DrChopper Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 This is NOT intended to be another rant thread, if it turns out that way please close it Roo. I understand BA's ownership of Samui, Sukhothai & Trat airports. But I understand that they are also the only operator flying BKK - Siem Reap. Given that they don't own this airport how have they achieved that position? Bitching and moaning comments not required, it's a genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 it is the commercial decision of Bangkok Airways to fly there. Other companies have decided not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 It's not just a commercial decision, but another foresight & monopoly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siem_Reap_International_Airport Look at the link. There are many airlines that fly there. One is Air Asia that fly from KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChopper Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 Stanley, I'm pretty certain other airlines, specifically AirAsia would fly BKK - Siem Reap if they could, but I gather they can't. Roo, foresight indeed, any idea how they secured exclusivity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) Siem Reap International Airport Airlines and destinations AeroCambodia Domestic-Cambodia AirAsia Kuala Lumpur Asiana Airlines Seoul-Incheon Bangkok Airways Bangkok-Suvarnabhumi Cambodia Angkor Air Ho Chi Minh City, Phnom Penh, Sihanoukville Cebu Pacific Manila China Eastern Airlines Shanghai, Kunming China Southern Airlines Guangzhou Far Eastern Air Transport Charter: Taipei-Taoyuan Jetstar Asia Singapore Korean Air Busan, Seoul-Incheon Lao Airlines Luang Prabang, Pakse, Vientiane Malaysia Airlines Kuala Lumpur Myanmar Airways International Phnom Penh, Yangon - (Currently suspended) SilkAir Da Nang, Singapore Tonlesap Airlines Ningbo, Kaohsiung, Taipei-Taoyuan T'way Airlines Seoul-Incheon Vietnam Airlines Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh City, Luang Prabang Edited June 2, 2012 by PoorSucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChopper Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Ok to clarify I am not asking for a list of airlines who fly into Siem Reap, or a list of destination that you to can travel there from. I am asking 'they are also the only operator flying BKK - Siem Reap' I'm not bothered other points of origin. They have a monopoly on this route, but don't own the airport - my question is how have they gained that position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 http://www.alternativeairlines.com/siem-reap-to-replace-bangkok-airways-on-tourist-route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Ok to clarify I am not asking for a list of airlines who fly into Siem Reap, or a list of destination that you to can travel there from. I am asking 'they are also the only operator flying BKK - Siem Reap' I'm not bothered other points of origin. They have a monopoly on this route, but don't own the airport - my question is how have they gained that position? Bribes? No that does not exist here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChopper Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 Guess it is that simple. Found reference somewhere that this route and the old SR-PP that they had date from an agreement with an old Cambodian Prime Minister. Like him or loathe him, you can't deny Mr BkkAir is a smart old boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 it is the commercial decision of Bangkok Airways to fly there. Other companies have decided not to if bangkok airways are buying all private airports then why are other airlines not catching on? Thailand seems to be manoloply parradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorade Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I think that there is a share agreement with Siem Reap Airlines. They are BKK airways aircraft but have 'Siem Reap Airlines' painted on the side of the aircraft. This agreement would give them the required rights to operate there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 An agreement between Hun Sen and Bangkok Airways in 1997 gave the rights to Bangkok Air and Cambodia's national carrier to fly between and Siem Reap and bagkok. Siem Reap Airways was the national carrier for Cambodia until it basically went bust. It use to fly Bangkok to Siem Reap. The national carrier for Cambodia is now Cambodia Angkor Air ( CAA ) This company is 51% Cambodian government and 49% Vietnam Airlines. At the beginning of 2011 there was hope that CAA would also fly BKK to Siem Reap route. The are a number of articles on the net stating this. This link is one http://khmernz.blogspot.com/2011/02/end-to-bangkok-airs-monopoly-is-welcome.html To this date they have not. They fly domestically in Cambodia and to Ho Chi Minh City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindle Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 An agreement between Hun Sen and Bangkok Airways in 1997 gave the rights to Bangkok Air and Cambodia's national carrier to fly between and Siem Reap and bagkok. Siem Reap Airways was the national carrier for Cambodia until it basically went bust. It use to fly Bangkok to Siem Reap. The national carrier for Cambodia is now Cambodia Angkor Air ( CAA ) This company is 51% Cambodian government and 49% Vietnam Airlines. At the beginning of 2011 there was hope that CAA would also fly BKK to Siem Reap route. The are a number of articles on the net stating this. .This link is one http://khmernz.blogspot.com/2011/02/end-to-bangkok-airs-monopoly-is-welcome.html To this date they have not. They fly domestically in Cambodia and to Ho Chi Minh City. According to Google, Siem Reap Airlines are a wholly owned subsidiary of Bangkok Airways and operate to Siem Reap and Phom Penh. As stated in my previous post many of the BA aircraft carry the SR insignia but keep the Thai registration. They have not gone bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 An agreement between Hun Sen and Bangkok Airways in 1997 gave the rights to Bangkok Air and Cambodia's national carrier to fly between and Siem Reap and bagkok. Siem Reap Airways was the national carrier for Cambodia until it basically went bust. It use to fly Bangkok to Siem Reap. The national carrier for Cambodia is now Cambodia Angkor Air ( CAA ) This company is 51% Cambodian government and 49% Vietnam Airlines. At the beginning of 2011 there was hope that CAA would also fly BKK to Siem Reap route. The are a number of articles on the net stating this. .This link is one http://khmernz.blogspot.com/2011/02/end-to-bangkok-airs-monopoly-is-welcome.html To this date they have not. They fly domestically in Cambodia and to Ho Chi Minh City. According to Google, Siem Reap Airlines are a wholly owned subsidiary of Bangkok Airways and operate to Siem Reap and Phom Penh. As stated in my previous post many of the BA aircraft carry the SR insignia but keep the Thai registration. They have not gone bust. Read what this link states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siem_Reap_Airways_International Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindle Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 An agreement between Hun Sen and Bangkok Airways in 1997 gave the rights to Bangkok Air and Cambodia's national carrier to fly between and Siem Reap and bagkok. Siem Reap Airways was the national carrier for Cambodia until it basically went bust. It use to fly Bangkok to Siem Reap. The national carrier for Cambodia is now Cambodia Angkor Air ( CAA ) This company is 51% Cambodian government and 49% Vietnam Airlines. At the beginning of 2011 there was hope that CAA would also fly BKK to Siem Reap route. The are a number of articles on the net stating this. .This link is one http://khmernz.blogspot.com/2011/02/end-to-bangkok-airs-monopoly-is-welcome.html To this date they have not. They fly domestically in Cambodia and to Ho Chi Minh City. According to Google, Siem Reap Airlines are a wholly owned subsidiary of Bangkok Airways and operate to Siem Reap and Phom Penh. As stated in my previous post many of the BA aircraft carry the SR insignia but keep the Thai registration. They have not gone bust. Read what this link states http://en.wikipedia....s_International Accepting the fact that this subject is probably only of interests to Dr. C whom I think has had his original question answered, and without wishing to prolong it any more ....try tapping up SR Airlines on the net, you can make a booking today. It will however be operated by BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marstons Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Think Trat can be added to the list as well, another built by BKK Airways to service Koh Chang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Do not forget that BA also own Sukhothai Airport http://www2.bangkokair.com/en/at-the-airport/airport/sukhothai.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChopper Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 From OP; 'I understand BA's ownership of Samui, Sukhothai & Trat airports.' I have no great issue with an airline benefitting from building an airport (despite it being a pain in the arse). Sure I have senn that Bkk Air have scaled down or even stopped their USM-trat route. Shows that it doesn't always make a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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