Dredging Of Canals And Sewers To Be Completed By May: Bangkok Governor

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Dredging of canals and sewers to be completed by May: governor

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Bangkok Governor Sukhumbhand Paribatra said on Monday that the dredging of canals and sewers in the capital would be done before the rainy season starts in May.

He said he had instructed the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration's Drainage and Sewerage Department to speed up the dredging and have it completed before May.

Sukhumbhand was speaking to reporters after a meeting with senior BMA officials.

During the meeting, the Drainage and Sewerage Department reported on its plan for dredging canals and sewers in the capital to cope with possible floodwaters from upstream provinces, Sukhumbhand said.

He said the department initially expected that dredging would be undertaken in June, July or August but that he had instructed the department to speed up the works.

The department was also instructed to coordinate with the Army.

Asked to comment on speculation by a Pheu Thai MP that he would resign before the end of his term in January next year, the governor, a member of the opposition Democrat Party, said if he decided to do so, reporters would be informed first, not a Pheu Thai MP.

The governor added that the payment of compensation to flood victims in 30 Bangkok districts was now 80 per cent complete. He said the government has yet to approve compensation for 12 other districts.

-- The Nation 2012-01-30

[AleG]

Good luck with that.

A couple weeks ago, going along... ehhhh... forgot the name of the road. Nevermind, it was in an area that had been flooded, I saw this shop that had disposed of the sand bags used during the flooding by dumping them into the canal running next to the shop. Forward thinking, I think not...

[fred110]

Good luck with that.

A couple weeks ago, going along... ehhhh... forgot the name of the road. Nevermind, it was in an area that had been flooded, I saw this shop that had disposed of the sand bags used during the flooding by dumping them into the canal running next to the shop. Forward thinking, I think not...

Where will they dump all that they dredge? Into a river?

[MAN2SIN2BKK]

And who is going to clear all the rubbish and dredge the Rangsit canals? Khlong 3 is still a mess and another disaster waiting to happen!

[jimbeam1]

So have they actually started the dredging & drain clearing work yet?

Have not seen any sign of it in our area yet (Bang-Na)

jb1

[lovelomsak]

Another pipedream they will just talk about doing it and get extra funding but donot expect it to be done.

[bluebluewater]

Nothing is being done where I live. The stench of the trash is horrid. The neighborhood eating places are not worth visiting because of the flies. The small canals have sofas and other small furniture pieces in them that will be there for years I would bet.

I'm moving so a southern coastal town.

[anterian]

There is enough junk in the canals around my area to build a small mountain, perhaps we will have a few more "golden mounts" like the one in Bangkok.

[MEL1]

Very kind of him to consider and assure Bangkok, after he was party to deliberately flooding all areas outside of Bangkok last year, demonstrating crocodile tears for his failure that it was coming to Bangkok, and pursuing to barricade Bangkok with 'Big Bag' at the expense of all the sundry that we know got the worst of it! Kind indeed. To be blunt - he's a c____ !

So there it is, in writing, and his statements, 'the divide between the capital, and the rest of the lowlife's'.

If I wasn't sober I'd be writing vulgarities about this 'matter of control' about central BKK, and the F factor applied to everybody outside of it.

This is outragous, and He needs to be subpoenaed before the Nation to explain how he failed Thailand but saved Bangkok, last year,and what his plans are for not failing Thailand this year, whilst he presupposes to save Bangkok this year.

I smell stinky waters coming neck deep, yet again.... or was that John Bonham? Rock on Paribatra - you bummer!

-mel.

Edited January 30, 2012 by MEL1

[ozzieman05]

So have they actually started the dredging & drain clearing work yet? Have not seen any sign of it in our area yet (Bang-Na) jb1

He said it will all be completed by May, There was no mention of what year ????

[siampolee]

MEL 1

Thailand was failed by an incompetent cabinet minister who refused to drain excess water from the dams so as to curry favour with the farming fraternity who they ( the cabinet ministers )consequently flooded due to their ineptitude along with many other innocent victims.

The minister concerned stated that he would take full responsibility for his inaction in retaining the excess water in the dams and the resultant disaster.

We are still waiting to see what those consequences might be too.

However I have doubts as to the claims that the dredging operation will be finished let alone effective by May of this year or any other May in the near future or in the distant future either.

The same applies to Yinglucks announcement that the government has in place a flood control scheme ready for the next rainy season. Wonderful achievements for any country let alone Thailand. In all of my twenty two years here I have yet to see such grandiose plans completed on time, if actually ever at all.

Talk is cheap at 5,000 baht for a destroyed house, business, car , motorcycle etc. and family life isn't it ?

Terrorists get 3,000,000 baht, seems as if priorities are somewhat skewed to me.

Edited January 30, 2012 by siampolee

[kurnell]

Who will cop the blame when Thailand floods again during the rainy season?

[ratcatcher]

Who will cop the blame when Thailand floods again during the rainy season?

Cambodia? The U.S.A.?

[whybother]

Very kind of him to consider and assure Bangkok, after he was party to deliberately flooding all areas outside of Bangkok last year, demonstrating crocodile tears for his failure that it was coming to Bangkok, and pursuing to barricade Bangkok with 'Big Bag' at the expense of all the sundry that we know got the worst of it! Kind indeed. To be blunt - he's a c____ !

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-mel.

Do you really believe that flooding Bangkok would have stopped the flooding outside Bangkok? All it would have done is put another 5 - 10 million people in danger and trillions of baht worth of infrastructure out of action. Can you please explain to me how that would have helped the people that were flooded?

[lovelomsak]

Very kind of him to consider and assure Bangkok, after he was party to deliberately flooding all areas outside of Bangkok last year, demonstrating crocodile tears for his failure that it was coming to Bangkok, and pursuing to barricade Bangkok with 'Big Bag' at the expense of all the sundry that we know got the worst of it! Kind indeed. To be blunt - he's a c____ !

<snip>

-mel.

Do you really believe that flooding Bangkok would have stopped the flooding outside Bangkok? All it would have done is put another 5 - 10 million people in danger and trillions of baht worth of infrastructure out of action. Can you please explain to me how that would have helped the people that were flooded?

I will see if I can help explain how it may have helped those flooded outside Bangkok.

First it would have definitely have lowered the level of the water in out side Bangkok areas. Second it would have put way more pressure on the powers that be to actually do something about the flooding at the time. Would have also put pressure on the powers that be to make sure flooding of that nature never happened again.

[whybother]

I will see if I can help explain how it may have helped those flooded outside Bangkok.

First it would have definitely have lowered the level of the water in out side Bangkok areas. Second it would have put way more pressure on the powers that be to actually do something about the flooding at the time. Would have also put pressure on the powers that be to make sure flooding of that nature never happened again.

1) Barely, and another 5 million flooded would have meant that there would be less resources at the time and less money afterwards for those flooded outside Bangkok.

2) What more could they have done about the flooding? It was going to flood regardless of what they did. They stuffed up management of recovery and relief. How much worse would that have been if the rest of Bangkok had flooded?

3) Maybe, but they still have that pressure. Whether it will make any difference or not, we'll have to wait and see.

[robblok]

I am pretty sure if there were no dams and holdups everywhere the flooding would have passed much faster. The blocking of Bangkok only made others suffer more. Also upcountry the dams were a bad idea, they kept the water till it was strong enough to overflow and then inundate a larger area as it would have without the dams.

The center of BKK might have been hit more but it would have been over a month earlier at least. I seen how fast the water went away once they started pumping it away. It was incredible.

I also agree that if bkk was flooded now more measures would be in place to have it happen again. Because they did not get flooded there is still a big mai pen rai attitude.

Part of me hopes i get flooded again because that would mean the end of investment in Thailand by the Japanese. It would break the government and hopefully get some real smart people in charge.

[whybother]

I am pretty sure if there were no dams and holdups everywhere the flooding would have passed much faster. The blocking of Bangkok only made others suffer more. Also upcountry the dams were a bad idea, they kept the water till it was strong enough to overflow and then inundate a larger area as it would have without the dams.

The center of BKK might have been hit more but it would have been over a month earlier at least. I seen how fast the water went away once they started pumping it away. It was incredible.

I also agree that if bkk was flooded now more measures would be in place to have it happen again. Because they did not get flooded there is still a big mai pen rai attitude.

Part of me hopes i get flooded again because that would mean the end of investment in Thailand by the Japanese. It would break the government and hopefully get some real smart people in charge.

The flooding might have been over a month earlier, but many more Bangkok businesses and many high rise buildings (apartments and businesses) would have been out of action for 3 - 6 months because of infrastructure damage.

[hellodolly]

Well at least Bangkok is talking about doing some thing realistic.

Now as to when it will be completed who knows.

I notice on this forum that because they said they would do some thing every one thinks it should be done now and is saying how come.

A good question for the end of May.

Also people might want to read the article he has just instructed them to start the job.

[lovelomsak]

May is only 3 months away. So why do we not all come back in May to this thread and show and tell if it the dredging gets done. If it is done we could praise the Governor if it isnot done, we can discuss why he didnot do it and give specifics of where it wasnot done and even pictures.

[kirk0233]

During my evacuation of Bang Yai in Nonthaburi I found the Governor of Bangkok to be the most reliable source of flood information. However, I don't agree with the favored position Bangkok holds over the provinces in protection from flooding and apparently in compensation for flooding. I was not able to use or access my home in Nonthaburi for over 2 months, yet no compensation as yet; in contrast to most in Bangkok. I don't see any dredging of canals here and have not read of any in Ayutthaya or other flooded provinces; apart from Bangkok. Perhaps the Governor of Bangkok is just more competent. The Governor of Nonthaburi is grossly incompetent and did almost nothing during the flooding until a near riot occurred. He then made promises he did not keep. And so it goes.

[Klong Song]

And who is going to clear all the rubbish and dredge the Rangsit canals? Khlong 3 is still a mess and another disaster waiting to happen!

Ditto for Klong 2. The water level is very low at the moment revealing the accumulated debris. Perfect time to dredge but nothing is going happening.

[Moruya]

Very kind of him to consider and assure Bangkok, after he was party to deliberately flooding all areas outside of Bangkok last year, demonstrating crocodile tears for his failure that it was coming to Bangkok, and pursuing to barricade Bangkok with 'Big Bag' at the expense of all the sundry that we know got the worst of it! Kind indeed. To be blunt - he's a c____ !

So there it is, in writing, and his statements, 'the divide between the capital, and the rest of the lowlife's'.

If I wasn't sober I'd be writing vulgarities about this 'matter of control' about central BKK, and the F factor applied to everybody outside of it.

This is outragous, and He needs to be subpoenaed before the Nation to explain how he failed Thailand but saved Bangkok, last year,and what his plans are for not failing Thailand this year, whilst he presupposes to save Bangkok this year.

I smell stinky waters coming neck deep, yet again.... or was that John Bonham? Rock on Paribatra - you bummer!

-mel.

Governor of Bangkok prepares Bangkok for floods months in advance - shock horror.

What did your governor do?

Do you think that Sukhumband is responsible for all the surrounding provinces?

[moe666]

The Governor of Bangkok is responsible for Bangkok not the full country, Mel you anger is directed at the wrong person.

[robblok]

I am pretty sure if there were no dams and holdups everywhere the flooding would have passed much faster. The blocking of Bangkok only made others suffer more. Also upcountry the dams were a bad idea, they kept the water till it was strong enough to overflow and then inundate a larger area as it would have without the dams.

The center of BKK might have been hit more but it would have been over a month earlier at least. I seen how fast the water went away once they started pumping it away. It was incredible.

I also agree that if bkk was flooded now more measures would be in place to have it happen again. Because they did not get flooded there is still a big mai pen rai attitude.

Part of me hopes i get flooded again because that would mean the end of investment in Thailand by the Japanese. It would break the government and hopefully get some real smart people in charge.

The flooding might have been over a month earlier, but many more Bangkok businesses and many high rise buildings (apartments and businesses) would have been out of action for 3 - 6 months because of infrastructure damage.

That is what you say.. i have lived here and seen how fast stuff is repaired.. high rises are here too. Especially if the water level would have been lower it would not have been such a big deal. Only problem is it took ages for the government to clean up the garbage (its still there at some spots).

I really hope they dredge a bit more, if it floods again im moving to an other part of the country. But i doubt it will happen again they will divert it from ayutayya because of the factories there so it wont come here. They had plans to use the other rivers.

I do find it strange that most people haven't seen any dredging of the canals, almost sound as if its not done.

[MAN2SIN2BKK]

Ditto for Klong 2. The water level is very low at the moment revealing the accumulated debris. Perfect time to dredge but nothing is going happening.

I do find it strange that most people haven't seen any dredging of the canals, almost sound as if its not done.

My experience is of Rangsit Khlong Sam, the canal has not been dredged, yes the water level has dropped but that has just had the effect of shifting the floating garbage from under the bridges to a site where a new bridge is being constructed and effectively creating a dam unless it is cleared before the next rains. On the canal banks at Preuksa 12 there are piles of rat and fly infested stinking garbage. There was an attempt to clear from Preuksa 9 and 11 but still piles of litter are left everywhere.

On Khlong Si heading to Lam Lukka there are piles of rubbish thrown onto the wasteland that I doubt will ever be cleared

[Moruya]

Following an initial drag of Khlong Maimeenamleui in the Pathumwan are of Bangkok, 376 badly decomposed corpses were dredged up.

Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, following a tip off from a man with severe gout, one leg significantly shorter than the other, half an ear on the right hand side of his face and with the initials SD who cannot be named for legal reasons. "These must be the missing Red Shirts." the DPM. "There can be no other possible explanation".

Arriving at the scene, Chalerm was dismayed to learn that the bodies had been identified as 227 rats, 63 dogs, 60 cats, 25 pigeons, and a farang.

On further investigation the farang, who was found with his hands tied behind his back and had been shot through the back of the head was pronounced by the Royal Thai police as a clear suicide and handed over to the por teck tueng foundation.

[lovelomsak]

I am coming to Bangkok for a few days in late March and was wondering if any Thai Visa members could let me know where this dredging is being done or has been done. I would like to have a look at it. It would be nice to observe it being done just to see what is in those Canals.

[DocN]

Mindless, senseless, hollow blabber with no substance and no reason!

Edited March 9, 2012 by DocN

[Soutpeel]

Forgive my ignorance..but HTF do you dredge a sewer ?....canal I understand...but a sewer ??