‘Bar Girls’ Nabbed For Spiking Drinks, Robbing Phuket Tourists

[jehricaholic]

Not just the cocktail of pills but mixing that with a hefty binge of alcohol it's a wonder there wasn't a spate of corpses lying around. Oh silly me, there probably was.. i always forget about the suicide rate and death by 'natural courses' among foreigners in Thailand.

You are correct about the addition of alcohol which would intensify at least the Alprazolam, yet none of the meds are particularly toxic. For instance the LDL50 (the dose at which half of the victims will die) of the Atarax for a 180lb (85kg) is a whopping 3 ounces. That would be several tablespoons. Chorphenimarine LDL50 would take almost an ounce. Alprazolam also has very low toxicity except when used with cocaine and/or methadone whereupon the mix can become fatal. In Florida 99% of deaths involving (in one study) Alprazolam involved cocaine and/or methadone, only 1% of deaths were due to Alprazolam alone.

What I find interesting though is that the Chlorphenimarine is an inhibitor of the enzyme the liver uses to detoxify the Alprazolam (Cytochrome P450 3A4) thus the liver's ability to remove the Alprazolam in impaired. The Chlorphenimarine also inhibits the Cytochrome P450 2D6 enzymatic system, which is how the Atarax is detoxified. Actually I might suspect that the Chlorphenimarine was added specifically to enhance the sedative effects of the other two which would mean that whoever concocted the mix was likely a pharmacist. I hope the police investigate the possibility that there is possibly a licensed pharmicist or healthcare professional behind this.

And yes, the mix would likely have been very bitter. But typically a very strong flavored drink is used to mask it. In America cases of abuse where drinks were spiked often used cinnamon liqueurs. Royphenol aka "roofies" was the quintessential date rape/knockout drug, but the maker added intense bitter substances to it since about 1982 or so. So beware of ladies offering you Goldschlager....

so now we have the full recipe LOL

[TechnikaIII]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

[Beechboy]

Is it impolite to ask where these women kept those phallic shaped bottles ?

On a more serious note, this concoction of drugs, prescription or not, could have had extremely serious consequences for the men they were given to. I would hope the sentence given, would reflect that, but somehow I don't think it will.

I agree, the money or valuables take second place to the dangers these drugs could have caused to the recipients.

Although safe under prescription from a doctor, they would be prescribed only after the doctor had questioned the patients about allergies and many other things eg. prostate problems.

To think that thay were dished out by drug-illiterate bar-girls for gain is frightening.

A mixture of benzodiazapines and sedating anntihistamines, my God.

Where did they find out about these drugs? Where did they get them from. There is something cynically knowledgeable about this.

A bit of pinching happens if you're stupid, but nobody deserves to be put into a lfe-threatening situation for having a few drinks and falling prey to their lure.

They deserve severe punishment and it may well serve as a message to others doing it.

My friend you act like this is something new, it goes on all the time all over Thailand have read many cases in the past. It will not go away the same as the jet ski scam.

Not really. I was always well aware of this bar drugging ploy, and am careful about where I go.

I always asumed that it was maybe a couple of rhohypnol that were popped into the drink.

What is new to me is the mixture of various and possibly contradictory drugs such as these girls used, which could have all sorts of serious medical repercussions.

[lounger]

Quote . "Ms Kemporn explained to the police that the concoction used was a mix of five Alprazolam pills, seven Atarax pills and five Chlorphen-Y pills."

Just incase anyone else out there wants to spike someones drink and rob someone, the nice reporter has told them the EXACT combination, quantity and method used to administer the drug. Good work.

I have no medical training and so know nothing about these medicines but it seems an odd mix of drugs. Surely this mix is what the girls used this time . I would expect the thefts would include medicines and if looking them up on google they appear to be sleep inducing then wak up the dose , in fact mix in the lot........but only the sleep inducing ones!~

I heard a simpler liquid chemical available from a pharmacy is more widely used..........

[bumpkin]

OMG I am shocked doe's this actually happen? I thought these women were lovely ladies that men flock from afar to take as wives. I guess if you want to take one of these women then you deserve everything you get. The reputation of Thai bargirls has been known for decades but fools still go for them and some actually marry them.

Well said ! Caveat emptor.

[bumpkin]

Very unwise of the Gazette to publish the details of the poison, there might be a few week souls out there who can read....

Highly unlikely !

They have never read about the high moral status of bar girls.

[atyclb]

Can we confidently assume that these drugs were sold by a pharmacist without a doctor's prescription? In which case the pharmacist could easily be persuaded by BiB to part with a few thousand baht. Since no mention of a pharmacist being charged as the supplier, this would seem to my cynical mind as the most likely event.

I know of two pharmacies in Pattaya that will supply me with alprazolam without prescription and I take 0.5 mg every evening on retiring. I sleep like a log and suffer no side effects. Feeling very tired one evening I took 1mg, woke up quite normally in the morning, ate a frugal breakfast and then laid down to finish reading a chapter of a book in a 10 minute relax session. I woke up at 1700.

The two doctors that I consult are aware of my practice of taking a small daily dose and have raised no objections or warnings.

You should find the package insert information for Xanax and read with great caution the part about short term use. Benzodiazapine withdrawal is among the very worst of the worst nightmares.

Because a given health care person has no objections or gives it like candy should not be taken as gospel. Google propofol and murray and you will find a US trained, certified heart specialist that administered operating room drugs to M Jackson in his home.

[overhaul38]

I'll be interested to learn what their punishment, if any, will be.

Probably remedial training in how to doctor drinks without getting caught.

[softgeorge]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

+1

I agree who in thier right mind would go near one of these things.

[Beetlejuice]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

This is probably the same attitude as the police. Yet, they have no scruples when it comes to their share of the profits and the revenues these tourists bring in.

It was a miracle that no one died here and as another poster mentioned; would have probably been written off as suicides or more unexplained deaths.

[atyclb]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

+1

I agree who in thier right mind would go near one of these things.

Those "things" look like much the norm at soi 7 beer/fear garden and there is no lack of punters there.

[softgeorge]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

+1

I agree who in thier right mind would go near one of these things.

Those "things" look like much the norm at soi 7 beer/fear garden and there is no lack of punters there.

Punters risking everything to someone who smiles and says your handsome. The fools would actually believe what the girls tell them, then they loose thier possessions, get a dose of something or worst case die. Not worth the risk going near them.

[ginjag]

OMG I am shocked doe's this actually happen? I thought these women were lovely ladies that men flock from afar to take as wives. I guess if you want to take one of these women then you deserve everything you get. The reputation of Thai bargirls has been known for decades but fools still go for them and some actually marry them.

So, what's your point?

Just because half a dozen no-good BG's in Phuket cause headlines after their arrest, does that mean that the other 99% of BG's are all bad.

That's like saying all lawyers are lizards or all female movie stars are drug addicted, sex crazed, bimbos just because Paris & Lindsay make headlines.

Bad generalization.

You sleep with dogs then you will wake up with fleas. Best to stay away from these things but the sex tourists will never learn from other peoples mistakes. If you want to keep your property, health and life stay away from bargirls. These guys deserved what they got and have no one to blame but themselves.

They got what they deserved? With an attitude like that, you are not far from the dogs that you describe. I live near Patpong, I know some of those "dogs"- all nice persons, trying to make a living. Generalizing and stereotyping doesn't help!

You said --those dogs--ref-to previous poster,--you said ALL nice persons-trying to make a living, not all but most of them are dogs, and so are most that frequent the places, but my reply to your suggestion that I may be a ballet lover, because I'm not a beer guzzler or a nightly girl stuffer.

your answer to me post # 58

Well, nothing wrong with ballet or a good read of Shakespear in the evening, but...except for "taking a girl" home, I rather enjoy a good beer- bar from time to time. Nothing wrong with different ideas about entertainment. Just take care and be careful, let some common sense prevail....if you can after several pints.

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Ha Ha, I'm a mad fan of swan lake and as you like it Ha Ha. But do like a nice drink in good company.

Good company is limited at girly bars, my night I'm afraid afraid is not trying to get myself ripped off-pissed-you can keep the sleaze for me, nice lady warmth and affection is more to my liking AND far less trouble. If persons cannot find a reasonable nice working lady, fine -up to them-- go shagging--and help the family out to boot, expensive sex eh???? and unsafe.................If I walk past a bar and see a foreigner half pissed with a couple of girls crawling over him -it it's not a pretty sight, but if he enjoys it and does his thing (or try's ) good for him.

Edited November 2, 2011 by ginjag

[ludditeman]

Punters risking everything to someone who smiles and says your handsome. The fools would actually believe what the girls tell them, then they loose thier possessions, get a dose of something or worst case die. Not worth the risk going near them.

It worked on me all my life.

Smile at me and call me handsome, and I'm ready to rock.

I may be a fool, but I can tell a loose woman, from a possession I might lose.

Only been drugged once, but that was from a total stranger in a night club, who followed me out.

Not much I could have done to stop that, apart from never going out.

Not all bar girls are criminals or dishonest, many have made good wives.

Edited November 2, 2011 by ludditeman

[TechnikaIII]

All six women were charged with illegal possession of prescription drugs.

But not for theft or drugging tourists???

"Theft" or drugging SEX tourists ... That's entirely okay in my books.

[Alboy666]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

Of course you are speaking from experience

[TechnikaIII]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

This is probably the same attitude as the police. Yet, they have no scruples when it comes to their share of the profits and the revenues these tourists bring in.

It was a miracle that no one died here and as another poster mentioned; would have probably been written off as suicides or more unexplained deaths.

"This is probably the same attitude as the police." Yep, and I'm happy with that.

"Yet, they have no scruples when it comes to their share of the profits and the revenues these SEX tourists bring in." Nope, and nor would I.

"... would have probably been written off as suicides or more unexplained deaths. " That's okay too. Result: World population, minus a few sex tourists. Sounds good to me.

[Sturbuc]

Quote . "Ms Kemporn explained to the police that the concoction used was a mix of five Alprazolam pills, seven Atarax pills and five Chlorphen-Y pills."

Just incase anyone else out there wants to spike someones drink and rob someone, the nice reporter has told them the EXACT combination, quantity and method used to administer the drug. Good work.

Well, i couldn't see the amount of water used for the mix - and the size of the potion....

So it seems to be very dangerous to get all these pills on one time.

[Sturbuc]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

This is probably the same attitude as the police. Yet, they have no scruples when it comes to their share of the profits and the revenues these tourists bring in.

It was a miracle that no one died here and as another poster mentioned; would have probably been written off as suicides or more unexplained deaths.

"This is probably the same attitude as the police." Yep, and I'm happy with that.

"Yet, they have no scruples when it comes to their share of the profits and the revenues these SEX tourists bring in." Nope, and nor would I.

"... would have probably been written off as suicides or more unexplained deaths. " That's okay too. Result: World population, minus a few sex tourists. Sounds good to me.

So it looks like it might be ok for you to get poisended food or drinks on somebody elses behalf? Take care!

[crazydrummerpauly]

Well surprised - not by the story or the activities it describes, but by the shock/horror expressed by posters ( newbies excused ). Cos thsi is an oooooooold, oft-repeated (true) story about some bar-girls' dirty-tricks. And YES, of course, there have been fatalities resulting from these stings - inevitably. Copious booze + narcotics ( prescription or otherwise ) = unknown fate. Movie stars ? Rock stars ? Bells ringing ? The fact that quite a percentage of the victims are a bit - well to be polite, 'unfit' to begin with - only adds to the likliehood of the direst outcome. Remember the story - was it a year ago? - of the girls transferring date-rape pills on their French-kissing tongues to inebriated chaps in hotel rooms ? Variations on an old, tragic theme.

[VictorOne]

All six women were charged with illegal possession of prescription drugs.

But not for theft or drugging tourists???

Drugging tourists (successfully) is considered a meritorious achievment. And robbing tourists, well that shows initiative.

[DocN]

All six women were charged with illegal possession of prescription drugs.

But not for theft or drugging tourists???

"Theft" or drugging SEX tourists ... That's entirely okay in my books.

WOT??? Sometimes I don't believe what I am reading! First: not every man who goes into a GoGo Bar is a sex tourist! I know, because I do and I don't have sex with any of the ladies. Second: the deserve to be drugged? What kind of person are you? Look at the age of the ladies in question. 5 of them hardly innocent teenagers who were lured into perverted sex games by depraved strangers.

Drugging "sex" tourists is ok? Why not shoot them?

[DocN]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

This is probably the same attitude as the police. Yet, they have no scruples when it comes to their share of the profits and the revenues these tourists bring in.

It was a miracle that no one died here and as another poster mentioned; would have probably been written off as suicides or more unexplained deaths.

"This is probably the same attitude as the police." Yep, and I'm happy with that.

"Yet, they have no scruples when it comes to their share of the profits and the revenues these SEX tourists bring in." Nope, and nor would I.

"... would have probably been written off as suicides or more unexplained deaths. " That's okay too. Result: World population, minus a few sex tourists. Sounds good to me.

That makes you worse in my eyes than any of them. What ethics and moral do have sir? Hypocrit!

[MAJIC]

Is it impolite to ask where these women kept those phallic shaped bottles ?

On a more serious note, this concoction of drugs, prescription or not, could have had extremely serious consequences for the men they were given to. I would hope the sentence given, would reflect that, but somehow I don't think it will.

Could have been a Murder charge had someone had a heart condition.

[wotaplonker]

Is it impolite to ask where these women kept those phallic shaped bottles ?

On a more serious note, this concoction of drugs, prescription or not, could have had extremely serious consequences for the men they were given to. I would hope the sentence given, would reflect that, but somehow I don't think it will.

absolutely, im on thyroxine and diabetic medication, could have caused a diabetic crisis

Edited November 3, 2011 by metisdead
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[atyclb]

I have no sympathy for sex tourists, whatever it is they lose. If it's money, it's money they don't need anyway.

+1

I agree who in thier right mind would go near one of these things.

Those "things" look like much the norm at soi 7 beer/fear garden and there is no lack of punters there.

Punters risking everything to someone who smiles and says your handsome. The fools would actually believe what the girls tell them, then they loose thier possessions, get a dose of something or worst case die. Not worth the risk going near them.

If the beer garden food doesn't kill you something else may......

Edited November 2, 2011 by atyclb

[cgphuket]

I love the posters who sit in their rented condos, rationing their trust fund or retirement account, avoiding actually learning anything about this country and believe they know what they are are talking about. Ignorant, spoiled silver spoon ex-pat babies are no better than the sex tourists. And none deserve to die...

[maidu]

For 2 of three reasons, this wouldn't affect me;

Though I do dabble with chicks for hire, I neither drink fermented sugar drinks nor visit Phuket, as either of those two things individually can be hazardous to one's health.

[atyclb]

I love the posters who sit in their rented condos, rationing their trust fund or retirement account, avoiding actually learning anything about this country and believe they know what they are are talking about. Ignorant, spoiled silver spoon ex-pat babies are no better than the sex tourists. And none deserve to die...

Not that there aren't ignorant spoiled people like you say, but for many the goal is retirement not "think tank academia" For those familiar with the Thai education system there are masses of ignorance not only about their own history but world history. "Our Brainwashed Upbringing" story by Thai journalist in bkk post

The very reason so many sex related business and even cities (pattaya) exist is related to corruption. Actually a reflection of cheating and corruption at every level of society ( Voranai Vanijaka Thai journalist "Cheating and corruption is the norm at all levels of society, and incompetency is the sum of our failings."2/01/2011 article titled "Bought grades, sold souls an all-access pass through the halls of higher learning" bkk post.

Thai society creates the/allows/aides and abets the entertainment industries (national and international) that attract many from around the world. Assumedly greed is more powerful/important than the tenets of Buddhism.

AS far as the women drugging tourists, they are simply criminals, although had they been young attractive criminals the reactions may have been different. Lets not forget than even in G7 countries there are people that prey on the retired and or the elderly also.

Edited November 3, 2011 by atyclb

[chooka]

Punters risking everything to someone who smiles and says your handsome. The fools would actually believe what the girls tell them, then they loose thier possessions, get a dose of something or worst case die. Not worth the risk going near them.

It worked on me all my life.

Smile at me and call me handsome, and I'm ready to rock.

I may be a fool, but I can tell a loose woman, from a possession I might lose.

Only been drugged once, but that was from a total stranger in a night club, who followed me out.

Not much I could have done to stop that, apart from never going out.

Not all bar girls are criminals or dishonest, many have made good wives.

Not all armed robbers, murderers or sex offenders are criminals. If it is illegal and you are doing it then you are involved in criminal activity.

criminal [ˈkrɪmɪn^əl]n

1. (Law) a person charged with and convicted of crime

2. a person who commits crimes for a living

Prostitution is a crime in Thailand. I guess bargirls fit very snuggly under the banner of Criminal.

If I am buying a used car I avoid ex rentals for very obvious reasons.