Extension Of Retirement

[ShodomonRules]

I have a NON-IMM, multiple entry visa extension based on retirement. It expires on May 12th.

I have a receipt of notification that requires me to report April 7th.

I left the country, returned on March 27. The immigration officer said I had to report May 12th, not April 7th.

Question ONE: If I remember correctly, this is true. Leaving the country nullifies the April 7th date?

Question TWO: If I report on May 11th, will I get a 90 day extension? Or will I need to go to BKK---before that date--- for the financial statement to be notarized at the U.S. Embassy, and start anew?

Thanks!

Oh, Trat immigration was a breeze. I am now travelling. I am in Nakhon Si Thammarat and I hear the office here is not going by the rules? Anyone?

[Mario2008]

Leaving the country resets the 90 day clock. You only report if you saty for 90 days in a row in Thailand, which you didn't Your new 90 day report is due 90 days after you re-entered Thailand.

The officer was probably kind enough to remind you that you have to go for you extension of stay before the 12th.

But is is not entirely sure what you have. You either have a mutiple non-immirgant visa that is still valid. Than you can stay for up to 90 days a time in Thailand before you have to leave. So you would not do 90 day reporting.

Or you have a 1 year extension of stay from immigration, than you do 90 day reporting. At immigration they would give you a new 1 year extension of stay if you go before the 12th, with the notarized stament.

90 day reporting is seperate from your permission to stay.

[ShodomonRules]

Leaving the country resets the 90 day clock. You only report if you saty for 90 days in a row in Thailand, which you didn't Your new 90 day report is due 90 days after you re-entered Thailand.

The officer was probably kind enough to remind you that you have to go for you extension of stay before the 12th.

But is is not entirely sure what you have. You either have a mutiple non-immirgant visa that is still valid. Than you can stay for up to 90 days a time in Thailand before you have to leave. So you would not do 90 day reporting.

Or you have a 1 year extension of stay from immigration, than you do 90 day reporting. At immigration they would give you a new 1 year extension of stay if you go before the 12th, with the notarized stament.

90 day reporting is seperate from your permission to stay.

Well, the big "block" stamp says:

NON-IMM

IMMIGRATION THAILAND RE-ENTRY PERMIT

The smaller stamp, just writing, no block, says:

TRAT Immigration Office

Extension of stay permitted up to 2 May 2012.

I have always been required to report every 90 days. I thought that these "One Year" visas were effectively 15 months if you reported before the last 90 day period ended, because on day 364, they give you one last extension before having to start the process over.

Is that not correct, Mario?

I was looking to milk it for that extra 90 days, to the 15 month point, before I had to travel to Bangkok....was that never the case, or has something changed?

Thanks!

[Mario2008]

A multiple non-immirgant visa is valid for 1 year, meaning that each time during that 1 year from date of issue you travel to thailand you can stay for up to 90 days, leave and can re-enter and get a new 90 day. By leaving and re-entering just before the visa expires you can get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months out of it.

You are on an extension of stay, that is for 1 year. Your visa itself is probably is invalid now. The extension of stay is for 1 year and than you can renew it again for 1 year.

90 day reporting is to inform immigration of your current address, not for an extension of stay.

[ShodomonRules]

A multiple non-immirgant visa is valid for 1 year, meaning that each time during that 1 year from date of issue you travel to thailand you can stay for up to 90 days, leave and can re-enter and get a new 90 day. By leaving and re-entering just before the visa expires you can get a new 90 days and so almost 15 months out of it.

You are on an extension of stay, that is for 1 year. Your visa itself is probably is invalid now. The extension of stay is for 1 year and than you can renew it again for 1 year.

90 day reporting is to inform immigration of your current address, not for an extension of stay.

Okay, now we're on the same page. My extension was for one year. Every 90 days was to let them know where I am, not to extend. Got it.

Says it's valid until May 2nd.

So, can I can not just stop in at an immigration office before then for another 90 days. I need to leave the country for that, right?

If I need to leave, I might as well go to Bangkok and the embassy and get a new one year extension.

Thanks, Mario.

[TerryLH]

"So, can I can not just stop in at an immigration office before then for another 90 days."

No.

" Ineed to leave the country for that, right?"

No. Prior to your extension expiring you need to get the letter from your embassy, assuming that's how you prove financials, then go to immigration for a one year extension. One year, not 90 days.

[partington]

What's more, if you did leave the country , you would not get a 90 days extension by coming back in because you don't have have a current visa any more.

If you left and came back after May 12th you would be on a visa waiver allowing you to stay for 30 days only (unless you had applied for and got , a completely new visa outside the country), and would have to do your entire waiver to non O conversion then retirement extension application all over again, from scratch!

[Mario2008]

Just go to your embassy and get the income letter from them. Then visit immirgation to get a 1 year extension of stay. You can do that up to 30 days before your current permisison ends and they will give you a 1 year extension from May 2nd anyway, so you don't lose any days.

There is no 90 day extension, only a 1 year extension.

[ShodomonRules]

Thanks, everyone.

[TerryLH]

If you plan on traveling out of the country don't forget to get a new re-entry permit after you get the new extension.

That will allow you to leave and re-enter, keeping the current permission to stay date alive.

[kraxlhuber]

Have read somewhere in TV, that you cannot give the immigration a 90 day notice of stay by mail if you have travelled outside Thailand.

The post by a member (somewhere in Yellow tabian baan) stated, that you must go personnally to the immigration and make your 90 day report.

Reason I believe is that you not have permanently stayed in Thailand during the 1 year visa and resided here.

I might be wrong with my opinion.

[Mario2008]

never had any problem doing my 90 day report by mail after traveling outside of Thailand.

[lopburi3]

You can not do by mail if you have failed to report on time is the only restriction that I am aware of (or loss of documents).

[kraxlhuber]

Leaving the country resets the 90 day clock. You only report if you saty for 90 days in a row in Thailand, which you didn't Your new 90 day report is due 90 days after you re-entered Thailand.

The officer was probably kind enough to remind you that you have to go for you extension of stay before the 12th.

But is is not entirely sure what you have. You either have a mutiple non-immirgant visa that is still valid. Than you can stay for up to 90 days a time in Thailand before you have to leave. So you would not do 90 day reporting.

Or you have a 1 year extension of stay from immigration, than you do 90 day reporting. At immigration they would give you a new 1 year extension of stay if you go before the 12th, with the notarized stament.

90 day reporting is seperate from your permission to stay.

Can you pls explain the term < notarized statement>?

My retirement visa expires in September 2012, I will need to make a extension.

Do I still have to proof the 800 000 Baht (3 month in the account) with a letter from the bank and the savingsbook.

My embassy is not issuing again for me a letter of residence, as they need proof where I stay.

The last 5 years they had issued for me such a letter.

Have a house, I am married and have Thai wife and 2 kids.

In my passport the place of residence is in a european country.

Now I have applied for a Yellow tabian baan book as proof where I reside in Thailand.

Its quite a lot of hassle to get such a book. Cost me for all the translations and certification from the embassy and Ministry of Foreign Affairs, about 7000 baht.

Was all done by a translation agency here in Chiang Rai

What other documents do I have to show for an 1 year retirement visa extension?

[kraxlhuber]

You can not do by mail if you have failed to report on time is the only restriction that I am aware of (or loss of documents).

thank's

[kraxlhuber]

never had any problem doing my 90 day report by mail after traveling outside of Thailand.

what do I have to send by mail for a 90 day report, guess must be by EMS ?

[kraxlhuber]

You can not do by mail if you have failed to report on time is the only restriction that I am aware of (or loss of documents).

like the receipt of notification stapled into your passport.

When reentering Thailand, that receipt is out of date anyway, has a red stamp on it saying when you have to notify your next 90 days stay.

If you arrive at the airport , on the TM 6 is stamped when you arrived.

On the page of the Reentry visa is also a stamp which shows how long your visa is valid and you are permitted to stay.

I am jumping forum post's now.

A Yellow Tabian Book could be used as proof of residency for the 90 days reporting?

[lopburi3]

Normally no proof is required for 90 day address reporting after making the first report.

Notarized statement refers to Embassy letter of income if using that for extension of stay. Using bank deposit requires passbook/account at 800k for 3 months/letter from bank of account balance.

[Mario2008]

never had any problem doing my 90 day report by mail after traveling outside of Thailand.

what do I have to send by mail for a 90 day report, guess must be by EMS ?

Report by registered mail so you have a receipt of sending it:

1. Copy of all passport pages (up to the latest arrival stamp in the Kingdom or latest visa stamp)
   
2. Copy of arrival/departure card TM.6 (front and back)
   
3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any)
   
4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47
   
5. Envelope with 10 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days.
   
6. The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner.
   Send the mail before the renewal date 7 days to the local immigration office
   

[kraxlhuber]

never had any problem doing my 90 day report by mail after traveling outside of Thailand.

what do I have to send by mail for a 90 day report, guess must be by EMS ?

Report by registered mail so you have a receipt of sending it:

1. Copy of all passport pages (up to the latest arrival stamp in the Kingdom or latest visa stamp)
   
2. Copy of arrival/departure card TM.6 (front and back)
   
3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any)
   
4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47
   
5. Envelope with 10 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days.
   
6. The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner.
   Send the mail before the renewal date 7 days to the local immigration office
   

Mario,

this post reply is certainly clearyfying a lot of open questions by many TV members/readers alike.

In my case, THANK YOU.