WorkingTourist Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Can someone help me understand the term: “lak len-len”? I assume it is something like not being serious about the relationship (just having fun), but to what degree? Like, I love you, but not enough to marry you and have kids, or more like I’m horny and just need someone to fondle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It means that she was joking (about something). To what extent , well that;s your call... We'd need more context here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingTourist Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 We'd need more context here.... My girlfriend asks if I “lak len-len”. For her this is clearly a term with a predefined meaning, not based on context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 She's asking if you're serious dude.. I don't know your lass but seems like she's seeking some affirmation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) รักเล่นๆ rak len len It means Love for a short time then separate forever. You could use it to describe a holiday romance. literal translation 'Love play play' It's actually RAK = love, but with a regional accent to make it sound like LAK Edited July 15, 2012 by TommoPhysicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 T It means Love you for a short time then separate forever. literally 'Love play play' It's actually RAK = love, but with a regional accent to make it sound like LAK No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) No it doesn't. Mate, my wife is sitting here beside me correcting my spelling ("don't forget mai ek over law ling, darling") I think she knows what it means. Mr. WorkingTourist is being asked by his gf if she is just a holiday romance for him. Edited July 15, 2012 by TommoPhysicist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 She;s wrong. It's a question asking f you're for real. Don't hide behind the wife pal. I've had this 20 or 30 times here. It is translated as "are you for real?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingTourist Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 OK, should probably have mentioned I know the words that make up the phrase. Some more context: My girlfriend (turning 24 this year) has said she don’t want to marry or have kids (and I have stressed there is no such future with me), she has also said that she thinks I will be bored of her after awhile, but she will enjoy it while it lasts (will be sad for a few days when it ends, go see her Buddha, and then move on). It’s of course impossible for me to know if she actually means this, anyway, she stills ask if I “lak len-len” (yeah, I write it ‘lak’ because that is how everyone I speak with pronounce it ), and from the way she asks, I am quite sure that if I tell her ‘yes’ she will be very sad. I am inclined to tell her yes (as I don’t want to lead her on, or have her “waste” her time with me, if she is looking for something serious), but I believe that this has already been indicated, so I wonder if “lak len-len” might have another meaning than just the “enjoying it while it lasts”, as I do really like the girl in the way that makes me happy to spend time with her (not just in the bed), and wouldn’t want to make her think otherwise by using the wrong term to describe my feelings. Perhaps ‘lak len-len’ is a region-specific term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think HD has been HDing a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Well "Lak" is also a colloquialism for one's knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kananga Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think HD has been HDing a bit too much. I doubt he's anymore a real heavy drinker than you are a real physicist. It means you are asking someone if they really love you or just want to play around. In other words asking if you're for real, like HD pointed out. For the record, the pronunciation of lak rather than rak isn't down to a regional accent, you find the correct pronunciation of ร replaced with the easier although technically incorrect ล among the lower classes all over the kingdom irrespective of any particular region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think his "wife" has told him to go to bobos and to stop being silly....or his 3 bottles of "Porch Leo" has dried up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 For the record, the pronunciation of lak rather than rak isn't down to a regional accent, you find the correct pronunciation of ร replaced with the easier although technically incorrect ล among the lower classes all over the kingdom irrespective of any particular region. I thought the south kept the /r/ very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingTourist Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 A friend of my gf translated it to “lie for love” — not that this makes me understand it, but it seems to be pretty negative and not just “having a good time w/o being really serious”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrya Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Can we just call "รักเล่น ๆ" flirting? I don't think it means lie for love, it is flirting, a term for a not too serious, loose relation involving sex with no obligations after all. Anyway, I am going to ask my wife later. Edited July 16, 2012 by garrya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 A friend of my gf translated it to “lie for love” — not that this makes me understand it, but it seems to be pretty negative and not just “having a good time w/o being really serious”. Lie for love would be rak log log - a deceitful form of love, saying you love someone but not meaning it, maybe to get to next base. Rak len len is similar to a fling. Rak jing jing true love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingTourist Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Lie for love would be rak log log - a deceitful form of love, saying you love someone but not meaning it, maybe to get to next base. Rak len len is similar to a fling. Rak jing jing true love. Thanks, turns out she means ‘rak log log’ (and claims it’s the same as ‘rak len len’). Can I have you spell ‘rak log log’ for me? Unfamiliar with the word ‘log’ and can’t find it in my dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 หลอก maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 รักหลอกๆ maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 What a great little dscussion in this forum. From a non Thai linguist it appears that there can be many interpretations of the language. I will be trying to learn the language in a couple of months after our son is born. i will asking for a lot of advice. I know I will get good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kananga Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 What a great little dscussion in this forum. From a non Thai linguist it appears that there can be many interpretations of the language. I will be trying to learn the language in a couple of months after our son is born. i will asking for a lot of advice. I know I will get good advice. as well as bad. Just beware any sentence that starts with "My wife says" or "I asked my wife" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 or "I asked my mate's wife". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) What a great little dscussion in this forum. From a non Thai linguist it appears that there can be many interpretations of the language. I will be trying to learn the language in a couple of months after our son is born. i will asking for a lot of advice. I know I will get good advice. as well as bad. Just beware any sentence that starts with "My wife says" or "I asked my wife" It's gonna get even worse soon, when I marry my sister-in-law, I'll have two of them looking over my shoulder and offering opinions. Then I'll be typing 'my older wife says' then 'my younger wife says' Edited July 16, 2012 by TommoPhysicist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrya Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 What a great little dscussion in this forum. From a non Thai linguist it appears that there can be many interpretations of the language. I will be trying to learn the language in a couple of months after our son is born. i will asking for a lot of advice. I know I will get good advice. as well as bad. Just beware any sentence that starts with "My wife says" or "I asked my wife" Why? Are they not capable of handling simple language issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 What a great little dscussion in this forum. From a non Thai linguist it appears that there can be many interpretations of the language. I will be trying to learn the language in a couple of months after our son is born. i will asking for a lot of advice. I know I will get good advice. as well as bad. Just beware any sentence that starts with "My wife says" or "I asked my wife" Why? Are they not capable of handling simple language issues? Ask three Thais the same question and you may end up with three different answers. As for "Are they not capable of handling simple language issues?", depends on how good the girls English is, we only need to look at some of the replies on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thai Wify.... tells me its is 'Butterfly Love' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kananga Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 What a great little dscussion in this forum. From a non Thai linguist it appears that there can be many interpretations of the language. I will be trying to learn the language in a couple of months after our son is born. i will asking for a lot of advice. I know I will get good advice. as well as bad. Just beware any sentence that starts with "My wife says" or "I asked my wife" Why? Are they not capable of handling simple language issues? Obviously not if they have to ask their wives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Simple language issues? I live in Chiang Mai... Thai word for delicious - 'Lam' Wify comes from Khon Kaen - Thai 'Issan' word for delicicious - 'Sap' Bangkok - Thai word for delicicious - 'Alloy' I could go on and on but that is not my point.. You may learn 'Central Thai Language' but if you move to the provinces - you better be prepared to expand your scope. The nearest and dearest is one of the greatest resources if you are receptive and prepared to learn and be receptive. I think that it is called a 'Learning Curve'. Good luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kananga Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Simple language issues? I live in Chiang Mai... Thai word for delicious - 'Lam' Wify comes from Khon Kaen - Thai 'Issan' word for delicicious - 'Sap' Bangkok - Thai word for delicicious - 'Alloy' I could go on and on but that is not my point.. You may learn 'Central Thai Language' but if you move to the provinces - you better be prepared to expand your scope. The nearest and dearest is one of the greatest resources if you are receptive and prepared to learn and be receptive. I think that it is called a 'Learning Curve'. Good luck Correct pronunciation is aroi, not alloy (see reply #12). See, it's never simple. Edited July 18, 2012 by Kananga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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