pnustedt Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Now I know who you really are, its only the quality blokes that are disturbed by my thread Oh no! You're not the old bald git from the Karen Beach development mtg are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd barrett Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Only truly sad people marry a bar girl; there is an exception to the rule however, if they are new arrivals, they have a 'sell-buy' date of a month, after that they are ruined. It is interesting to note that many falangs, hover around bars looking for new girls, because they are often unspoiled and can have nubile potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepz Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 What a bunch of nonsense. Now I have no good insight about bar girls. But I do have some about guys that hang out in bars. So I figure that it is sort of an even match. Bar girls sometimes marry bar guys. Go figure! Sometimes church girls marry church guys, sometimes girls at work marry guys at work. It is all such an amazing coincidence. And about marrying them ... who cares but the people involved. Yeah, I'm sure it is full of landmines or potential hazards. But I've seen marriages that I thought didn't have a chance work, and I've seen marriages I thought were rock solid disintegrate. I have long since given up pretending I had any variation of psychic insight about which works and which doesn't. I guess it comes down to, if you have two people that actually want to be married and take the time to work at it, to be a partner to the other, is has a chance. If you don't, you likely will see some serious conflicts. Regardless if they are the same race/different race, same ages/different ages, same background/different backgrounds. I am sure there are bar girls and guys happily married. And a chunk that are not. Same for all the other variations of where they met, worked, lived. Nothing totally precludes it working except dishonesty. And you can find some of that everywhere. Jeepz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyk Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 ...and can have nubile potential. nubile potential????????? too much acid, syd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Eye_Of_Sauron Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Syd's right. I know guys who do precisely that - to the chagrin of the bar owner, they whisk the new girl out and into their condo. It usually lasts a few months, then issues start to creep in. (Eg 'by the way - who are you?') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Just looked at this thread, after a couple of days away. Thanks ‘johnnyk’ and ‘Top Cat’ for your appreciation of my previous post. Flattery will get you everywhere with this great-grandfather! Well, by gum, ‘gentleman’, you really started something with your first posting. But it has to be ‘Johnny Moron’ who is in the lead for the gold medal. Without him it might have petered out. I nearly wet myself laughing at his postings. But if, as someone seemed to suggest, you are both the same bloke, then you are a genius. I agree with ‘######’ that we mustn’t take ourselves too seriously. But it is a serious topic---there is many a man who was brain-washed about only marrying “a good girl” and who will be stressed-out between that brain-washing and what his instincts will tell him after he has met a “bar girl” who may well be absolutely right for him. Incidentally, I notice that my wife never says ‘bar girl’; she always says 'lady bar'. Significant cultural difference, maybe? I liked your crack “Darling….where did you put my thesis….”; but, seriously, there really ought be a lot more attention paid to ‘sex work’. It is one of the most unstudied/unreported major activities-of-interest/industries in the world, and the topic of this thread is a significant one within that field. And it is only academics who can get paid to put in the time and effort needed---and they have to generate theses. Any thesis would have to look back to WW2, which was the first time that ordinary blokes like us had come in big numbers from the West to other countries. I remember that ‘GI brides’ was a big thing. And I remember as a young man, over 40 years ago, arguing about (i.e. lusting over) the luscious bar girls in “Never On A Sunday” (a farang wanting to ‘save’ a Greek bar girl) and “The World Of Suzie Wong” (a farang wanting to ‘save’ a Hong Kong bar girl). But I am only a retired engineer----no doubt someone who had read Humanities would point to it somewhere in Shakespeare----and someone who had read Theology could give us a biblical reference. Come to think of it, over a hundred years ago ,Robert Service did write about the Bar/Prostitute scene in “The Shooting Of Dan McGrew”------ “There’s a hunger not of the belly kind, that’s banished by bacon and beans, But the gnawing hunger of lonely men for a home and all that it means; For a fireside far from the cares that are, four walls and a roof above, And oh so full of cosy joy, and crowned by a woman’s love. A woman dearer than all the world and true as heaven is true……. ………………………………………. The lady who kissed him, and stole his poke, was the lady who’s known as Lou.” I give thanks for the Internet. In my time a young man couldn’t read of the experiences of the preceding generation(s), as recorded by this thread. However, I do remember an older man saying to us “Better a good Player than a poor Gentleman: Better a good Gentleman than a poor Player. (Paid, professional cricketers were called Players; amateurs were called Gentlemen). And us discussing whether prostitutes were really any worse than ‘nice’ girls who would ‘sleep’ with you after you had wined and dined them. We decided that really there wasn’t any difference between "Prostitutes" and "Amatitutes"---both were possibly good/possibly bad future wives (but have a white wedding, and not a word to Mother!). I loved some of Johnny Moron’s postings, but I strongly disagree that MOST Esarn people are “thick and uneducated”. Some are; but they don’t total 50%, I am sure. And I could say the same about Yorkshire. In fact, the developed areas of Thailand depend on Esarn for much of their intake of young, clever and educated, teachers. There is truth in the jest that Esarn’s most important export is young teachers. I think the idea that most from Esarn are thick and uneducated comes from the fact that those are the ones who are most met, in Pat Porn and driving taxis. And it is the one incompetent ignoramus from Esarn who turns his ten-wheeler over on top of a pick-up full of kids who gets into the papers. The other hundred truck drivers who skillfully avoid getting into accidents go unnoticed. Also our educated and/or clever ones, knowing the image of people from Esarn in Bangkokians’ minds, don’t advertise the fact that they come from Esarn. My wife and I have found that mature, sensible taxi drivers in Bangkok only reveal that they come from Esarn after we have revealed that we do, and that to us it is our “Shangri La”. To get a fair idea of the huge range of ability from Esarn one could visit the NorthEastern bus terminal when the thousands and thousands are embarking for the journeys home at New Year. But there are also all the better-off ones who come up Highway 2 in their G-Wagons and Mercedes. And there all the ones who are saving every baht they can and come home packed tight into roofed pick-ups. If we could assess them all, I am sure we would find that the “thick and uneducated” are only a minority. There may be many a thesis in how developed areas depend on their rural hinterlands for topping-up supplies of brain, as well as brawn. I get the impression that there would be a disaster in Britain if all the Scots and Welsh left London: its government, universities, schools, Stock Exchange etc systems would all grind to a halt. But I digress. I will get back to marrying in general, and bar girls in particular, after a mug of tea and a little flight on Flight Simulator. 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Martin Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 As a teenager I worked part-time for a 30-year-old friend of the family, who ran a market-garden. That 'Uncle-figure', whose own marriage has now lasted 58 years, told me that there were 12 questions that you should ask yourself before proposing marriage to a woman. They were, in order of importance, is she: (1) trustworthy? (2) good-hearted? (3) healthy? (4) shrewd? (5) intelligent? (6) a good money-manager? (7) a good cook? (8) clever? (9) a good shag? (10) educated? (11) well-off? (12) good-looking?. I was surprised that he put 'good shag' so low, but he told me that for all the interest in and boasting about shagging there wasn't that much action around. In those days lots of couples only shagged three times a month, when the kids were at Sunday School, on the three Sundays when she didn't have the rags up. Little did he foresee how, in the fifty years to come, everyday living and working would get a lot less tiring and there would be a lot more energy available for a lot more shagging. I was also surprised that he put 'good looking' so low, but he said: "Who looks on the mantelpiece when they are poking the fire?". He reckoned that if you couldn't answer absolutely 100% Yes! to the first two (trustworthy and good-hearted) you should immediately put marriage out of your mind, no matter how smitten you were. By all means have an affair if she was a good shag and you could get the satisfaction and pride of making her come---but remember that time was passing while you were having your affair and that, while you were shagging your brains out, the girl that you should be winning for a wife might get courted, wed, and carried over the threshold by another man. He reckoned that if you couldn't also say Yes to the third, fourth and fifth ((healthy, shrewd and intelligent) you really ought to consider backing off. But if all the first five were Yes, then you'd be OK (provided you loved her, of course), even though all the rest were No (though if you too were a a lousy money-manager and a lousy cook yourself, you and she might have a tough time!). As to marrying a bar girl in Thailand, IMHO 'gentleman' was beginning to see the light when he asked "Maybe it all comes down to how long they have been on the bar scene?". A trustworthy, good-hearted, shrewd, intelligent woman who goes to 'work bar' will soon be snapped up. If for some reason she isn't, her intelligence will cause her to jack it in before it makes her bitter and cynical. I would warn any man to be very, very, very, wary of thinking of marriage to any woman who has been on the bar scene more than a month or so. But the same goes in farang-land. I gather that quite a lot of easy-on-the-eye female undergraduates in the UK now keep down the size of the Student Loan that they have to take on by doing "massage parlour" and "escort" work in their vacations (well away from their home and university towns---or, for even less risk of being recognised by a client, in France where 'english roses' sell well). But some have found that it makes them very cynical about men. So any man who is into shagging bar girls and also in the marriage market should think it through before and after. He won't be able keep his wits about him during. Man was given a brain and a cock, but only enough blood to operate one at once. Sorry to be serious, ######, but if I have caused even one young man to take things a bit more steadily, then my 'hunting and pecking' on the keyboard will not have been in vain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Man was given a brain and a cock, but only enough blood to operate one at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muay_thai Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Then they invented Viagra, WOMEN BEWARE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Eye_Of_Sauron Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 The theme of 'World of Suzy Wong" wasn't exactly about a Gweilo trying to save a bar girl. Without trying to over-intellectualise a love story, it was more multi-dimensional than that. (Most of the time he found Suzy a complete pain in the rear and an utter pest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I expect you are right 'Eye Of Sauron'. 40 years on, growing older and older....! When an old man says "I remember" he may well really be misremembering. And certainly, he will only be remembering, or mis-remembering, his main and lasting impression. Come to think of it, the film must have had something a bit more cerebral than just luscious lovelies in order to get the major audiences that (I seem to remember) it did. In fact, you have brought back to me a glimmer of a memory (or mis-memory) that in later years I heard that Americans who had HK roots were angered by that film, rather as Brits who have Thai roots are angered by "The King and I". Is that so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Martin your posts are a pleasure to read, you give insight to this thread. Gent maybe he has answered your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Eye_Of_Sauron Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 The movie 'World Of Suzy Wong' was subject to a ban on HK television. ...and not in video shops either for the 7 years I was there from 1994-2001. It remains Lionel Blair's greatest movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshy Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 What's the address for bkk2nite?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IT Manager Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Sorry to be serious, ######, but if I have caused even one young man to take things a bit more steadily, then my 'hunting and pecking' on the keyboard will not have been in vain! Oh please. I thought it was very accurate and quite well worded. As to my being serious, other threads show that is a part time sort of thing. I agree wholeheartedly with the issue. I know of people, including a good friend, who have married the girl from heaven. Time alone will tell whether it was a match made there and destined fora long stretch or a massive stupidity in the face of a bunch of booze. I don't have an issue with it. If someone wants to marry a bar girl and take the risks, it has naught to do with me. I really don't care. In my village, no one did. Probably no one will. At the end of the day, the bar girls learn to be hard, they learn to be careful, and the view a "John" as a reasonable meal ticket. IMHO once the deed is done, they are a couple and good luck to them. Some will need it. Some will accept the need for big hard work. The one time a foreigner married a bar girl near us, she hated the village because the locals knew she was a bar girl. I never even met them,so I don't know how they knew, but they told me about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markt Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 What's the address for bkk2nite?? www.bangkoktonight.com Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigertech Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I am a prostitute at work. Many times I have been ****ed and never got paid extra. It does not give me much to talk about either. Whats up with us prostitutes. Hi Khun, I'm a guy from Europe, I married a bargirl, and now I don't understand why she no like stay with me in europe: I gave evrythinks: dresses, food, evry thinks she want. I leved for her, I married her for bring with me and get her old dirty life. I always wanted give her a quiet life but now she refuse to back to me. why you girls do not try to really change yor lifes ? I know you have a hard lifes and your parents count of you, but you cannot sell your life for your parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 You should work for a newspaper , fantastic prose/ pro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markt Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 welcome back, McChonabot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I am a prostitute at work. Many times I have been ****ed and never got paid extra. It does not give me much to talk about either. Whats up with us prostitutes. Hi Khun, I'm a guy from Europe, I married a bargirl, and now I don't understand why she no like stay with me in europe: I gave evrythinks: dresses, food, evry thinks she want. I leved for her, I married her for bring with me and get her old dirty life. I always wanted give her a quiet life but now she refuse to back to me. why you girls do not try to really change yor lifes ? I know you have a hard lifes and your parents count of you, but you cannot sell your life for your parents. Another troller ? Nobody could be that dumb...could they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I am a prostitute at work. Many times I have been ****ed and never got paid extra. It does not give me much to talk about either. Whats up with us prostitutes. Hi Khun, I'm a guy from Europe, I married a bargirl, and now I don't understand why she no like stay with me in europe: I gave evrythinks: dresses, food, evry thinks she want. I leved for her, I married her for bring with me and get her old dirty life. I always wanted give her a quiet life but now she refuse to back to me. why you girls do not try to really change yor lifes ? I know you have a hard lifes and your parents count of you, but you cannot sell your life for your parents. he cant be genuine, didn't mention the sick kwai, dying yai, & rego for the motor cy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I am a prostitute at work. Many times I have been ****ed and never got paid extra. It does not give me much to talk about either. Whats up with us prostitutes. Hi Khun, I'm a guy from Europe, I married a bargirl, and now I don't understand why she no like stay with me in europe: I gave evrythinks: dresses, food, evry thinks she want. I leved for her, I married her for bring with me and get her old dirty life. I always wanted give her a quiet life but now she refuse to back to me. why you girls do not try to really change yor lifes ? I know you have a hard lifes and your parents count of you, but you cannot sell your life for your parents. he cant ne genuine, didn't mention the sick kwai, dying yai, & rego for motor cy. Hey Bronco...you forgot the mobile phone/s . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 was trying to get a 5 line rhyming reply and couldn't work another two lines in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 tracked tigertech thru his IP and got a candid snap at his internet cafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterchief Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I MET MY WIFE IN A BAR SHE WAS SHOOTING POOL AND BENT OVER THE TABLE ALL I COULD THINK OF WAS WHAT A GREAT (A) ANYWAY THE LONG OF THE STORY IS I MARRIED HER AND WE HAVE BEEN TOGATHER 26YEARS :: OH, BY THE WAY SHE IS AMERICAN SO WHAT THE ###### IS THE DIFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecat Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Do not make too much fun out of him because of his english knowledge and more importantly because of his relation with "some" girl from Thailand. What did happen to him could have happened in many countries but is, for whatever reason, more documented in Thailand,... I, for one, pity him and most of the farang people whom the Thai people (by the way, men and women), get advantage of without those farang people having any clue about it,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I MET MY WIFE IN A BAR SHE WAS SHOOTING POOL AND BENT OVER THE TABLE ALL I COULD THINK OF WAS WHAT A GREAT (A) ANYWAY THE LONG OF THE STORY IS I MARRIED HER AND WE HAVE BEEN TOGATHER 26YEARS :: OH, BY THE WAY SHE IS AMERICAN SO WHAT THE ###### IS THE DIFF. There is no ######DIFF, just never ever mention the pool game. Say, 'Darlng, after you won, I fall in love, when you looked at me...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Do not make too much fun out of him because of his english knowledge and more importantly because of his relation with "some" girl from Thailand.What did happen to him could have happened in many countries but is, for whatever reason, more documented in Thailand,... I, for one, pity him and most of the farang people whom the Thai people (by the way, men and women), get advantage of without those farang people having any clue about it,... You can't seriously believe that guy Bluecat. First post and it's the old I married my gf, took her home and now she's gone story. Get over it, he's trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Do not make too much fun out of him because of his english knowledge and more importantly because of his relation with "some" girl from Thailand.What did happen to him could have happened in many countries but is, for whatever reason, more documented in Thailand,... I, for one, pity him and most of the farang people whom the Thai people (by the way, men and women), get advantage of without those farang people having any clue about it,... You can't seriously believe that guy Bluecat. First post and it's the old I married my gf, took her home and now she's gone story. Get over it, he's trolling. Absolutely Bronco. Another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Agreed its quite obvious that the lad is a pratt, doesn't sound truthful in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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