Norwegian Man, Thai Woman Killed In Chon Buri Road Accident

[fishhooks]

So at more than the 120 post mark, we have conclusive proof that the pair were in a sexual relationship; Do we?

If not; Are not many of the posts here just WASTED SPACE.

AND; even if so; Are not many of the posts here actually OFF TOPIC regards the incident itself?

Please 'Slow Down' 'Pull Back' or whatever.

The fact is, two lives have been lost and needless ramblings here add nothing................

Nothing whatsoever!

Edited August 14, 2012 by fishhooks

[NoshowJones]

A 52-year-old drunk Norwegian tourist and 17 year old GIRL. What a shame.

Your dead right there, she was just a kid - IF its proved that he was intoxicated, then its another grim statistic.

Sooner the police clamp down on drinking and driving in Thailand, then the safer we'll all be.

Commit any crime you like in Thailand, Just don't murder anyone (in some cases that is) break immigration laws, or get involved with drugs. Anything else goes.

[ozziebloke]

So at more than the 120 post mark, we have conclusive proof that the pair were in a sexual relationship; Do we?

If not; Are not many of the posts here just WASTED SPACE.

AND; even if so; Are not many of the posts here actually OFF TOPIC regards the incident itself?

Please 'Slow Down' 'Pull Back' or whatever.

The fact is, two lives have been lost and needless ramblings here add nothing................

Nothing whatsoever!

"Norwegian And Thai GF Killed In Motorbike Crash

A 52-year-old Norwegian and his young Thai girlfriend "

Quote from Webfact.

do not Boyfriend/Girlfriend have sexual relations ?

Edited August 14, 2012 by metisdead
: Bold font removed where it is not needed, no need shout your question.

[Dazzletoad]

So your point is that sex with a 6-year old is okay? I can't see any other reason for making this statement unless you are trying to prove that the law in England may be wrong when you are using this law to justify your opinion that sex with somebody under 18 is okay.

It appears that you have fatally misinterpreted my point. My point is this, and please let me make it clear.

I support the legal age of consent to sex, smoking and gambling to be at the age of 16. I also support giving children in schools as young as 7 years old, sharp metal scissors and support things like abortion and secular thinking.

If we give a good education, and rely on the persons common sense and give them some credibility, instead of treating young girls like they are brain dead magnets to foreign men, who are teen and therefore incapable of making rational decisions, then we can take an objective view on cases like this.

Children who are given scissors with the taught responsibility are less likely or wont cause themselves or others harm, and giving women control over their own bodies and giving them rights goes somewhat to supporting them in the face of societies like you lot.

You take my words and twist them, no, I am explicitly NOT condoning sex with a 6 year old girl. That is disgusting, and a biological, as well as criminal violation. At the age of 13 the human body may be ready for intercourse but I don't think it is appropriate. 16 however, is something I support.

My link was to say to you, if you want age of consent to complain about, go and find a muslim forum board who say its ok to have sex with a girl, in the words of mohammeds sex life for example, when she (aisha) turned 9 years old.

What people forget is that if you say 18 should be the legal age for sex then explain to me the different between 17 years of age with one hour to turn 18, or 1 hour and 5 minutes after. What miraculous change does the body go through in that time?

Back on topic in reply to Kananga:

I would appreciate the references to these quotes you have taken from whatever source you got them. Mapping consent age is very difficult and not in such a scientific context, rather depending instead on the social and cultural norms of the country in question.

I would propose this, if two 16 year olds had sex, then you wouldnt kick up a fuss about it. If a 16 year old and a 60 year old had sex however, you suddenly consign it to the pits, ridiculously and wrongly deeming the behaviour as 'paedophilia' or any other such perversion.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Dazzletoad

[Dazzletoad]

So at more than the 120 post mark, we have conclusive proof that the pair were in a sexual relationship; Do we?

If not; Are not many of the posts here just WASTED SPACE.

AND; even if so; Are not many of the posts here actually OFF TOPIC regards the incident itself?

Please 'Slow Down' 'Pull Back' or whatever.

The fact is, two lives have been lost and needless ramblings here add nothing................

Nothing whatsoever!

"Norwegian And Thai GF Killed In Motorbike Crash

A 52-year-old Norwegian and his young Thai girlfriend "

Quote from Webfact.

do not Boyfriend/Girlfriend have sexual relations ?

I have to play devils advocate and say I have girlfriends and boyfriends, but not in the context of sexual relations, merely sex defined friendships :/

[ozziebloke]

So at more than the 120 post mark, we have conclusive proof that the pair were in a sexual relationship; Do we?

If not; Are not many of the posts here just WASTED SPACE.

AND; even if so; Are not many of the posts here actually OFF TOPIC regards the incident itself?

Please 'Slow Down' 'Pull Back' or whatever.

The fact is, two lives have been lost and needless ramblings here add nothing................

Nothing whatsoever!

"Norwegian And Thai GF Killed In Motorbike Crash

A 52-year-old Norwegian and his young Thai girlfriend "

Quote from Webfact.

do not Boyfriend/Girlfriend have sexual relations ?

I have to play devils advocate and say I have girlfriends and boyfriends, but not in the context of sexual relations, merely sex defined friendships :/

I'm 50 years old and 16 year olds in my life are refered to as daughter,Neice,Daughters friend, Friends daughter etc etc

[transam]

So at more than the 120 post mark, we have conclusive proof that the pair were in a sexual relationship; Do we?

If not; Are not many of the posts here just WASTED SPACE.

AND; even if so; Are not many of the posts here actually OFF TOPIC regards the incident itself?

Please 'Slow Down' 'Pull Back' or whatever.

The fact is, two lives have been lost and needless ramblings here add nothing................

Nothing whatsoever!

"Norwegian And Thai GF Killed In Motorbike Crash

A 52-year-old Norwegian and his young Thai girlfriend "

Quote from Webfact.

do not Boyfriend/Girlfriend have sexual relations ?

I have to play devils advocate and say I have girlfriends and boyfriends, but not in the context of sexual relations, merely sex defined friendships :/

I'm 50 years old and 16 year olds in my life are refered to as daughter,Neice,Daughters friend, Friends daughter etc etc

Eh.

[fishhooks]

So O'bloke

The newspaper or wherever the report originates from is 'God' here and can be relied on 100%.

I still come back to the theme of my post.

What on earth has this got to do with the tragic event?

The majority of posts here are Off Topic.................AS ARE MINE!

[joecos]

My God he must have been doing some speed, the bike was 100 mts. from the bodies.

RIP to the deceased,condolences to their loved ones.

[chiangmaicharlies]

Norwegian And Thai GF Killed In Motorbike Crash

A 52-year-old Norwegian and his young Thai girlfriend were killed in a motorbike crash on a highway bridge near Pattaya. The man lost control of the bike, which hit the edge of the bridge. Both died instantly from the violent impact.

PATTAYA – August 14, 2012 [PDN]; at 4:30 a.m., Pol. Lt. Col. Pornchai Plangsiritham, Inspector of highway police, Khao Khiew, was notified of a motorbike crash where two people died.

He rushed to the scene with Pattaya police and the rescue officer from the Sawangboribul Pattaya foundation. The incident occurred at highway bridge Number 7, part 5, which crosses Sukhumvit Road going from Pattaya to Bangkok.

The foreigner was driving the motorbike with his 16-year-old Thai girlfriend as a passenger. But he lost control on the 500-meter long curve approaching the bridge. The bike hit the edge of the bridge, flinging both bodies off the bike.

His girlfriend was found lying face down in a pool of blood on the bridge. Her skull had been fractured. She was wearing a red dress and had scratches all over her body.

She was identified as Ms. Somying Boonbamroongsil, age 16, address 129 Moo 4 Tambon Koksoong, Amphur Koksoong, Sakaew province.

Full story: http://www.pattayada...otorbike-crash/

Warning: some images may be disturbing

-- Pattaya Daily News 2012-08-14

What is it with printing these sort of images - we can (unfortunately) imagine without these poor people and their relatives seeing them so!

[ttelise]

RIP to the woman ,as for the stupid drunk tourist

how do you know the tourist was stupid??????

So he was drunk ,riding a motorbike that he did not know well on roads that he did not know well at high speed and not wearing a crash helmet at 4.30 in the morning with a 16 year old girl on the back ,pray tell what would you call him?

I'd call him a disgusting pedophile.

[ozziebloke]

So O'bloke

The newspaper or wherever the report originates from is 'God' here and can be relied on 100%.

I still come back to the theme of my post.

What on earth has this got to do with the tragic event?

The majority of posts here are Off Topic.................AS ARE MINE!

The fact that a 52 year old has destroyed/taken i childs life.

[ttelise]

So your point is that sex with a 6-year old is okay? I can't see any other reason for making this statement unless you are trying to prove that the law in England may be wrong when you are using this law to justify your opinion that sex with somebody under 18 is okay.

It appears that you have fatally misinterpreted my point. My point is this, and please let me make it clear.

I support the legal age of consent to sex, smoking and gambling to be at the age of 16. I also support giving children in schools as young as 7 years old, sharp metal scissors and support things like abortion and secular thinking.

If we give a good education, and rely on the persons common sense and give them some credibility, instead of treating young girls like they are brain dead magnets to foreign men, who are teen and therefore incapable of making rational decisions, then we can take an objective view on cases like this.

Children who are given scissors with the taught responsibility are less likely or wont cause themselves or others harm, and giving women control over their own bodies and giving them rights goes somewhat to supporting them in the face of societies like you lot.

You take my words and twist them, no, I am explicitly NOT condoning sex with a 6 year old girl. That is disgusting, and a biological, as well as criminal violation. At the age of 13 the human body may be ready for intercourse but I don't think it is appropriate. 16 however, is something I support.

My link was to say to you, if you want age of consent to complain about, go and find a muslim forum board who say its ok to have sex with a girl, in the words of mohammeds sex life for example, when she (aisha) turned 9 years old.

What people forget is that if you say 18 should be the legal age for sex then explain to me the different between 17 years of age with one hour to turn 18, or 1 hour and 5 minutes after. What miraculous change does the body go through in that time?

Back on topic in reply to Kananga:

I would appreciate the references to these quotes you have taken from whatever source you got them. Mapping consent age is very difficult and not in such a scientific context, rather depending instead on the social and cultural norms of the country in question.

I would propose this, if two 16 year olds had sex, then you wouldnt kick up a fuss about it. If a 16 year old and a 60 year old had sex however, you suddenly consign it to the pits, ridiculously and wrongly deeming the behaviour as 'paedophilia' or any other such perversion.

Your sick which is probably why you boogied off to Thailand. If I caught some old wierdo like you with my 17 year old daughter . . .

[Dazzletoad]

So O'bloke

The newspaper or wherever the report originates from is 'God' here and can be relied on 100%.

I still come back to the theme of my post.

What on earth has this got to do with the tragic event?

The majority of posts here are Off Topic.................AS ARE MINE!

Even the metaphoric or representative term of 'god' in the sense of an all knowing power is flawed. The newpapers report, and they don't have the facts. Forensic examination or proper investigation yields these sorts of things, and for you to claim newspapers report the 'truth'?

Haha, you must be a propaganda victim. Let me illuminate your dim sight for a moment.

Some years back in Earls Court in London, I travelled with my friend to see Michael Jackson and all the others at the world music awards. When Michael Jackson came out, everyone almost stampeded to the point of destroying the second level of the arena, in pure excitement, cheering and shouting all kinds of love to him.

The very next day it appeared on british news, and as I distinctly remember in the News of The World, that Michael Jackson was 'booed off stage'. The contrary was true, however, everyone else got a slight boo when the audience realised their next act wasnt MJ. I witnessed the falsity of the media, and you are saying they are 100% right? Or reliable?

Lol..

Edited August 14, 2012 by Dazzletoad

[transam]

RIP to the woman ,as for the stupid drunk tourist

how do you know the tourist was stupid??????

So he was drunk ,riding a motorbike that he did not know well on roads that he did not know well at high speed and not wearing a crash helmet at 4.30 in the morning with a 16 year old girl on the back ,pray tell what would you call him?

I'd call him a disgusting pedophile.

Your wrong.

[Dazzletoad]

Actually it's an accident. Wikipedia definition... An accident or mishap is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention ornecessity. It usually implies a generally negative outcome which may have been avoided or prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence.

I think this is what the vast majority would count as an accident.

You not think Granpa picking up a child prostitute was unavoidable?

You not think Grandpa getting drunk and not making other arrangements to drive was not unavoidable?

You not think getting on the bike drunk with out a saftey helmet (required by law for sober drivers) wasn't unavoidable?

The description of him driving fast and erratic was not avoidable?

The child who go on the bike, it is debatable if it was unavoidable as she was working and probily considered it pat of the job.

I think you will find the insurance company if one is involved will fins that this "accident" if you call it that was avoidable,

Sorry my good fellow, as long as they didnt plan to crash, I would say it was an accident. You are talking about conscious choices, it was not a conscious choice to crash and die, but merely a consequence of some ill made decisions on the part of both involved.

[Nisa]

I would propose this, if two 16 year olds had sex, then you wouldnt kick up a fuss about it. If a 16 year old and a 60 year old had sex however, you suddenly consign it to the pits, ridiculously and wrongly deeming the behaviour as 'paedophilia' or any other such perversion.

That is because one relationship is sick and twisted and unhealthy. It is a bit alarming that you don't see this while the vast majority of the civilized world without mental disorders do.

[transam]

What has age got to do with anything. It seems OK for old film stars and Billionaires, so why the problem with an ordinary guy. PLEASE explain you lot ?.

[Dazzletoad]

I would propose this, if two 16 year olds had sex, then you wouldnt kick up a fuss about it. If a 16 year old and a 60 year old had sex however, you suddenly consign it to the pits, ridiculously and wrongly deeming the behaviour as 'paedophilia' or any other such perversion.

That is because one relationship is sick and twisted and unhealthy. It is a bit alarming that you don't see this while the vast majority of the civilized world without mental disorders do.

The implication that anyone not agreeing with this outrageous stereotype of anyone out of an age bracket that suits you, having any consensual relationship, of being retarded or somehow mentally challenged, destroys the credibility of your posting.

Take a moment to consider that.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Dazzletoad

[Andre0720]

RIP to the woman ,as for the stupid drunk tourist

how do you know the tourist was stupid??????

So he was drunk ,riding a motorbike that he did not know well on roads that he did not know well at high speed and not wearing a crash helmet at 4.30 in the morning with a 16 year old girl on the back ,pray tell what would you call him?

I'd call him a disgusting pedophile.

Well, then you would be wrong.

A pedophile is someone attracted to individuals younger than 13 years old. Children that is. After that, people are called "Teens". And there is a term for people attracted to teens as well. Strange term that I do not remember now. Just check it out. But commonly referred to as 'underage' individuals.

In Thailand, if someone gets sexually involved with an individual who is 'obviously' underage, problems can ensue.

[Dazzletoad]

So your point is that sex with a 6-year old is okay? I can't see any other reason for making this statement unless you are trying to prove that the law in England may be wrong when you are using this law to justify your opinion that sex with somebody under 18 is okay.

It appears that you have fatally misinterpreted my point. My point is this, and please let me make it clear.

I support the legal age of consent to sex, smoking and gambling to be at the age of 16. I also support giving children in schools as young as 7 years old, sharp metal scissors and support things like abortion and secular thinking.

If we give a good education, and rely on the persons common sense and give them some credibility, instead of treating young girls like they are brain dead magnets to foreign men, who are teen and therefore incapable of making rational decisions, then we can take an objective view on cases like this.

Children who are given scissors with the taught responsibility are less likely or wont cause themselves or others harm, and giving women control over their own bodies and giving them rights goes somewhat to supporting them in the face of societies like you lot.

You take my words and twist them, no, I am explicitly NOT condoning sex with a 6 year old girl. That is disgusting, and a biological, as well as criminal violation. At the age of 13 the human body may be ready for intercourse but I don't think it is appropriate. 16 however, is something I support.

My link was to say to you, if you want age of consent to complain about, go and find a muslim forum board who say its ok to have sex with a girl, in the words of mohammeds sex life for example, when she (aisha) turned 9 years old.

What people forget is that if you say 18 should be the legal age for sex then explain to me the different between 17 years of age with one hour to turn 18, or 1 hour and 5 minutes after. What miraculous change does the body go through in that time?

Back on topic in reply to Kananga:

I would appreciate the references to these quotes you have taken from whatever source you got them. Mapping consent age is very difficult and not in such a scientific context, rather depending instead on the social and cultural norms of the country in question.

I would propose this, if two 16 year olds had sex, then you wouldnt kick up a fuss about it. If a 16 year old and a 60 year old had sex however, you suddenly consign it to the pits, ridiculously and wrongly deeming the behaviour as 'paedophilia' or any other such perversion.

Your sick which is probably why you boogied off to Thailand. If I caught some old wierdo like you with my 17 year old daughter . . .

I came here to have a relationship with kids, you are most right.

Teaching.

Just because your shallow and unjustified intolerance towards people of a legal age being outside of the social or personal expected similar age when having intimate relations with another human being, you begin attacking me with implications that I am here for some lewd or distasteful antics with young girls?

Making personal attacks while failing to address your argument leaves little for me to challenge, since the point of your post has been diminished with your own narrow-mindedness.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Dazzletoad

[fishhooks]

Hey Dazzletoad, slow down a bit.

My answer was to ozziebloke and referring to the point that HE was believing what was reported.

Read it again and in context, together with a ? which I should have placed after 100%..........My terrible mistake!

I apologize but still say that this thread, now including my comments are drifting way out of line.

Anything more to be gained............I don't think so!

[Andre0720]

A 52-year-old drunk Norwegian tourist and 17 year old GIRL. What a shame.

Your dead right there, she was just a kid - IF its proved that he was intoxicated, then its another grim statistic.

Sooner the police clamp down on drinking and driving in Thailand, then the safer we'll all be.

Commit any crime you like in Thailand, Just don't murder anyone (in some cases that is) break immigration laws, or get involved with drugs. Anything else goes.

Obviously, your list of crimes that do not go unpunished (unless one hides very well) is far than exhaustive.

Murder, attempted murder, rape, serial thievery, paediphilia, breaking immigration rules are on top of the list. Any others?

[coma]

Drunk old Farang men with 16 year old Thai girls in Chonburi. Is there anything more disgusting ? Can't do it in your own country so come to somebody elses country to do it and give a bad name to all the law abidding types. You all know who you are out there. And you are sick individuals.

Go home and do it in your own country and see how long you last before you either get knocked out by your own kind or end up in jail.. Don't do it here.

Go home go home!!! fools.

[ttelise]

how do you know the tourist was stupid??????

So he was drunk ,riding a motorbike that he did not know well on roads that he did not know well at high speed and not wearing a crash helmet at 4.30 in the morning with a 16 year old girl on the back ,pray tell what would you call him?

I'd call him a disgusting pedophile.

Well, then you would be wrong.

A pedophile is someone attracted to individuals younger than 13 years old. Children that is. After that, people are called "Teens". And there is a term for people attracted to teens as well. Strange term that I do not remember now. Just check it out. But commonly referred to as 'underage' individuals.

In Thailand, if someone gets sexually involved with an individual who is 'obviously' underage, problems can ensue.

The term is sick fijck. You can rationalize it all you want, but that is just a reflection upon you. 52 and 16 is sick. The guy would go directly to jail in the US and become somebody's biotch in jail.

So sad for poor girl to lose her life. Even more sad that society would some how see it as okay or acceptable for a young 16 year old girl to be out at 4:30 a.m. in a bar fornicating with an old disgusting dude nonetheless.

[jcw]

DazelToad, I do concede you have a fair point. If this gentleman was to survive and his "girlfriend" had passed away as a direct result of this 'accident', do you think he would be changed and convicted of causing the death of this young girl, or it would be just a accident? (Presuming he was not rich and bribed the cops and or judge of course)

Actually it's an accident. Wikipedia definition... An accident or mishap is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention ornecessity. It usually implies a generally negative outcome which may have been avoided or prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence.

I think this is what the vast majority would count as an accident.

You not think Granpa picking up a child prostitute was unavoidable?

You not think Grandpa getting drunk and not making other arrangements to drive was not unavoidable?

You not think getting on the bike drunk with out a saftey helmet (required by law for sober drivers) wasn't unavoidable?

The description of him driving fast and erratic was not avoidable?

The child who go on the bike, it is debatable if it was unavoidable as she was working and probily considered it pat of the job.

I think you will find the insurance company if one is involved will fins that this "accident" if you call it that was avoidable,

Sorry my good fellow, as long as they didnt plan to crash, I would say it was an accident. You are talking about conscious choices, it was not a conscious choice to crash and die, but merely a consequence of some ill made decisions on the part of both involved.

[Dazzletoad]

Hey Dazzletoad, slow down a bit.

My answer was to ozziebloke and referring to the point that HE was believing what was reported.

Read it again and in context, together with a ? which I should have placed after 100%..........My terrible mistake!

I apologize but still say that this thread, now including my comments are drifting way out of line.

Anything more to be gained............I don't think so!

Maybe so, but closely related matters on a subject may be discussed here. It is nice to gain some insight and opinion on the matter at hand, regardless of whether or not you think this thread has been exhausted.

[ozziebloke]

What has age got to do with anything. It seems OK for old film stars and Billionaires, so why the problem with an ordinary guy. PLEASE explain you lot ?.

I find old film stars and Billionaires having relations with children disgusting also ! She was a child ! And who said it was OK for old film stars and Billionaires ?

[ratcatcher]

DazelToad, I do concede you have a fair point. If this gentleman was to survive and his "girlfriend" had passed away as a direct result of this 'accident', do you think he would be changed and convicted of causing the death of this young girl, or it would be just a accident? (Presuming he was not rich and bribed the cops and or judge of course)

Actually it's an accident. Wikipedia definition... An accident or mishap is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention ornecessity. It usually implies a generally negative outcome which may have been avoided or prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence.

I think this is what the vast majority would count as an accident.

You not think Granpa picking up a child prostitute was unavoidable?

You not think Grandpa getting drunk and not making other arrangements to drive was not unavoidable?

You not think getting on the bike drunk with out a saftey helmet (required by law for sober drivers) wasn't unavoidable?

The description of him driving fast and erratic was not avoidable?

The child who go on the bike, it is debatable if it was unavoidable as she was working and probily considered it pat of the job.

I think you will find the insurance company if one is involved will fins that this "accident" if you call it that was avoidable,

Sorry my good fellow, as long as they didnt plan to crash, I would say it was an accident. You are talking about conscious choices, it was not a conscious choice to crash and die, but merely a consequence of some ill made decisions on the part of both involved.

" If this gentleman was to survive"

Not wishing to be pedantic, but the use of the word "gentleman" really is inappropriate.

[bosunhiggs]

A pissed up sex tourist and his post pubescent tart in a motorbike accident in Pattaya is making 'news' here now?