Another Forgetful Farang

[ThaiPauly]

It took Immigration so long to renew my "O" Visa that I thought I would have to report to immigration 3 months after I finally got it. (21st December)

Just flicking through my passport today I found out I should have reported yesterday. This was at 5pm so to late to go today.

Will I get a fine or what will happen when I go in on Monday?

Can anyone tell me?

Cheers

TP

[lopburi3]

You forgot what? You should have reported for what?

Immigration does not have anything to do with visas so am at a loss.

If you are talking about 90 day address report and you have just found your last report in your passport and it says to report yesterday you are not even in trouble as you have a window of plus/minus 7 days to make the report without fine. If something else please be specific.

[phuketsiam]

eh, immigration to issue visa's usually the report date is 90 days after your lst visit, never heard of the 7 day window, worst that can happen is a 2K fine, on both occasions I was late they let me off, but I did grovel a lot

[ThaiPauly]

I have to report to Chaingmai immigration every 90 days , then they put a stamp in it that says I have to return and present myself in another 90 days.

Thanks in advance

TP

[lopburi3]

I have to report to Chaingmai immigration every 90 days , then they put a stamp in it that says I have to return and present myself in another 90 days.

Thanks in advance

TP

What exactly does this stamp say if you happen to have it handy? I have never heard of having to report to immigration for a stamp every 90 days. You are here on a visa or a yearly extension of stay? For some unusual purpose? You do not fill out a TM.47 form to report your address? I am trying to makes sense out of your situation but so far it does not make much sense.

eh, immigration to issue visa's usually the report date is 90 days after your lst visit, never heard of the 7 day window, worst that can happen is a 2K fine, on both occasions I was late they let me off, but I did grovel a lot

Immigration does not issue visas. The 2,000 baht fine is for not reporting your address after being in Thailand for 90 days and it does have a 7 day window.

[Ulysses G.]

eh, immigration to issue visa's usually the report date is 90 days after your lst visit, never heard of the 7 day window, worst that can happen is a 2K fine, on both occasions I was late they let me off, but I did grovel a lot

I reported exactly 90 days after my visa was finally issued.

They pointed out that there was a piece of paper in the back of the passport that said I should have reported one month earlier for some unknown reason, which no one ever bothered to tell me.

The immigration official told me that she didn't know why they had required me to come back after 60 days instead of 90 (without informing me).

She charged me 2,000 baht anyway, although she knew, and I knew, that it was a crock of cr*p.

We both smiled a lot and I kissed her butt while I got screwed up the backside.

TIT!

[phuketsiam]

LOL, I suppose you always have to grovel, whether it works or not

[lopburi3]

eh, immigration to issue visa's usually the report date is 90 days after your lst visit, never heard of the 7 day window, worst that can happen is a 2K fine, on both occasions I was late they let me off, but I did grovel a lot

I reported exactly 90 days after my visa was finally issued.

They pointed out that there was a piece of paper in the back of the passport that said I should have reported one month earlier for some unknown reason, which no one ever bothered to tell me.

The immigration official told me that she didn't know why they had required me to come back after 60 days instead of 90 (without informing me).

She charged me 2,000 baht anyway, although she knew, and I knew, that it was a crock of cr*p.

We both smiled a lot and I kissed her butt while I got screwed up the backside.

TIT!

They even had a paper telling you when to report and your failed the test.

The first application for an extension of stay (it is not a visa) is considered your first 90 day report (not the date your final approval is received).

The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.

[billd766]

I am here on a Thai support visa and I have set up a calander which tells me when my next 90 report date is due. You can also set up the calander to add the next 90 day visit in Excel it it can do that as well. you may need to juggle with it to get it right but it will work.

Green for 7 days before, yellow for the day and red for the next 7 days.

If you want to do it on a real calander it works with that as well, except you need a highlighting pen.

Edited January 20, 2006 by billd766

[Ulysses G.]

They even had a paper telling you when to report and your failed the test.

The first application for an extension of stay (it is not a visa) is considered your first 90 day report (not the date your final approval is received).

The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.

Thats great, but it would be nice if they TOLD you about this piece of paper which was stuck in between the last pages of the passport where no one would look with out being psychic or being informed about it.

Afraid that I don't have a crystal ball.

[lopburi3]

They even had a paper telling you when to report and your failed the test.

The first application for an extension of stay (it is not a visa) is considered your first 90 day report (not the date your final approval is received).

The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.

Thats great, but it would be nice if they TOLD you about this piece of paper which was stuck in between the last pages of the passport where no one would look with out being psychic or being informed about it.

Afraid that I don't have a crystal ball.

I expect that most people would be curious enough to check what was put in there passport - perhaps we are all just getting too lazy these days.

[Ulysses G.]

Do YOU go through EVERY page of your passport looking for something that someone might have stapled in there without telling you every time you go to immigration?

By the way, my passport is 7 years old and has something like 100 pages in it. It was impossible to see the paper without opening that particular page and there was no reason to do so.

[Maestro]

Thats great, but it would be nice if they TOLD you about this piece of paper which was stuck in between the last pages of the passport where no one would look with out being psychic or being informed about it.

It would be even nicer if Immigration entered all 90-day reports into a computer – which they probably already do – and the computer then sent you an email or registered letter 7 days before the due date for the next report.

But that wasn’t exactly your problem and I do agree: when they return the passport to you they could take an extra 17 seconds or so to point out to you what has been stamped and/or placed into your passport.

I haven’t arrived at the point of annual extensions and 90-day reports yet but I have already taken a mental note to put a recurring reminder in my Outlook when the time comes.

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Maestro

[ThaiPauly]

The piece of paper, stapled on page 2 of my passport is entitled "Receipt of Notification"

Has recived nototification of staying in Thailand for 90 days from (stamp) 21 Oct 2005. Thats when my last visa expired

Then twice on the form it says 18 Jan 2006 (again stamped)!

Then there is a small box which quotes" Residence notification is not an extension of visa. must keep this document on current passport and come for the next renewal on 18Jan2006 (stamped ) !!!

Can anyone make anything of this.? I have my new visa, I suppose that could have been put in in case it had not arrived in time...but I doubt it

[Thetyim]

TP sounds like you are talking about 90day reporting which as Lopburi has said already, you can be up to 7 days late with no fine.

" I have my new visa" I presume you mean

"I have my new extension of stay"

[lopburi3]

The piece of paper, stapled on page 2 of my passport is entitled "Receipt of Notification"

Has recived nototification of staying in Thailand for 90 days from (stamp) 21 Oct 2005. Thats when my last visa expired

Then twice on the form it says 18 Jan 2006 (again stamped)!

Then there is a small box which quotes" Residence notification is not an extension of visa. must keep this document on current passport and come for the next renewal on 18Jan2006 (stamped ) !!!

Can anyone make anything of this.? I have my new visa, I suppose that could have been put in in case it had not arrived in time...but I doubt it

That is your last 90 day address report receipt and give you the date the next report is due (assuming you do not leave the country). So if you have not been outside of Thailand in the last 93 days it was due on the 18th and you need to personally appear at an immigration office before the 26th and fill out a new TM.47 form. There should not be any fine if you do so before the 26th.

[Boon Mee]

Getting everyone on the same page w/respect to this 'visa'/'extension of stay' is tough but it can be done with a little attention to the semantics involved.

Specifically though, got another one for K. lopburi3: Can the 90 day reporting be done at a Police Station as previously posted by some on here? (not this specific thread).

Thank you!

Edited January 21, 2006 by Boon Mee

[lopburi3]

Getting everyone on the same page w/respect to this 'visa'/'extension of stay' is tough but it can be done with a little attention to the semantics involved.

Specifically though, got another one for K. lopburi3: Can the 90 day reporting be done at a Police Station as previously posted by some on here? (not this specific thread).

Thank you!

That's a trick question because Immigration Police are police. Immigration gives three places (other than mail)

Offices accepting notification:

Counter 3, Immigration Bureau Office, Soi Suanphlu, Bangkok

Visa extension units, Ratchada Centre (BOI)

Immigration offices throughout the country

There is another report that can be done at a local police station for a foreigner resident in a building that probably gets confused with the 90 day address report. They are not the same.

[Boon Mee]

Does anyone have a link to Immigration office locations throughout Thailand?

Cheers.

[lopburi3]

Does anyone have a link to Immigration office locations throughout Thailand?

Cheers.

Click on checkpoints Immigration Web Site

[Boon Mee]

Does anyone have a link to Immigration office locations throughout Thailand?

Cheers.

Click on checkpoints Immigration Web Site

Thanks lopburi - none in Suphanburi unfortunately...

[ThaiPauly]

The piece of paper, stapled on page 2 of my passport is entitled "Receipt of Notification"

Has recived nototification of staying in Thailand for 90 days from (stamp) 21 Oct 2005. Thats when my last visa expired

Then twice on the form it says 18 Jan 2006 (again stamped)!

Then there is a small box which quotes" Residence notification is not an extension of visa. must keep this document on current passport and come for the next renewal on 18Jan2006 (stamped ) !!!

Can anyone make anything of this.? I have my new visa, I suppose that could have been put in in case it had not arrived in time...but I doubt it

That is your last 90 day address report receipt and give you the date the next report is due (assuming you do not leave the country). So if you have not been outside of Thailand in the last 93 days it was due on the 18th and you need to personally appear at an immigration office before the 26th and fill out a new TM.47 form. There should not be any fine if you do so before the 26th.

Thank You Lopburi. I have been out of the country since my last reporting, although I did of course get a re-entry permit, how much difference does it make? (Which surprisingly they did not take off me at the airport upon my return, as it is not dated I wonder if I can use it next time I leave?

Thanks

TP

[lopburi3]

The piece of paper, stapled on page 2 of my passport is entitled "Receipt of Notification"

Has recived nototification of staying in Thailand for 90 days from (stamp) 21 Oct 2005. Thats when my last visa expired

Then twice on the form it says 18 Jan 2006 (again stamped)!

Then there is a small box which quotes" Residence notification is not an extension of visa. must keep this document on current passport and come for the next renewal on 18Jan2006 (stamped ) !!!

Can anyone make anything of this.? I have my new visa, I suppose that could have been put in in case it had not arrived in time...but I doubt it

That is your last 90 day address report receipt and give you the date the next report is due (assuming you do not leave the country). So if you have not been outside of Thailand in the last 93 days it was due on the 18th and you need to personally appear at an immigration office before the 26th and fill out a new TM.47 form. There should not be any fine if you do so before the 26th.

Thank You Lopburi. I have been out of the country since my last reporting, although I did of course get a re-entry permit, how much difference does it make? (Which surprisingly they did not take off me at the airport upon my return, as it is not dated I wonder if I can use it next time I leave?

Thanks

TP

90 days from your last entry into Thailand you are required to make another TM.47 report (if you do not leave again). So you are safe for now.

What are you wondering about them not taking from you are the airport? The re entry permit the last time I used one was a stamp on your passport and could not be removed. If you are talking about that 90 day report receipt they do not normally bother with that as you are responsible for reporting address after 90 days, with or without a receipt.

[marshbags]

Before I go on my 90 residence notification I always count 90 days onwards and make a note of it.

When they give my passport back to me I just check that the date is o.k. just in case there has been a mistake before leaving.

If it is different i double check 90 days from the date of reporting, if it is wrong i ask the officer politely if they would check the date please, ( in a friendly manner )

When I get home I always mark the calendar big enough to be seen with the next Res.Notif.

reporting date and if needed apply the 7 day grace period + or -

( I also mark in big detail my next visa renewal which is different from resident notification )

Remember this is not for a 90 day visa extension which you have to leave the country to get and you cannot go over time with this one, not even on weekends or bank holidays.

I always photo copy any new information and dates ect. after my visit.

I always double check changes and dates to my passport via immigration and make sure I,ve been issued with the correct type of visa and reporting info. before leaving.

Whenever I have to use my passport for the bank or anything else again I always do a check to make sure all the papers i.e. TMcard ,90 day reporting slip ect. are still intact.

When they put this is not an extension of your stay on your 90 day residence notification, all it means is it,s not a 90 visa extension for which you have to leave the country, so don,t confuse the two.

I apologise if this has already been covered before I post my visa routine, and physical check list.

If they give me a date in excess of 90 days i again ask for it to be checked as this will usually come back on you on your next visit. 90 days is 90 days no more and no less.

Again this is just my own personal routine and not intended to undermine the vast experience of

regular visa admin.

marshbags

Edited January 21, 2006 by marshbags