Farang Manual Laborers In C.M.?

[elektrified]

A little while ago I needed to turn into the parking lot of the original Big C at the very end of the Super Highway to go under and make the turn-around. I noticed they were constructing a children's amusement park - water park kind of thing with big slides and so forth; all filled with air. They are setting it up near the car park that is seldom used. The laborers doing all the work were blond-haired farangs. Unusual? Legal?

[uptheos]

Probably want to make sure it doesn't all fall down as it's for kids.

[DaBloodyMess]

water park kind of thing with big slides and so forth; all filled with air

From your description it sounds like quite specialised equipment, and thus probably not made by a local company.

The laborers doing all the work were blond-haired farangs. Unusual? Legal?

Thus my natural assumption would be a western company has won a tender to provide the equipment and install it (and also possibly maintain it in the future). So without knowing any details I would think its legal. I doubt you have labourers champing at the bit to get over to Thailand and work illegally.

[eyecatcher]

I stopped by today after reading this thread; parked up and watched two of said blonde farangs. One was digging a hole, the other would follow behind him and fill the hole in, one after the other.

After 20 minutes I decided to ask them, why one digs and the other fills in. he said yes I suppose it does look a bit odd, because we are normally a 3 man team.

But today the guy who plants the trees called in sick… ONLY JOKING!

[elektrified]

water park kind of thing with big slides and so forth; all filled with air

From your description it sounds like quite specialised equipment, and thus probably not made by a local company.

The laborers doing all the work were blond-haired farangs. Unusual? Legal?

Thus my natural assumption would be a western company has won a tender to provide the equipment and install it (and also possibly maintain it in the future). So without knowing any details I would think its legal. I doubt you have labourers champing at the bit to get over to Thailand and work illegally.

It's one of those kind of things they set up weekly at the walking street market behind the other Big C (former Carrefour) and at other places around Thailand. It will not be maintained in the future as it is only a temporary kind of thing (large slides filled with air for kids to climb up and slide down, things that float on water that the kids play with, etc.)

[Pond Life]

If you are that concerned why don't you just call immigration & dobb them in.

[Sharp]

Nasty

[barefoot1988]

they were the site engineers

[elektrified]

If you are that concerned why don't you just call immigration & dobb them in.

Figures someone would come up with something like that.

[thrilled]

They had to say engineers or something to that effect.

Foreigners can't do manual labor in Thailand.

Same as A farang that own's a bar.Legally he can't sweep the floor.He has to hire someone to

do it,or has his better half do the job.

[Beetlejuice]

This is probably a project set up by some children’s charitable organisation and the farangs could have been voluntary workers, working for free with work permits.

Farangs are permitted to do voluntary work, especially if it`s a charitable project with Government approval. This is quite common in Bangkok.

[JeffreyMcCollum]

They had to say engineers or something to that effect.

Foreigners can't do manual labor in Thailand.

Same as A farang that own's a bar.Legally he can't sweep the floor.He has to hire someone to

do it,or has his better half do the job.

There are many Foreigners that live in Thailand as well as Chiang Mai. Not all of them are over 50 and not all are retired. Some have a wife and kids. Some work, some work for others,

Yes there is a list of some 20 jobs in Thailand foregners are not allowed to do, but many jobs are hands on jobs. Most of us do have work permits, But yes I am sure there are some that do not.

And yes, many jobs are hands on labor jobs that we can do legally in Thailand

I can sweep floors, clean toilets, or do other hands on things, labor, my employer may ask or require me to do.

[Pond Life]

If you are that concerned why don't you just call immigration & dobb them in.

Nasty

It was not intended to be nasty, it was intended to be sarcastic.

By making the OP on an open forum, attention has been drawn to these guys.

How would other forum members feel if someone saw you (any of us) painting your house,

Then posted up here your location for a visit from an overzealous Immigration Officer.

Think before dropping someone in the shit, its not like they were beating up old ladies.

[CMSteve]

There was a fair/amusement park set up next to Kad Suan Kaew a few months back run by an English company. All of the machine operators were foreigners(blonde hair / blue eyes). The game operators were not Thai either(guessing Filipino), but could pass for Thai as long as you don't speak to them.

[CMNightRider]

If you are that concerned why don't you just call immigration & dobb them in.

What does "dobb" mean?

[onthedarkside]

tattling, snitching, telling on someone ...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dobbing

[CMNightRider]

tattling, snitching, telling on someone ...

http://www.urbandict...hp?term=Dobbing

Thank you Darth Sidious. I thought the number 2 definition was interesting as well. I would certainly hope there isn't any "dobbing" going on in this forum.

[KhunVee]

They had to say engineers or something to that effect.

Foreigners can't do manual labor in Thailand.

Same as A farang that own's a bar.Legally he can't sweep the floor.He has to hire someone to

do it,or has his better half do the job.

There are many Foreigners that live in Thailand as well as Chiang Mai. Not all of them are over 50 and not all are retired. Some have a wife and kids. Some work, some work for others,

Yes there is a list of some 20 jobs in Thailand foregners are not allowed to do, but many jobs are hands on jobs. Most of us do have work permits, But yes I am sure there are some that do not.

And yes, many jobs are hands on labor jobs that we can do legally in Thailand

I can sweep floors, clean toilets, or do other hands on things, labor, my employer may ask or require me to do.

Exactly.

There are too many misconceptions and even more, a lot of "Urban-Legends" about this topic.

Please, do tell me which law forbids me to sweep the floor, change a light bulb, or even paint a wall in my own (legit) factory????

Edited July 24, 2012 by KhunVee

[Tywais]

Please, do tell me which law forbids me to sweep the floor, change a light bulb, or even paint a wall in my own (legit) factory????

The one that says you can't do work that a Thai can do. Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

[khwaibah]

What jobs that foreigners are not allowed to do?

Foreigners are not allowed to do the following jobs:

[1]. Work of labor except skilled labor in fishery;

[2]. Work of agriculture such as raising animals, forestry, fishery, except skilled work;

[3]. Brick laying, carpentry, and other kinds of construction.

[4]. Wood carving;

[5]. Driving vehicles except flying airplanes;

[6]. Selling goods in a shop;

[7]. Auctioneering;

[8]. Auditing except provisional interior audit;

[9]. Grinding and polishing jewelry;

[10]. Barber, hair waving, and making up beauty

[11]. Waving cloth by hands;

[12]. Utensil making;

[13]. Paper work by hand;

[14]. Lacquer-ware making;

[15]. Making Thai musical instrument;

[16]. Niello-ware;

[17]. Gold-smith, silver-smith, bronze-smith;

[18]. Making brass ware;

[19]. Making Thai dolls;

[20]. Making mattresses and blanket;

[21]. Making monk’s bowls;

[22]. Making Thai silk by hand;

[23]. Making images of Buddha;

[24]. Being a black smith;

[25]. Making umbrellas from paper or cloth;

[26]. Weaving cloth;

[27]. Hat making;

[28]. Being an agent or broker except those in connection with international including giving advice;

[29]. Work concerning engineering of all branches but not including expert;

[30]. Works of architecture in all branches including giving advice;

[31]. Work of making human dresses;

[32]. Work of pottery;

[33]. Making cigarettes by hands;

[34]. Work of guiding and tourism;

[35]. Work of selling things by carrying around;

[36]. Making silk by hands;

[37]. Clerical silk by hands;

[38]. Work of legal services and litigation except;

[a]. work of arbitration;

. work of representing a party in an arbitration case in case of using foreign law or enforcement of the arbitration award is to be made on the outside of Thailand.

Please, do tell me which law forbids me to sweep the floor, change a light bulb, or even paint a wall in my own (legit) factory????

The one that says you can't do work that a Thai can do. Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

[KhunVee]

Please, do tell me which law forbids me to sweep the floor, change a light bulb, or even paint a wall in my own (legit) factory????

The one that says you can't do work that a Thai can do. Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

Keeping the legends alive at all cost huh?

So what you're saying is that the Thais gave me a false WP?

Because my job description stated on my WP isn't exactly Rocket-Science.

There are plenty of Thais that can do what I do.

So your argument makes no sense at all.

There is no such law and you know it.

There is indeed a list of "occupations" or "activities" that prohibits Foreigners to perform. (See post above from:

khwaibah)

But that's basically it.

All the rest is regulated under the Foreign Business Act, and when you comply with this first,... you can do almost anything.

Edited July 24, 2012 by KhunVee

[eyecatcher]

If you are that concerned why don't you just call immigration & dobb them in.

Figures someone would come up with something like that.

Again I am suggesting the American citizens amongst us completely missing the English humoUr here. Its sarcasm guys; sarcasm.

I had almost forgotten that expression "dobb them in"

[CMSteve]

Yes, definitely no rocket scientist... Please go back and re-read the post the you so dutifully quoted.

Please feel free to publicly post your apology and recognition of your mistake.

Please, do tell me which law forbids me to sweep the floor, change a light bulb, or even paint a wall in my own (legit) factory????

The one that says you can't do work that a Thai can do. Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

Keeping the legends alive at all cost huh?

So what you're saying is that the Thais gave me a false WP?

Because my job description stated on my WP isn't exactly Rocket-Science.

There are plenty of Thais that can do what I do.

So your argument makes no sense at all.

There is no such law and you know it.

There is indeed a list of "occupations" or "activities" that prohibits Foreigners to perform. (See post above from:

khwaibah)

But that's basically it.

All the rest is regulated under the Foreign Business Act, and when you comply with this first,... you can do almost anything.

[KhunVee]

Yes, definitely no rocket scientist... Please go back and re-read the post the you so dutifully quoted.

Please feel free to publicly post your apology and recognition of your mistake.

Please, do tell me which law forbids me to sweep the floor, change a light bulb, or even paint a wall in my own (legit) factory????

The one that says you can't do work that a Thai can do. Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

Keeping the legends alive at all cost huh?

So what you're saying is that the Thais gave me a false WP?

Because my job description stated on my WP isn't exactly Rocket-Science.

There are plenty of Thais that can do what I do.

So your argument makes no sense at all.

There is no such law and you know it.

There is indeed a list of "occupations" or "activities" that prohibits Foreigners to perform. (See post above from:

khwaibah)

But that's basically it.

All the rest is regulated under the Foreign Business Act, and when you comply with this first,... you can do almost anything.

Sarcasm can be interpreted in many ways (if that's what you mean, I'm not sure, I'm not that smart, maybe yes? Maybe no? Please clarify, but don't use difficult words) so I give my response based on MY interpretation.

Therefore, I see no reason for an apology whatsoever and certainly not at your command.

[eyecatcher]

I was surprised not to see cook/food prep on that list, that was always something I used to highlight to others about what they are probably not allowed to do........must come into the skilled category.

And cannot do any construction work, hmmm, interesting they dont highlight "skilled only" so you have to realise that no building has been built with skill. can you believe that?

[eyecatcher]

I am as guilty as anyone of profound sarcasm, which in fairness is the lowest form of wit (so they say) but it is mainly a UK trait and not often understood or followed by other nations.

It is used so often on here, whereby the user speaks of something the complete opposite of what the user means for comedy value aswell.

Ex. 1: "I'm okay. Don't mind the gaping wound and the sword protruding from my back. I'm fine. I feel like a million dollars."

Ex. 2:

"Is your car stuck in the mud?"

"No, no, of course not. I'm only practicing how to spray mud using my tires.

So it can be interpreted as offensive or even stupid even though it seriously isnt.

It would help if we all had a small flag on our avatar so we can see where each of us originates; then us Brits no how far to push in our replies

[uptheos]

It would help if we all had a small flag on our avatar so we can see where each of us originates; then us Brits no how far to push in our replies

Nope....what would Cleese, Idle, Chapman, Palin, Jones and Gilliam make of your idea?

Part of the great humour that is unique to Brits, is actually seeing if they 'get it' or not and I fly the flag when I say, ‘Never in the history of mankind have so many owed so much to so few’.......and in this I include the debt owed for the gift of British Humour to the world.

Edited July 24, 2012 by uptheos

[mamborobert]

I am as guilty as anyone of profound sarcasm, which in fairness is the lowest form of wit (so they say) but it is mainly a UK trait and not often understood or followed by other nations.

It is used so often on here, whereby the user speaks of something the complete opposite of what the user means for comedy value aswell.

Ex. 1: "I'm okay. Don't mind the gaping wound and the sword protruding from my back. I'm fine. I feel like a million dollars."

Ex. 2:

"Is your car stuck in the mud?"

"No, no, of course not. I'm only practicing how to spray mud using my tires.

So it can be interpreted as offensive or even stupid even though it seriously isnt.

It would help if we all had a small flag on our avatar so we can see where each of us originates; then us Brits no how far to push in our replies

In full agreement, British humour is very unique.

Perhaps the flag mechanism for Brits could also be used to inhibit any UK citizens commentary regarding postings on on food or fine dining.

[eyecatcher]

The Brits are great food critics when it comes to chips, tikka masala; donner kebabs,, what are you saying?......that our fine dining expertise is limited

[uptheos]

The Brits are great food critics when it comes to chips, tikka masala; donner kebabs,, what are you saying?......that our fine dining expertise is limited

International dining experts.