PAD Supporters Hear Charges Over Airport Occupation

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PAD Supporters Hear Charges over Airport Occupation

BANGKOK: -- A number of the People's Alliance for Democracy supporters have been arraigned for their roles in the yellow-shirt occupation of Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang airports in 2008.

Police General Pratin Santiprabhob, Rear Admiral Min Kolakitkamjon, Amarin Korman and Sutin Wannabovorn are among the supporters of the People's Alliance for Democracy who have reported to the authorities to acknowledge charges for their roles in the yellow-shirt protesters' occupation of Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang airports in 2008, which is a violation of the Emergency Decree imposed at the time.

Meanwhile, another yellow-shirt supporter Pramote Hommuk has been charged with organizing an illegal assembly, threatening the use of force and causing public disturbance during the 2008 occupation of the two Bangkok airports.

Special Adviser to the Police Chief Police General Somyot Pumpanmuang, who has been put in charge of the case, said he has yet to hear from the remaining defendants if they would like to postpone the arraignment.

Today marks the first summons for the defendants to hear their additional charges. If they fail to turn themselves in after the second summons, warrants for their arrest will be issued immediately.

Somyot expects the remaining defendants to deny all the charges. He said they can be released without having to post bail as the investigation has not yet been finalized.

-- Tan Network 2012-03-02

[Reasonableman]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

[phiphidon]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

Yes they've really tightened the noose in an extremely loose one sided way.The yellow shirts probably won't even have to post bail as the investigation hasn't been finished yet. Meanwhile hundreds of red shirt supporters were given no bail, incarcerated for 20 odd months, some of them having been found not guilty when they eventually got to court!

[Reasonableman]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

Yes they've really tightened the noose in an extremely loose one sided way.The yellow shirts probably won't even have to post bail as the investigation hasn't been finished yet. Meanwhile hundreds of red shirt supporters were given no bail, incarcerated for 20 odd months, some of them having been found not guilty when they eventually got to court!

You should be happy they are facing up to charges. The wheels grind on. Go have a party, sourpuss

[MEL1]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

Yes they've really tightened the noose in an extremely loose one sided way.The yellow shirts probably won't even have to post bail as the investigation hasn't been finished yet. Meanwhile hundreds of red shirt supporters were given no bail, incarcerated for 20 odd months, some of them having been found not guilty when they eventually got to court!

You should be happy they are facing up to charges. The wheels grind on. Go have a party, sourpuss

When the wheels grind to a halt, I wonder if 'everybody will have to face up to their charges? (c.f. Dubai)

-mel.

[Pib]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

By the time the noose is tighten it will be so old and rotten everybody will just say, "Oh never mind."

Is the recent military coup considered non-democratic force to achieve political ends? If so, when will those chickens come to roost?

[Reasonableman]

Let's not attribute blame entirely to any one side. A great many wrongs have been done by many people, and many people, including the non-aligned and neutral, have suffered, as well. For Thailand to move forward politically, economically, and socially, everyone needs to see that, without the indiscriminate filters of the colored specs. Acknowledge and take responsibility for the wrongs on both sides. The tit-for-tat blame game isn't working. Justice is, after all, color blind.

[sparebox2]

All the yellow shirts should be in jail for seizual of the airports.

[Reasonableman]

Back to school for you ;-)

All the yellow shirts should be in jail for seizual of the airports.

[Pib]

Let's not attribute blame entirely to any one side. A great many wrongs have been done by many people, and many people, including the non-aligned and neutral, have suffered, as well. For Thailand to move forward politically, economically, and socially, everyone needs to see that, without the indiscriminate filters of the colored specs. Acknowledge and take responsibility for the wrongs on both sides. The tit-for-tat blame game isn't working. Justice is, after all, color blind.

Above would work in a perfect world.

[Reasonableman]

As you wish, it's really up to you. The country needs people of vision, good will, and leadership, or it will fail. It's really a choice for survival. Selfish, pragmatic, if you like.

Let's not attribute blame entirely to any one side. A great many wrongs have been done by many people, and many people, including the non-aligned and neutral, have suffered, as well. For Thailand to move forward politically, economically, and socially, everyone needs to see that, without the indiscriminate filters of the colored specs. Acknowledge and take responsibility for the wrongs on both sides. The tit-for-tat blame game isn't working. Justice is, after all, color blind.

Above would work in a perfect world.

[phiphidon]

Let's not attribute blame entirely to any one side. A great many wrongs have been done by many people, and many people, including the non-aligned and neutral, have suffered, as well. For Thailand to move forward politically, economically, and socially, everyone needs to see that, without the indiscriminate filters of the colored specs. Acknowledge and take responsibility for the wrongs on both sides. The tit-for-tat blame game isn't working. Justice is, after all, color blind.

Not in Thailand it isn't. Brad Adams Asia Director of the NY based Human Rights Watch recently said that the Red Shirts have been systematically denied bail and treated unfairly.

[sbk]

Off topic bickering targeting another member has been removed, keep it up and I will suspend you. Remember the golden rule MYOB when it comes to other members, cheers

[tlansford]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

Yes they've really tightened the noose in an extremely loose one sided way.The yellow shirts probably won't even have to post bail as the investigation hasn't been finished yet. Meanwhile hundreds of red shirt supporters were given no bail, incarcerated for 20 odd months, some of them having been found not guilty when they eventually got to court!

You should be happy they are facing up to charges. The wheels grind on. Go have a party, sourpuss

Abhisit, when he became PM, promised to bring charges for the airport occupation...

Hmmm, ...

What was his nickname from the press corps, again, ???

Nickname of opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva: Delayed handsome

Abhisit freely offers suggestions for resolving pressing problems like political conflicts and flood management but ... he should have implemented his ideas before he lost the general election. Despite his good looks, he acted too late. He should have translated his words into action when he was the prime minister.

[OzMick]

Abhisit, when he became PM, promised to bring charges for the airport occupation...

And here they are. Do you think the investigation and preparation took place since July?

Think of them as a preview for what is coming for those in shirts of the "other" colour as I haven't seen any charges that don't equally apply.

Remember, "No double standards" ?

How many PAD leaders have avoided their charges by being included on the Democrat party list?

[OzMick]

All the yellow shirts should be in jail for seizual of the airports.

Even the ones that weren't there? Can we arrest ALL the red shirts for their groups misdeeds? Not enough jails, we can lock them in red villages.

[Ricardo]

Not in Thailand it isn't. Brad Adams Asia Director of the NY based Human Rights Watch recently said that the Red Shirts have been systematically denied bail and treated unfairly.

Yay for Justice, under a Red-Shirt/PTP Government !

[moe666]

We have a PTP Red Shirt government so why haven't the poor red shirts in jail not been released? Lets see the leaders have been released but not the peons maybe a bit of double standard within their own party.

I am waiting for Big T to get his summons for backing the demonstrations, with his words and money.

[phiphidon]

Not in Thailand it isn't. Brad Adams Asia Director of the NY based Human Rights Watch recently said that the Red Shirts have been systematically denied bail and treated unfairly.

Yay for Justice, under a Red-Shirt/PTP Government !

Do you not feel there is a need for an organisation like Human Rights Watch? Could it be that they are an independant group with no agenda to pursue on behalf of the UDD?

[yummypizza]

Move on, there are enough problems ahead, without looking for sacrifices in the past...

[metisdead]

A baiting post intended to steer this topic off topic has been removed as well as a reply.

[OzMick]

Not in Thailand it isn't. Brad Adams Asia Director of the NY based Human Rights Watch recently said that the Red Shirts have been systematically denied bail and treated unfairly.

Yay for Justice, under a Red-Shirt/PTP Government !

Do you not feel there is a need for an organisation like Human Rights Watch? Could it be that they are an independant group with no agenda to pursue on behalf of the UDD?

There was no suggestion that HRW are biased. Recent criticism would be of the recent government, if the situation still exists, which hasn't tackled what would seem to be a priority issue - equal justice for those who helped them get elected.

But we know where their priorities lie.

[Reasonableman]

Come on OzMick, who is "we"? You and your mates, or who? This is your personal opinion, right? Far too many people here assuming they are authorised to speak on behalf of some wider unspecified group called "we". On all "sides" of the discussion.

[rubl]

Not in Thailand it isn't. Brad Adams Asia Director of the NY based Human Rights Watch recently said that the Red Shirts have been systematically denied bail and treated unfairly.

Yay for Justice, under a Red-Shirt/PTP Government !

Do you not feel there is a need for an organisation like Human Rights Watch? Could it be that they are an independant group with no agenda to pursue on behalf of the UDD?

There was no suggestion that HRW are biased. Recent criticism would be of the recent government, if the situation still exists, which hasn't tackled what would seem to be a priority issue - equal justice for those who helped them get elected.

But we know where their priorities lie.

On the sixth of February 2012 the Justice Ministry began filing of bail applications for about 60 red-shirt detainees with the special budget of 43.8 million baht provided by the Yingluck Shinawatra government for use as bail bonds.

No idea how that's progressing, but during his phone-in on the 25th k. Thaksin said he would try to help bail applications for his red shirt supporters still in prison.

Surely with soooo much effort there will be no red-shirts in jail awaiting trial. Maybe the pluche prison for political prisoners wouldn't be needed any more, or is that one specially build for the most visible of all, our dear fugitive criminal k. Thaksin S.

Edited March 3, 2012 by rubl

[looping]

Let's not forget why the yellow shirts were protesting. Let's also not forget why the red shirts were protesting. Maybe the style could be considered too; a peaceful protest causing inconvenience vs mass violence and intimidation. But I guess it's irrelevant, T needs charges against his opposition as something to bargain with, and I'm sure he will have his wish as usual.

[phiphidon]

On the sixth of February 2012 the Justice Ministry began filing of bail applications for about 60 red-shirt detainees with the special budget of 43.8 million baht provided by the Yingluck Shinawatra government for use as bail bonds.

No idea how that's progressing, but during his phone-in on the 25th k. Thaksin said he would try to help bail applications for his red shirt supporters still in prison.

Surely with soooo much effort there will be no red-shirts in jail awaiting trial. Maybe the pluche prison for political prisoners wouldn't be needed any more, or is that one specially build for the most visible of all, our dear fugitive criminal k. Thaksin S.

Maybe Sondhi will be it's first inhabitant, but then again his charges weren't political, just straight forward corporate fraud so will it be Bankwang? As if .

[cdnvic]

An inflammatory post and replies to it have been removed.

[Backwoods]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

Yes they've really tightened the noose in an extremely loose one sided way.The yellow shirts probably won't even have to post bail as the investigation hasn't been finished yet. Meanwhile hundreds of red shirt supporters were given no bail, incarcerated for 20 odd months, some of them having been found not guilty when they eventually got to court!

Yellow shirts didn't burn the airport down. Red shirts cost billions in damages, yet leaders get elected,Amazing Thailand!

[ikke]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

By the time the noose is tighten it will be so old and rotten everybody will just say, "Oh never mind."

Is the recent military coup considered non-democratic force to achieve political ends? If so, when will those chickens come to roost?

Same people, same yellows.....

[airconsult]

The noose seems to be tightening on all those who seek/have sought to use non-democratic force or violence to achieve their political ends. The chickens eventually come home to roost.

Yes they've really tightened the noose in an extremely loose one sided way.The yellow shirts probably won't even have to post bail as the investigation hasn't been finished yet. Meanwhile hundreds of red shirt supporters were given no bail, incarcerated for 20 odd months, some of them having been found not guilty when they eventually got to court!

Yellow shirts didn't burn the airport down. Red shirts cost billions in damages, yet leaders get elected,Amazing Thailand!

Woah there - are you saying the occupation of the airports didn't cost anything????

Estimates to the court were that just for suvarnabhumi was 2 billion thb per day (10 days), plus cost to repair and re-certify security equipment. And all that was just Thai costs, did you factor in the cost to the airlines? Thai Airways estimates were that it cost them 500 million thb per day (another 5 billion), and general estimates of the cost of one plane being out of service in the airline industry is about 1 million USD per day (initially 88 planes stuck, 37 released later).

If I took the worst case there, 20 billion, plus another 26 billion in costs to the airlines (and this doesn't account for the cost of diverted flights).

46 billion thb. Perhaps less than the UDD troubles, but certainly significant.

Cheers