GentlemanJim Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) POLITICS Thida, Worajet turn down appointments to Nec The Nation Thida BANGKOK: -- Reds leader Thida Thavornsret and Nitirat Group coleader Worajet Pakirat on Friday vowed to turn down their appointments to subcommittees of the National Education Council (Nec) in the middle of an outcry, with opponents alleging that subcommittees dominated by prominent red shirts would inculcate detrimental political ideologies in students. Education Minister Suchart Tadathamrongvej, however, stood firm by his decision. "The appointees have good qualifications. If you look at the whole list, you will find that members of the subcommittees have different political convictions. There are figures seen as affiliated with the yellow shirts too," Suchart said. The subcommittee, which includes Thida as a member, is tasked with working on policies and planning. Nec secretary general Anek Permwongsenee said this committee had no mandate to issue an order. Thida said she had not had in advance that she would be appointed to the subcommittee. "I have just talked to Suchart and asked why he did such a thing to me. I won't take this post," she said. In a separate interview, Worajet said he just found out that he had been appointed to an Nec subcommittee. He said if the appointment order arrived, he would submit his resignation. "I have so many things to do. I don't have time to work on this subcommittee," he said. -- The Nation 2012-08-10 Well, imagine this in a size 72 font, bold and bright red! "Thank <deleted> for that"!!! Looks like the wicked witch of the North or is it Hanoi Hanna, won't be interfering in the kindergarten after all. A very big Pheeeew! Edited August 10, 2012 by GentlemanJim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 The Ministerial document announcing the various committees and how they would be peopled is dated 2012-07-18. Today is 2012-08-10. Surely Thai bureaucracy works slowly if appointees just now heard about it For those who want to study Thai, here the official document 2012-07-18 AnuBoardSapha2555UpdJul55.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 PT and UDD completely mirrors the Brown shirts of Hitlers day. History repeating itself. DEATH-BLOW TO DEMOCRACY What have the Brown Shirts done since Hitler became Chancellor on January 30? They have dealt a deathblow to democracy in Germany, and have made Parliament into a despised relic of the past. They have put one party, and one party only, into control, and that is the National-Socialist party, which has become as all-powerful as the Communists in Russia and the Fascists in Italy. The Nazis (pronounced Natsi-s) have put themselves into the position of leaders in the universities, in all committees, in factories, on boards of directors, in schools, in public offices. Most positions of trust are now held by members of the party. Full article here: http://colley.co.uk/...er_hitler_1.htm And since so few of our esteemed colleagues here read world history....... They prefer to make history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 POLITICS Thida, Worajet turn down appointments to Nec The Nation Thida BANGKOK: -- Reds leader Thida Thavornsret and Nitirat Group coleader Worajet Pakirat on Friday vowed to turn down their appointments to subcommittees of the National Education Council (Nec) in the middle of an outcry, with opponents alleging that subcommittees dominated by prominent red shirts would inculcate detrimental political ideologies in students. Education Minister Suchart Tadathamrongvej, however, stood firm by his decision. "The appointees have good qualifications. If you look at the whole list, you will find that members of the subcommittees have different political convictions. There are figures seen as affiliated with the yellow shirts too," Suchart said. The subcommittee, which includes Thida as a member, is tasked with working on policies and planning. Nec secretary general Anek Permwongsenee said this committee had no mandate to issue an order. Thida said she had not had in advance that she would be appointed to the subcommittee. "I have just talked to Suchart and asked why he did such a thing to me. I won't take this post," she said. In a separate interview, Worajet said he just found out that he had been appointed to an Nec subcommittee. He said if the appointment order arrived, he would submit his resignation. "I have so many things to do. I don't have time to work on this subcommittee," he said. -- The Nation 2012-08-10 Well, imagine this in a size 72 font, bold and bright red! "Thank <deleted> for that"!!! Looks like the wicked witch of the North or is it Hanoi Hanna, won't be interfering in the kindergarten after all. A very big Pheeeew! Agreed. Good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Well, the real <deleted> is Suchart who doesn't even bother to ask those he appoints. I think Thida should be applauded if (a big if) she doesn't take up the appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 On the bright side, the education system in this country can't get much worse. Nearly all the people that can afford it sen their children to other countries. A recent study placed Thailand 54 out of 56 countries for fluency in english. when this Asean trade deal takes effect, and these people really have to compete, not just pay bribes, they are in big trouble. I agree, I'm in no terms a red shirt supporter, but now she has the chance to improve the dismal education system for Thai children, which are largely dominated by the poor. As it stands, only the rich can afford a decent education in this country. I'd give her a chance but I'm personally not too confident she has good intentions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Yes. The day that PT make an appointment based on merit will be a progressive day for Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Yes. The day that PT make an appointment based on merit will be a progressive day for Thailand. May I remind you that PM Yingluck handpicked her cabinet based on knowledge, capabilities, potential and suitability? Edited August 10, 2012 by rubl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Yes. The day that PT make an appointment based on merit will be a progressive day for Thailand. May I remind you that PM Yingluck handpicked her cabinet based on knowledge, capabilities, potential and suitability? I know, but don't forget incorruptibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 PT and UDD completely mirrors the Brown shirts of Hitlers day. History repeating itself. DEATH-BLOW TO DEMOCRACY What have the Brown Shirts done since Hitler became Chancellor on January 30? They have dealt a deathblow to democracy in Germany, and have made Parliament into a despised relic of the past. They have put one party, and one party only, into control, and that is the National-Socialist party, which has become as all-powerful as the Communists in Russia and the Fascists in Italy. The Nazis (pronounced Natsi-s) have put themselves into the position of leaders in the universities, in all committees, in factories, on boards of directors, in schools, in public offices. Most positions of trust are now held by members of the party. Full article here: http://colley.co.uk/...er_hitler_1.htm Well Nazis and Communists did it very similar. Here is more the commie way, not that it makes much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I'm afraid that claims that people are appointed to government committees without being asked if they have any interest, and that 3 weeks after appointment they are just finding out about their good luck, smell very much like a dairy shed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Sure am glad my children got out of school before this. Like in the Wizard of OZ, taught by the Wicked Witch of the North. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdpooguava Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Yes. The day that PT make an appointment based on merit will be a progressive day for Thailand. Kasit Pirom???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 PT 48% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hm.... does that mean "Red Doctrine" will become part of the elementary school curriculum soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moruya Posted August 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2012 Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Yes. The day that PT make an appointment based on merit will be a progressive day for Thailand. Kasit Pirom???? He may be a dope. But he is more highly qualified and has a better portfolio than you can dream of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiOats Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Yes. The day that PT make an appointment based on merit will be a progressive day for Thailand. Kasit Pirom???? So if they did it, its okay for us to do it? No wonder why this country is going nowhere because of this mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardofel Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Education and Thailand is an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Suchart should consider that it is not whether it is red or yellow but the extremes that are the issue. Yes. The day that PT make an appointment based on merit will be a progressive day for Thailand. Kasit Pirom???? He may be a dope. But he is more highly qualified and has a better portfolio than you can dream of. no he isn't qualified....I read his communication with Germany. Samaks interviews in English are in compare Nobel price quality. Google translate is doing a better job+the lies were so obvious that it could be seen by simply reading it. There are a lot certified translation services in Bangkok. Which of course does not make the content better. And the idea that the German government should in a civilian case overrule the court shows some lack of understanding how things in a normal country work. Zero qualification.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 POLITICS Thida, Worajet turn down appointments to Nec BANGKOK: -- Reds leader Thida Thavornsret and Nitirat Group coleader Worajet Pakirat on Friday vowed to turn down their appointments to subcommittees of the National Education Council (Nec) in the middle of an outcry, with opponents alleging that subcommittees dominated by prominent red shirts would inculcate detrimental political ideologies in students. Education Minister Suchart Tadathamrongvej, however, stood firm by his decision. Thida said she had not had in advance that she would be appointed to the subcommittee. "I have just talked to Suchart and asked why he did such a thing to me. I won't take this post," she said. Looks like the wicked witch of the North or is it Hanoi Hanna, won't be interfering in the kindergarten after all. A very big Pheeeew! No word yet on Yingluck's sister Yaowaret Shinawatra turning down her appointment? Pathetic display with Yingluck's Education Minister Suchart making these Education Council appointments before even telling the appointees. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Do any of these people have experience as teachers, school administrators or in IT/computer learning? Thida is a retired university lecturer according to wiki. POL POT was a teacher. ....... sent from my Wellcom A90+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) Hm.... does that mean "Red Doctrine" will become part of the elementary school curriculum soon? Installable on the Prathom 1 new tablet computers App Guide Mao's Little Red Book (with search)Version: 3.0.1 $1 Description: Mao Zedong's Little Red Book is one of the most printed books in history. The book presents collection of Chairman Mao Zedong quotations. This person was regarded as one of the most important figures in world history and was named as one of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century by Time Magazine. Have you ever wondered what the greatest leader of Chinese people said about Woman, Youth, Study, Discipline, World and Peace? You will find the answers within this book. http://www.pcworld.com/appguide/app.html?id=490811&expand=false Edited August 10, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hm.... does that mean "Red Doctrine" will become part of the elementary school curriculum soon? Installable on the Prathom 1 new tablet computers App Guide Mao's Little Red Book (with search)Version: 3.0.1 $1 Description: Mao Zedong's Little Red Book is one of the most printed books in history. The book presents collection of Chairman Mao Zedong quotations. This person was regarded as one of the most important figures in world history and was named as one of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century by Time Magazine. Have you ever wondered what the greatest leader of Chinese people said about Woman, Youth, Study, Discipline, World and Peace? You will find the answers within this book. http://www.pcworld.c...11&expand=false There was I thinking Thida was a Stalinist. Don't know why, maybe the facial resemblance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshiwara Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hm.... does that mean "Red Doctrine" will become part of the elementary school curriculum soon? Installable on the Prathom 1 new tablet computers App Guide Mao's Little Red Book (with search)Version: 3.0.1 $1 Description: Mao Zedong's Little Red Book is one of the most printed books in history. The book presents collection of Chairman Mao Zedong quotations. This person was regarded as one of the most important figures in world history and was named as one of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century by Time Magazine. Have you ever wondered what the greatest leader of Chinese people said about Woman, Youth, Study, Discipline, World and Peace? You will find the answers within this book. http://www.pcworld.c...11&expand=false There was I thinking Thida was a Stalinist. Don't know why, maybe the facial resemblance. Thida is schooled in the Stalinist tradition. Better for Thksin to keep his erstwhile leftwing allies in an educational portfolio away from the economic honeypots. Thida will have turned it down as an insulting push into a side-lined position. She wants something more central for her red movement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted August 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2012 But, this is so typical of a completely broken political system. When the educational standards are declining, rather than advancing like most of it's neighbors, Thailand is engaging in this kind of nonsense. When is the last time anyone in an important position was appointed due to merit? It almost never happens. And they wonder why in a recent survey of teacher standards, when math teachers were given the same test that they use to test their students, in 16 provinces, the failure rate amongst teachers was 86%? Can you imagine? The blind leading the blind, to the abyss of illiteracy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 How could this administration possibly think that this would be an appropriate appointment? More absolute stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Do any of these people have experience as teachers, school administrators or in IT/computer learning? No they do not. But surely they do not have to. As members of the red shirts they already know everything. If you doubt that, just look at the PM and the rest of the government. Not to mention the clown in Dubai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well she certainly meets the PT qualifications. She s a red shirt. I thought that underneath all the nonsense she was a communist. Could be wrong on that point. But definitely correct about meeting the PT qualifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Additional information posted in another thread just prior to this new thread... Even though Thida wasn't given an MP chair like her husband was, the Yingluck government has now rewarded her with a chair on the Education Ministry's Office of the Education Council. Another Red Shirt appointed to the Council is Worapol Prommikabutr. Still another appointed to the Education Council by Yingluck Shinawatra's government is Yingluck's older sister, Yaowaret Shinawatra. Still others include failed Pheu Thai Party constituency MP candidates and a Red Shirt lawyer. The list of all appointees used to be viewable in pdf format on the government website: http://www.onec.go.t...-27-07-2012.pdf but it's since been taken down after the news of its content began circulating amongst the media. The way to take over a country from an old elite is to reeducate the young into proto-zealots for your cause, slowly but steadily. This is a 'reward' that plays into the former communists maoist play book as if it were made for them. Keys to the candy store for controlling a post Thaksin world. This as bad a set of news as Thailand has ever had, and makes the uber-nationalist indoctrinations of old seem mildly quaint in comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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