cheeryble Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Common Like coloured toilet paper. Like extra chrome bits on a Mercedes. Like a wedding dress with too much glitter. Like wearing big gold amulets on a chain. Like so called hiso being loso and not acknowledging being served with a polite "thankyou". Cannot find this meaning in the dic.... Any good way to say? Edited July 23, 2012 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Sa-mun is "common", as in plain, ordinary, without a feudal or royal title, but that's not the word you're looking for. I wouldn't even use "common" in English for the examples you gave. Chuut-chaat is "gaudy" or "garish", which is a much better fit, I think. You could also try kee-oh, which is something like "showy", or "flashy". If you're not keen on gaudy, though, I don't think Thailand's the place for you... (Sorry for no Thai script--the forum software's acting up right now, and I can't be bothered putting up a picture.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laowai1960 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) 1,2,3 & 4 – showy / show-off = gahn sadaeng ork 5 – impolite = mai supharb OR inconsiderate = mai greng jai Edited July 23, 2012 by laowai1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Thankyou both for covering it nicely. Even though I read Thai that doesn't help me with tones I'm afraid Peppy really should work that one out.... How do you say your words or phrases tonally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Saa-mun is rising-mid. Chuut-chaat is low-low. Kee-oh is falling-low. Gaan sa-daeng ork means "expression", as in self-expression... I don't think that's exactly what the OP was looking for. As for the final example about not saying thank you to servers in a restaurant or bar, yes, that would be mai su-paap (falling, low-falling) or sia maa-ra-yaat (rising, mid-high-falling)--impolite, rude--in a western context, but I don't think it's expected here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laowai1960 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Gaan sa-daeng ork means "expression", as in self-expression I don’t doubt that’s the correct meaning of the expression. However, Thai people have said the expression to me when referring to a person who I would refer to in English as a show-off. I remember one particular conversation when the expression was used to refer to someone who wears chunky, fake gold jewelry – the type sold on tables in shopping malls for 99 baht. Maybe a incorrect but common misuse of the term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klons Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 This might fit some of those. In the Longdo Dict - kee- uat is defined as given to showing off. Also kee uat is listed as a Syn. of ostentatious. ostentatious adjective characterized by vulgar or pretentious display; designed to impress or attract notice soundclip for kee uat kee uat.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Its not the word the OP is looking for, but its the phrase I hear Thais use to refer to what is being described. Bannork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) I was thinking บ้านนอก too. Reminded me of this this clip I saw recently where the top-voted comment at the top of the page was "3.30เด้นบ้านนอกมากวะ" Edited July 24, 2012 by katana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooky Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 How about when trying to use the word common as in 'commonplace' or describing something which you see every day and is not out of the ordinary at all. Also used to describe someone who is a bit lower in their actions or class. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 There is also โอ้อวด (o:hF-uaatL) which means flashy, ostentatious or pretentious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) How about when trying to use the word common as in 'commonplace' or describing something which you see every day and is not out of the ordinary at all. Also used to describe someone who is a bit lower in their actions or class. ??? คนธรรมดา khohnM thamM maH daaM Though I'm not sure it has the idea of low class that you're suggesting. Ordinary person- from www.thai-language.com [EDIT: Increased font size] Edited July 30, 2012 by Slip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delight Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I think that the term ‘Common ‘ is a shortened version of the phrase ‘Common as Muck’ It is ,of course ,derisory. That term is probably uniquely British and is a reflection of that region’s class system .Probably northern England only.(just a guess) Suspect that Americans- for example - are unlikely to use it. Doubt if Thailand has a similar phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a51mas Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 How about when trying to use the word common as in 'commonplace' or describing something which you see every day and is not out of the ordinary at all. Also used to describe someone who is a bit lower in their actions or class. ??? I would use the following terms: เป็นของธรรมดา - a common practice or for a little sacrasm use: กลายเป็นประเพณี - it's a culturing thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 How about when trying to use the word common as in 'commonplace' or describing something which you see every day and is not out of the ordinary at all. Also used to describe someone who is a bit lower in their actions or class. ??? First question, choice of two common (no pun intended) words, ปรกติ prokati, means normal common or usual. ธรรมดา tammada, same as above. Second question, normal everyday Thai the following is used and understood by all Thais, เรียบร้อย riap roi, means in this case, polite or well mannered, so impolite or lacking in manners would be, ไม่เรียบร้อย mai riap roi. เรียบร้อย can be used for all sorts of descriptions such as way of dress, actions, manners and appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Actually I find the most common (no pun intended again ) use of เรียบร้อย is for everyday tasks that have been completed satisfactorily, such as a service transaction, an action such as cleaning something or assembling something, comfortably winning a sporting competition etc. In fact เรียบร้อย has to be one of the most common everyday expressions. As as pointed out above, เรียบร้อย also means to be polite, neat etc. Here is a whole page full of uses of เรียบร้อย http://www.thai2english.com/dictionary/1392960.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidHouston Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 How about เชย. which means "like a bumpkin; simpleminded; foolish-looking; old-fashioned; out-of-date; in bad style; rustic; countrified"? Is this perhaps what the OP has in mind? I, for one, have never experienced colored toilet paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireInTheSky Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 How about พื้นๆ for a change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delight Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Changing my mind ref. my earlier post-I can now see that David Houston’s contribution is about right. The word ‘Common’ has now been superseded by the word ‘Tacky’ which translates to เชย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 I think that the term ‘Common ‘ is a shortened version of the phrase ‘Common as Muck’It is ,of course ,derisory. That term is probably uniquely British and is a reflection of that region’s class system .Probably northern England only.(just a guess) Suspect that Americans- for example - are unlikely to use it. Doubt if Thailand has a similar phrase. Just a minute just a minute.... Most of Britain's Prime Ministers for some decades have come from Grammar Schools, whose pupils, though elite, are from across all the population. Whereas America is rating much lower than Europe, and falling, on social mobility....which is part of the myth of anyone can make it in America. Measurably, if you want to live the American Dream you should go to Denmark Norway or Finland! That aside thanks for the great answers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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