had before the poll decided that all the party's 125 party-list candidates were qualified to contest the election.

He also said he suspected the complaint of electoral fraud against Yingluck was aimed at delaying the formation of a Pheu Thai-led government.

Yingluck is accused of allowing banned politician Thaksin Shinawatra, who is her brother, to influence her party's election campaigning, while Abhisit is accused of abusing government policies in his party's poll campaign, according to election officials.

At the Pheu Thai headquarters, Yingluck yesterday said she was hopeful the EC would ensure justice for her and the party.

"I don't know exactly the nature of the complaint against me, but I am sure that I can explain [matters]," she said.

Abhisit yesterday said he was not worried about the EC's decision not to endorse him, adding that he was ready to offer an explanation.

He said he did not know the details of the complaints against him. "But I am sure that I did not break any law."

The outgoing prime minister, commenting on the warning by red-shirt leaders of a backlash against the EC, said: "Politicians should no longer use their supporters to pressure for what they want. Otherwise, problems will [continue to] exist in this country. The EC has to be firm about its judgement."

Meanwhile, veteran politician Banharn Silapa-archa called on the election watchdog to endorse most of the MPs-elect to allow the new House of Representatives to convene its first session within 30 days. The House could then elect the new prime minister so that a new government could be formed.

He said the EC could later petition with the court for disqualification of any MPs found afterwards to have won their seats dishonestly.

Under the Constitution, a new House of Representatives cannot convene its first session unless at least 95 per cent of the MPs-elect, or 475 members, are officially endorsed.

Banharn is the chief adviser to the Chart Thai Pattana Party, a partner in the current Democrat-led coalition. The party will become a key partner in a Pheu Thai-led coalition.

-- The Nation 2011-07-14

[Who, me ?]

here we go again! Threats, threats, threats......

[whybother]

Yay for Red Democracy.

[KKvampire]

what a surprise , UDD Red terrorists threatening again, The only ones who match their foulness are the morons who vote for them. Jatuporn gets approved as Mp and it will be another sewer depth for the Thai political and legal process.

[RogueExpat]

Typical Red bullies.

Can't get your own way, threaten mob violence and anarchy, and when the ashes settle claim it wasn't them.

Thumbsdown for Red politics and methods from me.

[Mosha]

Red shirt apologists will be along shortly.

[khaowong1]

I'm pretty much in favor of Orange Shirts myself.

[Deeral]

Thailand's political system - regardless of who is in power - is marred by the endless legal bickering that is its hallmark. It is one of several facets of Thai politics that need to be addressed.

The judiciary and other democratic institutions need to be untangled from political bias and influence in order to prevent them impeding the progress of true democratic processes.

[hammered]

The EC will need top have clear irrefutable evidence of offences by the particular candidate in question if they start red carding. Just look at Tulsathit's description of the questioning of the red shirt leaders qualifications to run as mind boggling and he is meant to be on the other side.

Sodsri of the EC made an interesting prediction before the election.

[hammered]

Thailand's political system - regardless of who is in power - is marred by the endless legal bickering that is its hallmark. It is one of several facets of Thai politics that need to be addressed.

The judiciary and other democratic institutions need to be untangled from political bias and influence in order to prevent them impeding the progress of true democratic processes.

And to stop them becoming undermined in the eyes of huge swathes of the population. The judiciary is needed in a democracy, but for it to function it needs to be seen as being above politics

[Crushdepth]

It's only democracy if my side wins.

[Samuian]

Intimidation of the Election Commission "go, go, go" for your sponsors selfish reasons and set the country ablaze another time!

[webfact]

Natthawut warns EC of 'big trouble' if it fails to endorse MPs-elect

Pheu Thai MP-elect and red-shirt leader Natthawut Saikua has warned the Election Commission could face a serious trouble if it fails to endorse all Pheu Thai MPs.

He wrote on his Facebook page late Wednesday night that if the EC fails to endorse the MPs within the deadline, "I can guarantee there will be a big trouble".

He said the "invisible hands" would become visible and would criticized by the International Community.

He said he would alert the world and Thais about the efforts to prevent the Pheu Thai from setting up the new government if the EC would not endorse all the MPs.

The EC has suspended the endorsement of red-shirt leaders as Pheu Thai MPs pending further consideration of complaints against them.

-- The Nation 2011-07-14

[whybother]

Natthawut warns EC of 'big trouble' if it fails to endorse MPs-elect

Once again ...

Yay for Red Democracy.

[somtampet]

Thailand's political system - regardless of who is in power - is marred by the endless legal bickering that is its hallmark. It is one of several facets of Thai politics that need to be addressed.

The judiciary and other democratic institutions need to be untangled from political bias and influence in order to prevent them impeding the progress of true democratic processes.

Very similar to the thai premier league,have a decsion against them and they act like little babies,so many dummy tits on the pitch,thats why i dont go to watch Pattaya Utd or Chonburi,i see enough watching Arsenal

[Crushdepth]

Natthawut warns EC of 'big trouble' if it fails to endorse MPs-elect

Pheu Thai MP-elect and red-shirt leader Natthawut Saikua has warned the Election Commission could face a serious trouble if it fails to endorse all Pheu Thai MPs.

He wrote on his Facebook page late Wednesday night that if the EC fails to endorse the MPs within the deadline, "I can guarantee there will be a big trouble".

He said the "invisible hands" would become visible and would criticized by the International Community.

He said he would alert the world and Thais about the efforts to prevent the Pheu Thai from setting up the new government if the EC would not endorse all the MPs.

The EC has suspended the endorsement of red-shirt leaders as Pheu Thai MPs pending further consideration of complaints against them.

-- The Nation 2011-07-14

The Invisible Hand of Thaksin, perhaps? One thing you can say about Nuttawut: He doesn't give a dam_n for rule of law. Every legal process is just an inconvenience to be circumvented with threats and bullying.

[webfact]

even if you try to conceal inappropriate language your post gets deleted

One post and reply to it deleted

[jonclark]

I blame Nattawuts parents. Obviously as a child he was always given what he wanted, not what he needed. So now as an adult when he doesn't get what he wants he has a tantrum.

Clearly he's shi**ng himself as without the immunity being an MP affords he's looking at potentially spending more time in jail (and will loose more weight).

Let the EC do it's job, put your dummy back in your mouth and shut up.

[animatic]

" She called on the red shirts to

"keep your batteries full and get ready for action in any situation"."

"... Natthawut warns EC of 'big trouble' if it fails to endorse MPs-elect ..."

If these are not a threat for Arisaman Two or worse I don't know what is.

Double standard or intimidation?

We have a MP candidate threatening the Election Commision if the is not endorsed...

It would be likely that alone is sufficient reason to not endorse him.

Edited July 14, 2011 by animatic

[animatic]

I blame Nattawuts parents. Obviously as a child he was always given what he wanted, not what he needed. So now as an adult when he doesn't get what he wants he has a tantrum.

Clearly he's shi**ng himself as without the immunity being an MP affords he's looking at potentially spending more time in jail (and will loose more weight).

Let the EC do it's job, put your dummy back in your mouth and shut up.

I won't venture comment on his parenting, but the last half, surely so,

the trials have started and if he loses his immunity he must know that

there is plenty of evidence of his culpability last year.

Yes, Nuttawat may need Depends before the month is out.

Edited July 14, 2011 by animatic

[metisdead]

Off topic inflammatory baiting posts and replies have been removed.

[NoBrainer]

If I recall correctly Mr. Natthawut is Currently out on Bail.

Is it permissible to Publicly Threaten the Election Commissioners (or anyone else) under the present bail conditions?

This person should be immediately brought before a Judge and explain why he appears to believe that he is permitted to go around threatening people.

Isn't it about time that these people with very serious charges lodged against them are reigned in?

I suggest that we let the Election Commission perform their job without fear or threats.

Mob Rule can not be tolerated.

Natthawut warns EC of 'big trouble' if it fails to endorse MPs-elect

Pheu Thai MP-elect and red-shirt leader Natthawut Saikua has warned the Election Commission could face a serious trouble if it fails to endorse all Pheu Thai MPs.

He wrote on his Facebook page late Wednesday night that if the EC fails to endorse the MPs within the deadline, "I can guarantee there will be a big trouble".

He said the "invisible hands" would become visible and would criticized by the International Community.

He said he would alert the world and Thais about the efforts to prevent the Pheu Thai from setting up the new government if the EC would not endorse all the MPs.

The EC has suspended the endorsement of red-shirt leaders as Pheu Thai MPs pending further consideration of complaints against them.

-- The Nation 2011-07-14

[animatic]

If I recall correctly Mr. Natthawut is Currently out on Bail.

Is it permissible to Publicly Threaten the Election Commissioners (or anyone else) under the present bail conditions?...

Is it permissible to Publicly Threaten the Election Commissioners (or anyone else) under ANY CONDITIONS?

Oh wait,

he is using his own double standards to complain about double standards, so that makes it ok? ... NOT!

Edited July 14, 2011 by animatic

[webfact]

Red-shirt Core Leader: I'm a Qualified MP-elect

A core leader of the Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship is confident that he is qualified for the MP position.

Party-list MP-elect Nattawut Saikuea expressed his opinion after the Election Commission decided to delay the endorsement of Prime Minister-elect Yingluck Shinnawatra, saying that he strongly believes the EC will investigate the case impartially, and that Yingluck will eventually take office as the first female prime minister.

As for a complaint made by the Democrats that Nattawut has charges against him, he insists he is qualified to be an MP, as the court has not yet finalized the case.

Meanwhile, Nattawut said the party is drafting policies for the next government.

He insists that he has not been offered a post in the cabinet yet.

He added that Yingluck is ready to visit the Privy Council President, Genral Prem Tinsulanonda, to discuss solutions to the problems that beset country.

At the same time, the red-shirt movement pledges to support the next government in order to drive the country forward.

-- Tan Network 2011-07-14

[jonclark]

If I recall correctly Mr. Natthawut is Currently out on Bail.

Is it permissible to Publicly Threaten the Election Commissioners (or anyone else) under the present bail conditions?

This person should be immediately brought before a Judge and explain why he appears to believe that he is permitted to go around threatening people.

Isn't it about time that these people with very serious charges lodged against them are reigned in?

I suggest that we let the Election Commission perform their job without fear or threats.

Mob Rule can not be tolerated.

I think in Thailand things work a bit differently. Being out on bail apparently means it is permitted, no encouraged and rewarded to violate your bail conditions and throw threats around how you please. But, who can blame him, no ones enforces the law here, the police are on the whole dittering idiots, the court system is overwhelmed and criminals are allowed to stand as MPs. Who's gonna stop him?

[animatic]

Red-shirt Core Leader: I'm a Qualified MP-elect...

...At the same time, the red-shirt movement pledges to support the next government in order to drive the country forward.

-- Tan Network 2011-07-14

Let's see if that still holds if it isn't Yingluck government with Redshirts in it....

[yoshiwara]

The reds like to warn opponents. One of Thaksin's little preferences for intimidation.

[davidkia]

senior member with 331 i think it was , you have no right to say that the people that voted for the red shirts are ( Morroons ) or words to that effect someone should put this so called sernoir member to rights , they was voted in why don't you eccept the vote of the mojority of the people if you don't agree which you dont as you write the same thing every day then eccept the system tht you make out you stand for !

we all know you dont like any change happy with your lot must be doing ok but there are many that aren't doing ok out of this system so if nothing else they are entiled to a change without such comments ( here we go again threats from the red shirt ) give them a chance but it no good talking to a cloded mind as yourself !

[trigger571]

While I myself have no incline towards the reds (or any other color for that matter), I wonder what would happen in the western world of democracies if a party was legitimately elected 4 times (under international observation the last time - so no one can argue) and for the fourth time the democratically elected government and/or its elected candidates was removed by means of a so called impartial court ruling or a military coupe'. I think that in those countries too there would be very, very big trouble indeed.

[Mosha]

While I myself have no incline towards the reds (or any other color for that matter), I wonder what would happen in the western world of democracies if a party was legitimately elected 4 times (under international observation the last time - so no one can argue) and for the fourth time the democratically elected government and/or its elected candidates was removed by means of a so called impartial court ruling or a military coupe'. I think that in those countries too there would be very, very big trouble indeed.

Exactly, what is wrong with buying a few votes?