Thai Royal Homes

[aneliane]

A Thai Friend of mine mentioned the other day that she was living in a house in a small soi that belong to the King.

She pays very little for which to appear a quite big town-house on several levels, in central Bkk near the MRT.

I was wondering if these houses were for Thais only or do they accommodate farangs too .

I am in a condo right now, and really I can't say I like it.

I mean it's convenient, clean, secured, modern and everything but I feel blocked up.

It has "no soul", no charm, and except if I look at the window, the inside of my actual flat could be anywhere in the world, the walls are white plaster panels, my furniture are identical, as the rest of all the others apartments, it feel like a hospital or an upgraded student residence, and above all you are disconnected from the outside. I do have a balcony but it's only used for laundry.

I have been looking at some sois around my house, and I've seen so many great thai terrace houses. I mean the inside looked a bit gruesome to me (dark and often filthy) but I could clean it out... Also I found the infinities of variations of the 3 level terrace house amazing, plants, balconies, patios, vivid colours, . They are really open to the soi, with a ground floor without front wall, children are playing, old folks are napping, plants are everywhere, they have decent balconies on each upper floor. everything is human size. it has life.

Anybody else feels like me?

I never seen a farang in ones of these. Is that just because they don't like it or because they are just not allowed ?

[Richard4849]

She is talking about properties owned by the Crown Property Bureau. Most have been rented out to the same people for decades.

[beano2274]

I think if you were to get one, they would probably prefer you to be on a Non Immigrant visa not a tourist one.

Never heard of the Royal Homes, sorry.

[lazygourmet]

Crown property housing estates are intended for people who -or their relatives- served the Royal family in he past.

We have a close friend which her husband was one of the Queen's driver. He died in a car accident while on his way to Hua Hin Palace.

Since that tragic event, she is receiving an allowance and a -nearly- free housing off soi Aree, near Dusit.

To the OP: you'd better beg your own government for a social reinsertion incentive...

[meom]

She is talking about properties owned by the Crown Property Bureau. Most have been rented out to the same people for decades.

My understanding is that a lot of the properties are build by the owners on land owned by the CPB and a nominal fee is paid for the land use until CPB decides to put the land to other use (build a shopping mall or something like that) after which people just get evicted because they're basically squatting.

[EvilDrSomkid]

OP, you need to get out of the center of Bangkok. You want to live in a Thai soi with town houses?

There are thousands.

Pull up Google maps of Bangkok and randomly pick an area. Go there and look around. There are townhouses for rent for under 10k a month that can be decent. If you look hard enough, you can find a house with AC, warm water, but probably no kitchen.

We found one today for 6500 per month. The place we have now is very nice, but we need something closer to the office and cheaper (building a house soon)

Speak a little Thai? Have your own transport? Go explore!

PM me if you want some pointers.

[aneliane]

Crown property housing estates are intended for people who -or their relatives- served the Royal family in he past.

We have a close friend which her husband was one of the Queen's driver. He died in a car accident while on his way to Hua Hin Palace.

Since that tragic event, she is receiving an allowance and a -nearly- free housing off soi Aree, near Dusit.

To the OP: you'd better beg your own government for a social reinsertion incentive...

I am surprised because my friend is a red shirt and she criticizes the K at any occasion ...

social reinsertion incentive from my own government ? Ahaha very funny

[seriouseats]

Eh.. You sure you dont mean ratchadamri? bunch of condos and townhouses there, all premium and at a decent price.. land can only be rented for x years there so nobody really owns it.

My gf had a condo there before for 30k per month 2br.. it looked like one that would usualy rent for 80k+

[aneliane]

No I mean Thai houses for 2000 a month.

[aneliane]

OP, you need to get out of the center of Bangkok. You want to live in a Thai soi with town houses?

There are thousands.

Pull up Google maps of Bangkok and randomly pick an area. Go there and look around. There are townhouses for rent for under 10k a month that can be decent. If you look hard enough, you can find a house with AC, warm water, but probably no kitchen.

We found one today for 6500 per month. The place we have now is very nice, but we need something closer to the office and cheaper (building a house soon)

Speak a little Thai? Have your own transport? Go explore!

PM me if you want some pointers.

Sorry no transport and minimal thai

[Richard4849]

You can forget about it.

If someone is renting a townhouse from the CPB for 2,000 baht a month, they have probably had the contract since the 1940's.

The CPB is all about making money -- if they happened to have a new property for rent, it would be at market prices.

[seriouseats]

you can rent a dardboard box under the bts for a few satang..

dam_n cheap farangs... stop using this third world country to make your poor life easier.. there's millions of thais in a worse position than you that need those deals a lot more.

[aneliane]

you can rent a dardboard box under the bts for a few satang..

dam_n cheap farangs... stop using this third world country to make your poor life easier.. there's millions of thais in a worse position than you that need those deals a lot more.

I am not trying to have this deal, I know I can't have it, just something cheap

This month I earned 4100 Thb

Last month a grand 11200 thb

I believe the minimal thai salary is 3000 thb, Im not very far ...but the average thai salary is around 10 000 and I don't have that.

i have a degree, am bilingual and was communication manager of an international group of 63 000 people in France.

Today I was just offered work for translation Eng French translation for 5 days work for 2000 thb, which is 400 thb a day, which is the salary of a Burmese maid in Bangkok

I came to Thailand after made redundant because my company relocated its to Thailand, and in my field in Paris there is 500 applicants for 1 position

Please if you have any suggestion

[seriouseats]

My suggestion was that you should of listened to people who told you all your life that going for a degree in languages is not a good idea. :jap:

Also staying in bangkok for eng-french translation is a really bad idea. French community is very small compared to most third world countries. Relocate to laos,vietnam or somewhere in south america.

[aneliane]

you can rent a dardboard box under the bts for a few satang..

dam_n cheap farangs... stop using this third world country to make your poor life easier.. there's millions of thais in a worse position than you that need those deals a lot more.

I am not trying to have this deal, I now I can't have them, just something cheap

This month I earned 4100 thb

Last month 11000

I know a lot of Thai people who consider me as poor.

I believe the average wage in Thailand is around 15000. I wish I could have that

A maid in Bangkok makes 500 thb a day and that would be a good salary for me.

I was managing the communication of a 63 000 people group and was made redundant when they relocated to Asia, so they can get a thai lady paid 1/3 of my salary to do my job in Thailand instead of Paris.

I cannot get a job in Paris as the ratio for applicant/ jobs has fallen from 50/1 to 500 /1 since the financial crunch. My company AGC (Asahi Glass Corporation) designed among many other DVD player, phones screens, high raise buildings, trains, planes,and the BTS security glass and I can recognize the logo I have been working on for months every time I step on the train.

Today, I was offered a one off job for 1500 for 5 days work to do translation, that's 300thb a day (less than a maid) and that's just for 5 days.

[aneliane]

My suggestion was that you should of listened to people who told you all your life that going for a degree in languages is not a good idea. :jap:

Also staying in bangkok for eng-french translation is a really bad idea. French community is very small compared to most third world countries. Relocate to laos,vietnam or somewhere in south america.

1/ I have a degree in Corporate Communication and Marketing, not in languages. I speak English Japanese and am learning Thai

2/ French community is huge, currently 50 000 French people here in Thailand as we speak, figures given by Immigration

3/ I absolutely don't stay because of translation, I take what I can ...

4/ Laos and Vietnam French teachers need to be formally trained ...

[aneliane]

you can rent a dardboard box under the bts for a few satang..

dam_n cheap farangs... stop using this third world country to make your poor life easier.. there's millions of thais in a worse position than you that need those deals a lot more.

a/ Thailand is NOT a third world country

b/ As if you were paying everything the same you would pay at home. The richer you are here the more you make profit on the very poor people you so-call defend.

[seriouseats]

A place full of dog roaming the streets, humans sleeping in tin foil shacks next to skyscrapper and where the average salary is under 300$ usd a month is a third world country..

a few more advanced places in a huge chunk of third world doesn't make the country developing, thats just social face saving bs that the rest of the world as given to thailand.

10% of Thailand is developing, rest if staying put or going backwards. Once the average thai understands what the line in the middle of the road to separate lanes is for, it might be possible that its starting to become a developing country. Until then, only the middle upper class is developing.

It's hilarious how you get offended at the 3world country bits, you're educated and yet still cant make more than 4100baht in a month.. what kind of country that isn't 3world can provide such failure? In any first world country you could apply at a restaurant/fast food place and survive right off the bat. Here you're left to rot on mama noodles. That's 3world all the way.

[EvilDrSomkid]

OP, you need to get out of the center of Bangkok. You want to live in a Thai soi with town houses?

There are thousands.

Pull up Google maps of Bangkok and randomly pick an area. Go there and look around. There are townhouses for rent for under 10k a month that can be decent. If you look hard enough, you can find a house with AC, warm water, but probably no kitchen.

We found one today for 6500 per month. The place we have now is very nice, but we need something closer to the office and cheaper (building a house soon)

Speak a little Thai? Have your own transport? Go explore!

PM me if you want some pointers.

Sorry no transport and minimal thai

We are moving out of our current place end of August.

Interested?

[aneliane]

A place full of dog roaming the streets, humans sleeping in tin foil shacks next to skyscrapper and where the average salary is under 300$ usd a month is a third world country..

a few more advanced places in a huge chunk of third world doesn't make the country developing, thats just social face saving bs that the rest of the world as given to thailand.

10% of Thailand is developing, rest if staying put or going backwards. Once the average thai understands what the line in the middle of the road to separate lanes is for, it might be possible that its starting to become a developing country. Until then, only the middle upper class is developing.

It's hilarious how you get offended at the 3world country bits, you're educated and yet still cant make more than 4100baht in a month.. what kind of country that isn't 3world can provide such failure? In any first world country you could apply at a restaurant/fast food place and survive right off the bat. Here you're left to rot on mama noodles. That's 3world all the way.

So sorry to disappoint you but "Third World" is a word actually created by The UN back in the 50's (1952 to be exact) to describe unaligned countries to either of the 2 Camps Communist or Capitalism and usually poor countries.

Thailand with its insolent 7,5 % economic growth is definitely capitalist now... (it would be double figure if it was not because of political instability)

France is hardly pushing 0.5%

I am not offended, I am amused

Regarding rich & poor, it is interesting that you mention this because, differences between the rich and the poorest most of so-called developed countries like France or US, have steadily made the differences bigger and bigger each year. In France in 30 years we had the gap between lowest / highest salary from 1/20 to 1/100, rendering our rights and opportunities to get a job (as waiter, fast food place etc) more difficult than ever.

In France when I was working earning above average wage (2000 euros a month) , I could find anything bigger than 8m2 to live in, in Paris.

When I lost my job, in this so-called 'developed country,' I was definitely living on Noodles, I mean by that, that I could not actually afford the veggies in my noodles or fruits to actually keep my body healthy.

So yes I am really better off here, at least I am not putting my health in danger. But buying fruits and vegs from the market is actually better for Thailand's poorest people, than going to these Big C and Makro who just rip off poor farmers, so I don't think I am the one taking anything from them.

[aneliane]

OP, you need to get out of the center of Bangkok. You want to live in a Thai soi with town houses?

There are thousands.

Pull up Google maps of Bangkok and randomly pick an area. Go there and look around. There are townhouses for rent for under 10k a month that can be decent. If you look hard enough, you can find a house with AC, warm water, but probably no kitchen.

We found one today for 6500 per month. The place we have now is very nice, but we need something closer to the office and cheaper (building a house soon)

Speak a little Thai? Have your own transport? Go explore!

PM me if you want some pointers.

Sorry no transport and minimal thai

We are moving out of our current place end of August.

Interested?

Thanks but like I said I don't have my own transport plus I just moved in and would probably lose my deposit, I am looking in advance to move in 5 months.

but thanks anyways

[Patsycat]

I'm confused.

You were made redundant in France when the company you worked for moved to Thailand.

And you moved to Thailand too, did you think you would be able to get your old job back?

I feel for you, I am on the minimum money from Social Services in Switzerland. It is not a happy place to be.

[aneliane]

After many months of unemployment, I actually found a job from in Bangkok from France, so moved to Thailand.

The company was French actually their head office was 5 km away from where I used to live in Paris.

They did not want to employ me in Paris but in Bangkok (3 times cheaper).

Nowadays in Paris, everyone is 'out-sourcing', you only have head offices, doing the sales parts, production is in developing countries, quite a lot in Thailand actually.

Then, once here, things got bad, jealousy, racism, moral harassment ..

I mean all the other employees were jealous of my "fat" salary, -40 000 thb- which they all knew about (because the local manager had not agreed on it, -he wa

[seriouseats]

Why would you stay? Racist are going to be at every possible job you'll look at. Other countries are cheaper and will welcome you.

[aneliane]

Why would you stay? Racist are going to be at every possible job you'll look at. Other countries are cheaper and will welcome you.

Give a job on the Moon I go.

[sbk]

Alright, that does it. You boys are done here if you can't be civil and polite. One extremely rude and trollish post deleted and a few older ones should probably go too.

If you can't drop the baiting, the trolling and the nastiness I will suspend you.

[snowflake]

My suggestion is that you start walking and talking to local people around yourself- buy a thai dictionary and use it - You will learn thai that way too.

If you need to make more money, shape up the wardrobe, walk to a school and offer yourself for the low sum of 20000b pr month (cheap compared to what other people want)... You could also do private tuition and make money on that, 500B pr hour should be ok asuming that you are white and can speak English...

Good luck with the housing, and listen to the one advice to travel around (Bangkok is not the best place to live if you want to live cheaply)....

[dominique355]

Crown property housing estates are intended for people who -or their relatives- served the Royal family in he past.

We have a close friend which her husband was one of the Queen's driver. He died in a car accident while on his way to Hua Hin Palace.

Since that tragic event, she is receiving an allowance and a -nearly- free housing off soi Aree, near Dusit.

To the OP: you'd better beg your own government for a social reinsertion incentive...

I wonder if that is true. I used to rent a condo in a building on Crown Property land (Rajadamri). The condo as owned by an ordinary Thai lady and many farangs live there.

I was told any real estate on Crown Property can only be leased (lease hold only, no free hold).

[aneliane]

My suggestion is that you start walking and talking to local people around yourself- buy a thai dictionary and use it - You will learn thai that way too.

If you need to make more money, shape up the wardrobe, walk to a school and offer yourself for the low sum of 20000b pr month (cheap compared to what other people want)... You could also do private tuition and make money on that, 500B pr hour should be ok asuming that you are white and can speak English...

Good luck with the housing, and listen to the one advice to travel around (Bangkok is not the best place to live if you want to live cheaply)....

Kapunkaaa ! Thai wise I do some self learning and get a bit lingual at the market (no one speak English there) but I guess I could be more talkative ... And my security guards at condo seem to have decided to teach me Thai everything I bring from the market (mango; mamuuue, rambuttan hhokk etc ... That's a start !

As for English I do speak & write English here don't I? ...will definitely give a go at private English tuitions though ... I was just assuming that there were too many natives looking for work already ...

Schools : tried a few before, they didn't like me much (too old? = 42), they were a bit rude, actually ... but it was for 30k jobs, might give a go at 20k

Oh I did not actually choose Bkk to leave here cheaply, I had a job here, came for that reason, I then lost it, long story .... but I am not particularly set on staying here; I'm applying everywhere in Asia!

Cheers again for your advices !

[Richard4849]

Crown property housing estates are intended for people who -or their relatives- served the Royal family in he past.

We have a close friend which her husband was one of the Queen's driver. He died in a car accident while on his way to Hua Hin Palace.

Since that tragic event, she is receiving an allowance and a -nearly- free housing off soi Aree, near Dusit.

To the OP: you'd better beg your own government for a social reinsertion incentive...

I wonder if that is true. I used to rent a condo in a building on Crown Property land (Rajadamri). The condo as owned by an ordinary Thai lady and many farangs live there.

I was told any real estate on Crown Property can only be leased (lease hold only, no free hold).

We're talking about two different things here.

1. Modern condos developed on CPB land that are available to anyone and everyone on lease-hold basis. These are title-deeded properties that are bought and sold just like any other property, except that the land will eventually revert back to the CPB at some point decades in the future.

2. Properties -- mostly shophouses and old wooden houses -- built on CPB land and rented out on a monthly basis directly by the CPB, mostly to people whose families have been renting them for decades. Places like Pratunam, which is largely CPB land, and very old communities in back alleys, largely in very old, traditional neighborhoods. The CPB holds title to the land and just rents the properties out; the renter can be expelled at just about any time the rental agreement is up for renewal.