Marriage - What'S At Stake If It Goes Wrong? Uk Man.

[randymarsh]

Not sure what percentage of foreign / thai girl marriages last but it can't be high.

If it does go wrong and ends in divorce, what happens regarding money, assets etc

Sorry if I should know.

Thanks

[MAJIC]

She gets half!

[BookMan]

Do you mean what happens to all the assets that you have been keeping in your Wife's name?

[beano2274]

If you take her to the UK she can stay there, all she has to do is say you were violent towards her. It is not half half as some people suggest, I was left with my clothes in shreds, a cup, KFS and that was about it. (German wife, hungry German Lawyer's advice)

[beano2274]

The OP is in the UK, his Thai GF (of 2 months) is preggers, and he wants her to visit him in the UK.

Best to give all the info, so you get answers, and you will get some funny ones

[randymarsh]

I don't actually have anything but money in the bank which will more than likely have disappeared in a few years anyway.

[Mario2008]

Under Thai law, you split all you acquired during the marriage. (that includes any debts). What you had before the marriage is left out.

There is no alimony in Thailand.

[beano2274]

She will be happy as she will be allowed to stay in the UK.

[beano2274]

Under Thai law, you split all you acquired during the marriage. (that includes any debts). What you had before the marriage is left out.

There is no alimony in Thailand.

The OP is in the UK, so would be under UK Law.

Like I said she claims you were violent she stays in the UK forever, her dream is reality, free NHS for her and the baby, Social Security, and of course maintenance from you which means CSA banging on your door and gaining access to your salary before you get it.....

[randymarsh]

Would marry in Thailand if that makes a difference?

She says I'm violent, I say I'm not?

[beano2274]

Would marry in Thailand if that makes a difference?

She says I'm violent, I say I'm not?

Marriage in Thailand is okay and recognised in the UK.

She just needs to say it and just show any bruise or mark on her (she could do by herself), and that is it, you do not have a leg to stand on, the women are believed. There are posts on here about it but would take you a long time to dig them out.

[randymarsh]

I'll choose not to believe any of this.

[cardholder]

I'll choose not to believe any of this.

Then you are heading for a fall.

There are plenty of posts on TV over the years to support beanos comments

Pointless asking for information if you choose to ignore it.

If she THINKS (states) you are violent , you are fcuked.

[randymarsh]

I'll have a look for some of these posts then.

[cardholder]

I'll have a look for some of these posts then.

I wouldn't waste your time, if you choose not to believe any of them.

[Bangkokhatter]

I'll choose not to believe any of this.

It does not matter if you get married in the UK or Thailand. Both countries will recognise the marriage as long as it was carried legally. The BIG difference is what happens in the event of a divorce. As others have said in The UK you will be subject to the UK laws and you should already know about them, surely you have friends with horror stories to tell ? It does not matter that you may be divorcing a Thai wife or an English one.

It's not quite as bad as some say, for example if you have a house and can prove she did not contribute to it, then you will not lose it all.

If you get your divorce in Thailand then you only split what you made during the marriage and sort out future payments for child maintenance etc.

Why come and ask for advice and then ignore it ?

[Romfordboy]

She will be happy as she will be allowed to stay in the UK.

His comment about ignoring things was probaby a reaction to some of your negative posts

[wellred]

I'll choose not to believe any of this.

It does not matter if you get married in the UK or Thailand. Both countries will recognise the marriage as long as it was carried legally. The BIG difference is what happens in the event of a divorce. As others have said in The UK you will be subject to the UK laws and you should already know about them, surely you have friends with horror stories to tell ? It does not matter that you may be divorcing a Thai wife or an English one.

It's not quite as bad as some say, for example if you have a house and can prove she did not contribute to it, then you will not lose it all.

If you get your divorce in Thailand then you only split what you made during the marriage and sort out future payments for child maintenance etc.

Why come and ask for advice and then ignore it ?

Interesting so if I'm a British citizen and own a property in the UK now which she didn't contribute a penny to, then marry her only up divorce further down the line I would still have 100% claim that property? Do I need to declare that when I marry?

[randymarsh]

I genuinely thought people were taking the piss but maybe it is as bad as it sounds. Not familiar with UK divorce laws really and am young enough to not know anyone who has got divorced, thai or otherwise.

[Bangkokhatter]

I'll choose not to believe any of this.

It does not matter if you get married in the UK or Thailand. Both countries will recognise the marriage as long as it was carried legally. The BIG difference is what happens in the event of a divorce. As others have said in The UK you will be subject to the UK laws and you should already know about them, surely you have friends with horror stories to tell ? It does not matter that you may be divorcing a Thai wife or an English one.

It's not quite as bad as some say, for example if you have a house and can prove she did not contribute to it, then you will not lose it all.

If you get your divorce in Thailand then you only split what you made during the marriage and sort out future payments for child maintenance etc.

Why come and ask for advice and then ignore it ?

Interesting so if I'm a British citizen and own a property in the UK now which she didn't contribute a penny to, then marry her only up divorce further down the line I would still have 100% claim that property? Do I need to declare that when I marry?

It really depends where you get divorced, the reality is if you marry a Thai girl ( not knocking anyone i did it ) and you end up in the UK then you will be divorced under the UK law, if you get divorced in Thailand and bought your house before you were married, then under Thai law she has no claim on your property in the UK.

[Bangkokhatter]

I genuinely thought people were taking the piss but maybe it is as bad as it sounds. Not familiar with UK divorce laws really and am young enough to not know anyone who has got divorced, thai or otherwise.

It's only bad if you are getting divorced, why would you be thinking of marrying someone when your already asking advice about divorce ?

If you need more advice PM me as your sure gonna get slaughtered on here if you reveal the kind of info people need to know to help you

[beano2274]

She will be happy as she will be allowed to stay in the UK.

His comment about ignoring things was probaby a reaction to some of your negative posts

best to say what could happen

[Orac]

She will be happy as she will be allowed to stay in the UK.

His comment about ignoring things was probaby a reaction to some of your negative posts

best to say what could happen

I would have to agree that it is better to be forewarned on some of the issues that may come up.

It is very easy to just see the negative as this is what gets talked about - the many 'good' relationships out there rarely get mentioned. My wife joined me in the UK for a year about 4-5 years back and it it didn't take very long to find a number of Thai ladies living in the area we were in - virtually all of them in reasonable happy, stable relationships.

Be warned though that your wife will almost certainly come it to contact with the 'wrong' sort as well. In the first month of my wife coming to the UK we were invited to a party for some 'influential' Thai ladys 40th birthday at a casino in Sheffield by a friend my wife knew from her village in Thailand. She was taken to one side there by a small group of ladies who explained to her in great detail how the system worked and how she could get to live permanantly in the UK without me and also get a great deal of money off me. Needless to say my wife would have no part of it again and refused to take up future invitations.

[TommoPhysicist]

Interesting so if I'm a British citizen and own a property in the UK now which she didn't contribute a penny to, then marry her only up divorce further down the line I would still have 100% claim that property? Do I need to declare that when I marry?

If you have a child with her and she is in the UK, she will get the house, you will be prevented from even walking down the street the house is in. A common outcome in the UK when the woman plays the 'violence' card.

USA, Canada and Australia are the same.

[harleyclarkey]

Marriage in Thailand is okay and recognised in the UK.

She just needs to say it and just show any bruise or mark on her (she could do by herself), and that is it, you do not have a leg to stand on, the women are believed. There are posts on here about it but would take you a long time to dig them out.

You are right.

It is so bloody biased against the man. She just has to walk in to a door, get a bruise, go to the cops and hey presto...you are in the nick and she's in court getting a barring order.

They meanwhile can do your head in with emotional abuse. Really screw you up. You go to the cops and they tell you to cop on, relax and go have a pint.

In the USA they recognise emotional abuse as serious and as damaging as physical abuse. ( I stand to be corrected from some of our US friends here).

It is a shambles. And a very unjust one at that. I never ever touched my ex..thank god. But I know of many unfortunates who have been wrongly accused.

[Boo]

In UK, claims of spousal violence have to be backed up with police report, photographic evidence & medical report. Suggest you ask for advice from an actual legal expert on the "what if" scenarios.

[TommoPhysicist]

In UK, claims of spousal violence have to be backed up with police report, photographic evidence & medical report. Suggest you ask for advice from an actual legal expert on the "what if" scenarios.

Not true, UK family courts are instructed to believe the woman as part of an ongoing 'crack down' on domestic violence.

Mental cruelty is also considered domestic violence, police report, yes, photograph, no, medical report, no.

(How would you photograph mental cruelty?)

UK family court is held in secret and does not rely or or require physical evidence, but on the word of the woman.

Don't believe me, then I suggest you ask a solicitor in the UK.

I would suggest you have never attended a UK family court, unlike many British men who post on this forum.

Although, I can understand your inexperienced opinion, it's entirely understandable, until I had attended family court myself, I would have said the same as you.

[Boo]

I have attended family court, I also have met police in the family as well as solicitors who work family cases & one who works child cases exclusively. The advice of strangers, many of them bitter over ex wives or gf's in the west are not the most balanced opinions to seek. Better he speak to legal experts in his own country to find out the whys & wherefores of the "what if" scenarios if they happen.

[TommoPhysicist]

I have attended family court, I also have met police in the family as well as solicitors who work family cases & one who works child cases exclusively. The advice of strangers, many of them bitter over ex wives or gf's in the west are not the most balanced opinions to seek. Better he speak to legal experts in his own country to find out the whys & wherefores of the "what if" scenarios if they happen.

Rubbish!

Family court in the UK is secret, you can't attend unless you are part of it (accuser/accused/staff).

A witness can attend, but only during their testimony and that is very rare.

Rare mainly because if any real evidence exists, it will be referred to the magistrates court where rules of evidence apply.

[Boo]

oh dear, don't get your knickers in a twist.

As far as I know, you don't know me & know nothing about what I have or haven't seen so calm yourself.

My advice to the op is sound. To get actual legal advice rather than asking posters who can only provide their own version of events & quite often harbor bitterness to ex partners in the west which cloud their judgment.