Non Immg "O"

[mijan24]

Recently whilst attempting to assist another poster I googled The Royal Thai Consulate in Melbourne and copied the requirements for a Non Immgrant type "O" vNon-Immigrant 'O' Visa Information

General Purpose

Non-Immigrant visa category 'O' is for the applicants wishing to enter the Kingdom of Thailand on a long term holiday, visiting family or friend, or volunteer purposes. An applicant can only apply at maximum 2 entries.

Requirements

1.The passport must be in order and valid for AT LEAST 6 months, beyond the proposed day of entry into Thailand.

2.Two passport size photographs (taken no more than 3 months).

3.A copy of itinerary.

4.Additional document (volunteer purpose only)

4.1 A support letter from an organization.

5.Filled in visa application form. (application form)

6.Visa fee AU$90 per entry (cash, bank cheque, or money order only).

*All visa applications must be submitted within 3 months of travelling to Thailand.*

Family Purpose

Multiple entries Non-Immigrant visa category 'O' can only be granted to the applicants having families or children in Thailand, or applicants having a family member working in Thailand.

Requirements

1.The passport must be in order and valid for AT LEAST 6 months, beyond the proposed day of entry into Thailand.

2.Two passport size photographs (taken no more than 3 months).

3.A copy of itinerary.

4.Additional document

4.1 An applicant having a Thai spouse

■A copy of a marriage certificate.

■A copy of a spouse's Thai passport or ID card.

■A letter of support from a spouse written in Thai, dated and signed. (This is not require if a spouse is present on the application day.)

4.2 An applicant having a Thai child

■A copy of a Thai birth certificate.

■A copy of a child's Thai passport or ID card. (if available)

4.3 An applicant having a family member working in Thailand

■A support letter from a company (in which a family member is being employed).

■A company registration having a capital of minimum 2,000,000 Bahts. (Not require for an Australian company.)

5.Filled in visa application form. (application form)

6.Visa fee AU$225 (cash, bank cheque, or money order only).

*All visa applications must be submitted within 3 months of travelling to Thailand.*

NOTE: For application posted in, registered posted application will only be accepted. Please make sure you have included all of the above requirements plus a self addressing registered envelope to be posted back to the applicant (make sure you do not tear off the slip of the envelope to be posted back to you).

I raise this on a hypothetical basis only it does not apply to anyone currently in the Kingdom.

If someone has a son married to a Thai National and that Thai National lets call her "Ding Dong" was gainfully employed here in Thailand it means that that someone could apply for a Non Immg Type "O" visa on the basis of having family (daughter in law) in Thailand.

If this were the case it may help to eliminate (if it existed that is) the illegal scam of buying retirement visa's for 24/28 thousnd bahts per year.

I raise this to promote discussion or poo-hoo whatever it's really a creative thinking exercise who knows what information and benefits may generate from some lively banter. :jap: Over to forum members I have put on my flameproof suit so come at it all barrels firing.

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[fredob43]

You omitted to say that all copy's must be certified and in English. Thai not acceptable. Well that is what it is in England so I don't think they have different rule's but TIT who know's.

Sorry but not sure what your on about re the Thai national working bit. But on my info letter it state's that the son/daughter must be the the applicant's and they must be Thai. So if you haven't got a wife or S/D that are Thai or your over 50 and can prove you have at least £900 a month coming in form of pension or form work wage's ect your buggered and they wan't to see all the paper work.

[mijan24]

  On 11/12/2011 at 3:13 AM, fredob43 said:

You omitted to say that all copy's must be certified and in English. Thai not acceptable. Well that is what it is in England so I don't think they have different rule's but TIT who know's.

Sorry but not sure what your on about re the Thai national working bit. But on my info letter it state's that the son/daughter must be the the applicant's and they must be Thai. So if you haven't got a wife or S/D that are Thai or your over 50 and can prove you have at least £900 a month coming in form of pension or form work wage's ect your buggered and they wan't to see all the paper work.

Fredob43 the requirements for the Non Immg Visa is a direct copy from the Royal Thai Consulates in Sydney and Melbourne so its not a matter of TiT these are the requirements at these particular consulates.You will notice that the Sydney Consulate require:

■A letter of support from a spouse written in Thai, dated and signed. (This is not require if a spouse is present on the application day.)

The point of the post is not the norm where a farang has a Thai wife and or children but more so the mother or father of that Farang who also wish to come on long term stay in Thailand.

I am asking if their sons wife (their daughter in law) who is classed as part of their family by marriage is working in Thailand (to ensure it is clear the sons wife is working)then does this give the father or mother of the farang hence (mother in law or father in law to their sons wife) access to Thailand under the Non Immg Visa route.

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[fredob43]

  On 11/12/2011 at 8:00 AM, mijan24 said:

  On 11/12/2011 at 3:13 AM, fredob43 said:

You omitted to say that all copy's must be certified and in English. Thai not acceptable. Well that is what it is in England so I don't think they have different rule's but TIT who know's.

Sorry but not sure what your on about re the Thai national working bit. But on my info letter it state's that the son/daughter must be the the applicant's and they must be Thai. So if you haven't got a wife or S/D that are Thai or your over 50 and can prove you have at least £900 a month coming in form of pension or form work wage's ect your buggered and they wan't to see all the paper work.

Fredob43 the requirements for the Non Immg Visa is a direct copy from the Royal Thai Consulates in Sydney and Melbourne so its not a matter of TiT these are the requirements at these particular consulates.You will notice that the Sydney Consulate require:

■A letter of support from a spouse written in Thai, dated and signed. (This is not require if a spouse is present on the application day.)

The point of the post is not the norm where a farang has a Thai wife and or children but more so the mother or father of that Farang who also wish to come on long term stay in Thailand.

I am asking if their sons wife (their daughter in law) who is classed as part of their family by marriage is working in Thailand (to ensure it is clear the sons wife is working)then does this give the father or mother of the farang hence (mother in law or father in law to their sons wife) access to Thailand under the Non Immg Visa route.

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Seem's the visa requirement's are not the same England does not require a letter from the Thai wife. If you look on page two I have put an exact copy "English" of those under O visa I believe it was on the 8th. See your point on the Son/D bit, I think that might be up to them to interpret as they feel fit. One might give one won't. I know that's not much help but in England every consulate give's visa's as they see fit and might do it, also a £10 note work's wonder's, but as that's the Father/Mother bit is not on the list I doubt it, as they seem to be using all the rule's as they stand at the moment. Your best bet is to contact them direct to see what they say.

[Maestro]

  On 11/12/2011 at 8:00 AM, mijan24 said:

...The point of the post is not the norm where a farang has a Thai wife and or children but more so the mother or father of that Farang who also wish to come on long term stay in Thailand...

A non-O visa to visit family is for the purpose of travelling to Thailand, visit your family memeber(s), and leave Thailand again. You should be able to get a non-O visa for this purpose also for visiting your foreign child in Thailand regardless whether this child is married to a Thai national, even if this is not specifically mentioned on a particular embassies website.

The non-O visa to visit family is not intended for a long-term stay in Thailand; for that you would need extensions of stay from the local immigration office and these are not available on the basis of a son in Thailand married to gainfully employed Thai citizen. Now, if your farang son were emploued in Thailand and had a one-year employment extension and if you were at least 50 years old you could get a dependent extension, ie without having to meet the financial requirements for the retirement extension.

[fredob43]

  On 11/12/2011 at 2:59 PM, Maestro said:

  On 11/12/2011 at 8:00 AM, mijan24 said:

...The point of the post is not the norm where a farang has a Thai wife and or children but more so the mother or father of that Farang who also wish to come on long term stay in Thailand...

A non-O visa to visit family is for the purpose of travelling to Thailand, visit your family memeber(s), and leave Thailand again. You should be able to get a non-O visa for this purpose also for visiting your foreign child in Thailand regardless whether this child is married to a Thai national, even if this is not specifically mentioned on a particular embassies website.

The non-O visa to visit family is not intended for a long-term stay in Thailand; for that you would need extensions of stay from the local immigration office and these are not available on the basis of a son in Thailand married to gainfully employed Thai citizen. Now, if your farang son were emploued in Thailand and had a one-year employment extension and if you were at least 50 years old you could get a dependent extension, ie without having to meet the financial requirements for the retirement extension.

I agree with you. But The new rule's state that wife/son/daughter "must" be Thai, or the over 50 bit + £900 and at present in England that is the only way you will get one. And they are sticking to the rule's big time. Else ware who know's.

[Maestro]

I have yet to see a report from a member about an aplication for a non-O visa for the purpose of visiting one's farang child having been rejected. Where an individual consulate's website lists requirements that do not specifically allow a visa for this purpose, eg ask for a Thai birth certificate, I would accompany the application with an explanatory letter addressed to the consul if the intended visit were for a longer period than the 60 days allowed with a tourist visa. After all, the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs says "visit family", without limiting this to visits of family members of Thai nationality.