Opinions On Best Fuel

[adweb00]

Ok have a CB400 has tuned length exhaust with a yoshi pipe. Good strong ignition but no other mods yet. Out of all the pump fuels offered in service stations what's the best??

[wana]

caltex benzine 95

[adweb00]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

[wana]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

its the most expensive juice in the whole station

look for anything that costs around 50thb per litre

[adweb00]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

its the most expensive juice in the whole station

look for anything that costs around 50thb per litre

Awesome thanks mate

[TylerBKK]

95 Gold Benzine Caltex only.

[TylerBKK]

It costs me about 400 Baht for a fill up on my CBR250

[adweb00]

It costs me about 400 Baht for a fill up on my CBR250

And that's the only fuel u run mate??

[adweb00]

Am doing a fully built engine for it stroker crank etc etc Will run a microtech on that so will be interesting to see what fuel performs the best. Will have the microtech dash so will see the ratios

[kawapower]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

Went into Caltex this morning looking for benzine 95 they not do. (Katu Caltex)

Can anyone give me the locations of available 95 benzine on Phuket?

Edited March 18, 2012 by kawapower

[wana]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

Went into Caltex this morning looking for benzine 95 they not do. (Katu Caltex)

Can anyone give me the locations of available 95 benzine on Phuket?

its only certain stations that have benzine 95 thesedays

the government tried to do away with it a couple of years ago and it disappeared briefly

but it has sneaked back into some stations

around sukhumvit /petchburi road they have it

also on vibhawadi rangsit they have it too

people with older sports cars are always complaining because its hard to find

[Kwasaki]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

Went into Caltex this morning looking for benzine 95 they not do. (Katu Caltex)

Can anyone give me the locations of available 95 benzine on Phuket?

I had a imported CB400SF slung together in Thailand bought it in CM, I emailed Honda some questions with the engine number in Japan and they were very helpful they told me where the original engine and bike were assembled and also I could use 91 benzine in Thailand, did so for nearly 3 year and sold it it is still running well.

Mine was a 1996 carb engine model you do not say what yours is so could be different, but Honda being Honda, new injected ones maybe they can run on gasohol.

CB400 1996.bmp

[kawapower]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

Went into Caltex this morning looking for benzine 95 they not do. (Katu Caltex)

Can anyone give me the locations of available 95 benzine on Phuket?

I had a imported CB400SF slung together in Thailand bought it in CM, I emailed Honda some questions with the engine number in Japan and they were very helpful they told me where the original engine and bike were assembled and also I could use 91 benzine in Thailand, did so for nearly 3 year and sold it it is still running well.

Mine was a 1996 carb engine model you do not say what yours is so could be different, but Honda being Honda, new injected ones maybe they can run on gasohol.

CB400 1996.bmp

I Have the new Kawasaki Z1000, on tank it says Benzine, E10 Gasohol 95, manual says 95, dealer says 91 Benzine!! manual also says do not use a lower octane fuel than that which is specified.

Edited March 18, 2012 by kawapower

[adweb00]

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

Went into Caltex this morning looking for benzine 95 they not do. (Katu Caltex)

Can anyone give me the locations of available 95 benzine on Phuket?

I had a imported CB400SF slung together in Thailand bought it in CM, I emailed Honda some questions with the engine number in Japan and they were very helpful they told me where the original engine and bike were assembled and also I could use 91 benzine in Thailand, did so for nearly 3 year and sold it it is still running well.

Mine was a 1996 carb engine model you do not say what yours is so could be different, but Honda being Honda, new injected ones maybe they can run on gasohol.

CB400 1996.bmp

I have the quad carb model as well. On what i put in it now it runs fine pulls hard the whole way to redline. I am building a monster engine for it which will be injected controlled by a microtech. Just saves a lot of trial and error by getting everyone's opinion now. Am getting some C-16 sent which ill use on special occasions ha ha

[Kwasaki]

I had a imported CB400SF slung together in Thailand bought it in CM, I emailed Honda some questions with the engine number in Japan and they were very helpful they told me where the original engine and bike were assembled and also I could use 91 benzine in Thailand, did so for nearly 3 year and sold it it is still running well.

Mine was a 1996 carb engine model you do not say what yours is so could be different, but Honda being Honda, new injected ones maybe they can run on gasohol.

CB400 1996.bmp

I Have the new Kawasaki Z1000, on tank it says Benzine, E10 Gasohol 95, manual says 95, dealer says 91 Benzine!! manual also says do not use a lower octane fuel than that which is specified.

Mine was secondhand import didn't have anything on the tank except a honda emblem.

We have been through your fuel choice already and you know your ECU will adjust to the fuel available but you know from your manual and tank label already which to use and which is best for your engine design.

Your bike may have some comparison if it is a new CB400SF with fuel economy (PGM-FI) system and hyper VTEC which has rubbers and fuel components that are compatable with gasohol, and maybe the OP can get kits for his bike.

I don't know a lot about fuels and da do ron ron except the song it's all a bit confusing to me, I bet the octane ratings vary a lot from garage to garage anyhow.

But as of now we do not know what year the OP bike is.

[Kwasaki]

I have the quad carb model as well. On what i put in it now it runs fine pulls hard the whole way to redline. I am building a monster engine for it which will be injected controlled by a microtech. Just saves a lot of trial and error by getting everyone's opinion now. Am getting some C-16 sent which ill use on special occasions ha ha

Well if your building an engine that will run on injection you can tune & map to the best available fuel in your Thailand area.

Make sure you use the right fuel booster mixes C-16 is 116 octane but you can always look forward to rebuilding again.

A carb CB will run on 91 benzine no problem.

[adweb00]

I have the quad carb model as well. On what i put in it now it runs fine pulls hard the whole way to redline. I am building a monster engine for it which will be injected controlled by a microtech. Just saves a lot of trial and error by getting everyone's opinion now. Am getting some C-16 sent which ill use on special occasions ha ha

Well if your building an engine that will run on injection you can tune & map to the best available fuel in your Thailand area.

Make sure you use the right fuel booster mixes C-16 is 116 octane but you can always look forward to rebuilding again.

A carb CB will run on 91 benzine no problem.

Ha ha ha yeah but having to change fuel maps all the time is a pain in the ass ha ha And yes have been using C-16 for a long time now if ya don't know what ya doing can turn bad as ya said. That's only for special occasions anyways

[TylerBKK]

You can use 91 if you can't fine 95 benzine. But I would stay away from gasohol. That stuff doesn't run well at all and someone told me it gums up the engine over time. They also have those gasohol benzine blends I think. Pass on that too. PTT has 91 benzine if you can't find Caltex 95. But I think Shell has nothing but gasohol these days. Just say no to corn!

[Kwasaki]

You can use 91 if you can't fine 95 benzine. But I would stay away from gasohol. That stuff doesn't run well at all and someone told me it gums up the engine over time. They also have those gasohol benzine blends I think. Pass on that too. PTT has 91 benzine if you can't find Caltex 95. But I think Shell has nothing but gasohol these days. Just say no to corn!

How old is your CBR250 and what does it say in the manual, I would be surprised if the new CBR's couldn't take 91 gasohol.

[wana]

You can use 91 if you can't fine 95 benzine. But I would stay away from gasohol. That stuff doesn't run well at all and someone told me it gums up the engine over time. They also have those gasohol benzine blends I think. Pass on that too. PTT has 91 benzine if you can't find Caltex 95. But I think Shell has nothing but gasohol these days. Just say no to corn!

How old is your CBR250 and what does it say in the manual, I would be surprised if the new CBR's couldn't take 91 gasohol.

all cbr250r cant be much more than a year old ,i thought they only hit the shops around a year ago

the can take gasohol e10

and they are even supposed to be able to take E20 and thats stamped on the owners manual

[TylerBKK]

I've put 91 gasohol in it once or twice. Attached is what the manual says.

[Gweiloman]

Just got the new Honda PCX 150. According to the dealer, this bike can take every sort of petrol, Benzine 91 / 95, Gasohol 91, even E20. Is this at all possible? Would the best bet be Benzine 91 assuming cost is not a real issue? (I would probably do something like 1,000 kms a month compared to my current 2,500 kms per month in my Prius).

[kawapower]

_{There is an issue in this country regarding bikes and fuel, my Z1000 according to the tank sticker and manual should be running on Benzine 95 which is very difficult to find, it also says it can use 95 gasohol E10, I am using that at the moment and the bike runs perfect, I have contacted Kawasaki Thailand asking them to provide information regarding the effects of gasohol on the Z1000 engine, also to explain why they sell a bike that needs Benzine 95 but is extremely difficult to find, no response!! however I did get a response from Kawasaki UK.}

_{Kawasaki Phuket are adamant that 91 Benzine should be used in the Z1000 when everything points to it being the wrong fuel, I think they are saying this because Benzine is so difficult to find, I will be going back to them and asking for an explanation as to why they are giving out the wrong information.}

Thank you for your email.

The fuel information detailed both on your fuel tank and in your owners manual should be the same and are correct. These are the specifications recommended by the factory. For the UK, the owners handbook specifies that the minimum octane rating that can be used is 95 and that you should never use gasoline with an octane rating lower than the minimum specified by Kawasaki to prevent serious engine damage.

So in answer to your question, if the fuel guidelines in your owners handbook are as above then the factory are stating that using a fuel with a RON of less than 95 will cause serious engine damage.

Kind regards,

Alan Lunn

Technical Service Advisor

Technical and Customer Service Group

_{Kawasaki Motors UK <img />}

Edited March 21, 2012 by kawapower

[wana]

Just got the new Honda PCX 150. According to the dealer, this bike can take every sort of petrol, Benzine 91 / 95, Gasohol 91, even E20. Is this at all possible? Would the best bet be Benzine 91 assuming cost is not a real issue? (I would probably do something like 1,000 kms a month compared to my current 2,500 kms per month in my Prius).

all modern hondas are supposed to be capable of running e10 and even e20

they should be fine but many people use benzine to be on the safe side

[kawapower]

You can use 91 if you can't fine 95 benzine. But I would stay away from gasohol. That stuff doesn't run well at all and someone told me it gums up the engine over time. They also have those gasohol benzine blends I think. Pass on that too. PTT has 91 benzine if you can't find Caltex 95. But I think Shell has nothing but gasohol these days. Just say no to corn!

My Suzuki Skydrive has run on 91 gasohol for 3 yrs and still runs as if it was new, so I can't say if gasohol is that bad, my Z1000 is running perfectly on gasohol 95 but I would rather be using 95 Benzine which is a 30km trip to get to the only fuel station which sells it.

[Kwasaki]

I've put 91 gasohol in it once or twice. Attached is what the manual says.

Good information that I'll have a word and put that to the local Thai garage owner then.

Edited March 21, 2012 by Kwasaki

[sparebox2]

E10 or E20 still OK.

Stay away from E85.

[Kwasaki]

Just got the new Honda PCX 150. According to the dealer, this bike can take every sort of petrol, Benzine 91 / 95, Gasohol 91, even E20. Is this at all possible? Would the best bet be Benzine 91 assuming cost is not a real issue? (I would probably do something like 1,000 kms a month compared to my current 2,500 kms per month in my Prius).

Never mind the dealer what does it say in the Honda manual, although I still would bet the dealer is right.

[Kwasaki]

You can use 91 if you can't fine 95 benzine. But I would stay away from gasohol. That stuff doesn't run well at all and someone told me it gums up the engine over time. They also have those gasohol benzine blends I think. Pass on that too. PTT has 91 benzine if you can't find Caltex 95. But I think Shell has nothing but gasohol these days. Just say no to corn!

My Suzuki Skydrive has run on 91 gasohol for 3 yrs and still runs as if it was new, so I can't say if gasohol is that bad, my Z1000 is running perfectly on gasohol 95 but I would rather be using 95 Benzine which is a 30km trip to get to the only fuel station which sells it.

It's all down to design of the engine, as for your Suzuk your answering the own concerns and the Z as well.

I understand your concern for your brand new piece of joy but as I have said before and on your thread.

" We have been through your fuel choice already and you know your ECU will adjust to the fuel available but you know from your manual and tank label already which to use and which is best for your engine design."

My advice would be don't worry about benzine 95 my guess is it will be extinct soon, in an emergency with only 91 benzine being available you will be OK but don't thrash it and get some 95 gasohol added asap. Enjoy.

Edited March 21, 2012 by Kwasaki

[TylerBKK]

Have a look at that page I posted earlier taken from the CBR250R owners manual on the subject of fuel, gasohol, and the use of fuels with alcohol. I think that page explains it well in terms of what the actual issues are with the different types of fuel available. And it seems all the concerns and issues are on the use of anything that isn't pure benzine. I would say the best thing is to stay away from any fuel that is not benzine and you should be safe. The issue of the octane being 91 or 95 is another issue, but not as critical as the type of fuel itself. So 91 benzine is fine when you can't find 95. It's the other types of fuel you should stay away from.