webfact Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Ranong on special alert for contagious diseases RANONG, Aug 24 - Thai and Myanmar health officials in Thailand’s southern province of Ranong are working closely to fight against widespread malaria and dengue fever, a Thai health official said Thursday. Dr Thongchai Kiratihattayakorn, a senior health official in Ranong, said continuous efforts by health officials from both countries have been carried out after it was found that the situation of the two contagious diseases had worsened. Health officials have been dispatched to educate people on both sides of the border, Ranong in Thailand and Kaw Thong in Myanmar, on how to prevent the spread of malaria and dengue fever. They also sprayed houses with disinfectant and provided blood tests to people. According to the latest report, a malaria outbreak has worsened in Kraburi district on the Thai-Myanmar border where more than 300 people have been infected with the disease. In Ranong last year, a total of 1,344 people, 857 Myanmar nationals, were infected with malaria and most of them were in Kraburi district. The Public Health Ministry on Wednesday declared it would permanently eliminate malaria in 80 per cent of Thailand by the year 2020. Five malaria-prone provinces are Tak, Ranong, Mae Hong Son, Kanchanaburi and Trat. The first four provinces border Myanmar, which the last borders Cambodia. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2012-08-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Just a well they sprayed disinfectant to kill mosquitos........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Mosquitoes don't travel with passports and visas. Obviously not the only part of Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chiang mai Posted August 24, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! That's what I was thinking, also this isn't news to folks in Ranong, and especially Kra Buri, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! They can - but need the mosquito to bite them in the right sequence. Disinfectant is no use at all. Spraying or fogging standing water would be the best policy and maybe that's what they mean. Edited August 24, 2012 by Moruya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Lol I had a cold last month, dam_n doctor spent 5 minutes trying to convince me it was malaria. She wanted to charge me 400 Baht for a blood test. I told her I could go down the road and get one for a few Baht. Just give me medicine/tablets for this cold. I stopped going to La-Un hospital for serious illness, now it looks minor ailments are off limits too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrysteve Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) 2 Very devastating diseases.. What a hell of a combination...one is bad enough. Edited August 24, 2012 by Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! They can - but need the mosquito to bite them in the right sequence. Disinfectant is no use at all. Spraying or fogging standing water would be the best policy and maybe that's what they mean. They can what, be transmitted from person to person, please explain and in the meantime I'll alert the WHO to these new developments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The problem is the amount of water people have in containers around and in their homes. When the house was being built I had to stop the builder building a Thai style bathroom. They just provide breeding places for the mozzies. Containers outside should hold fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 2 Very devastating diseaseso.. What a hell of a combination...one is bad enough. Malaria and Dengue are both endemic in Thailand so there's nothing new here, Dengue comes from a daytime mosquito whilst Malaria comes from a night time active mosquito, incidents of both diseases tends to spike during the rainy seasons. I would guess it's fairly unusual for someone to contract both diseases at the same time (which is what your post aludes to), or should I say extremely unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! They can - but need the mosquito to bite them in the right sequence. Disinfectant is no use at all. Spraying or fogging standing water would be the best policy and maybe that's what they mean. They can what, be transmitted from person to person, please explain and in the meantime I'll alert the WHO to these new developments! Wiki says in very rare circumstances Dengue can be passed person to person. I was looking the other week, as a friend's step daughter had it, and I was looking it up to point out Aides Mosquito was a day time active mosquito, Edited August 24, 2012 by Mosha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! They can - but need the mosquito to bite them in the right sequence. Disinfectant is no use at all. Spraying or fogging standing water would be the best policy and maybe that's what they mean. They can what, be transmitted from person to person, please explain and in the meantime I'll alert the WHO to these new developments! In order for a mosquito to get the parasite, it needs to bite something that already has it, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! They can - but need the mosquito to bite them in the right sequence. Disinfectant is no use at all. Spraying or fogging standing water would be the best policy and maybe that's what they mean. They can what, be transmitted from person to person, please explain and in the meantime I'll alert the WHO to these new developments! Wiki says in very rare circumstances Dengue can be passed person to person. I was looking the other week, as a friend's step daughter had it, and I was looking it up to point out Aides Mosquito was a day time active mosquito, OK, two points then, Mr Wiki from Dewsbury. I can just about imagine a scenario whereby a dengue carrying mossie feeds off someone unnoticed, flies away sated and blood from the bite leaks out onto the surface of the skin, an amorous partner then happens along and perhaps kisses or licks the others skin thus injecting/absorbing the pthers infected blood, chances of that must be 0.0000000001 in 1 trillion people or similar. Secondly, if the above actually happened, how would anyone actually know it had so as to record the event as a person to person transmission? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! They can - but need the mosquito to bite them in the right sequence. Disinfectant is no use at all. Spraying or fogging standing water would be the best policy and maybe that's what they mean. They can what, be transmitted from person to person, please explain and in the meantime I'll alert the WHO to these new developments! In order for a mosquito to get the parasite, it needs to bite something that already has it, right? Ummm, sounds logical but honestly I don't know, regardless, your point though is? I'm still not there with the idea that person to person transmission can happen and your question above hasn't made it any clearer, spell it out in simple terms, pretend (or don't) that you're talking to a thick person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ummm, sounds logical but honestly I don't know, regardless, your point though is? I'm still not there with the idea that person to person transmission can happen and your question above hasn't made it any clearer, spell it out in simple terms, pretend (or don't) that you're talking to a thick person. Please read my post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 @chiang mai It didn't say. I'm not a wiki fan, I just wanted to show my mate also from Dewsbury, that night time prevention measures won't prevent Dengue fever. Is it Malaysia or Singapore which has stiff fines for having preventable mosquito breeding spots outside the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) 2 Very devastating disease so.. What a hell of a combination...one is bad enough. Yeah it can knock you around ,a work mate in Indonesia with both disease was flowin out, never saw him again , I seen him off on the chopper, he looked like death warmed up, moral of story, never go to sleep drunk outside in the tropic's. Edited August 24, 2012 by chainarong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sunshine51 Posted August 24, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Dengue & Malaria...I've had both and they're nothing to brag nor be proud of having. The vector for dengue is the Aedes mosquito while malaria is spread by the culex mosquito. The aedes bites mostly during the day and the culex at night however there is an overlap around dawn & dusk. A very, read extremely unlucky, person can have both dengue and malaria at the same time but this is extremely rare. There are now 4 strains of Dengue...A-B-C & D. Type A is the most common which starts out like a cold or flu but then things change rapidly....very high fever develops along with a rash first presenting itself on ones hands, arms back etc. At around this time the headache associated with the common cold or flu and similar in the early stage of dengue gets worse...imagine a white hot metal rod being slowly pushed through your head....that's an easy example. Extreme weakness and apathy set in and continues for about 10-12 days (in my case). Jaundice may or may not manifest. There is no "cure" or "prophylactic" for dengue as there is for malaria. Dengue treatment is symptomatic...i.e...treat for fever, headache etc. Dengue B-D are supposedly the hemmoragic varieties and one can easily tell if one has these by looking at the whites of ones eyes...they'll turn bright red. Then there may be blood in the urine or poop...get to a hospital fast if you get a flu like illness and you notice yer eyes are blood red and you pee is tainted red...again there is nothing anybody can do but treat each symptome. Malaria starts the same way as dengue...like the flu starts. But then things change very rapidly...usually beginning with the fever that rises rapidly and then dissipates with a feeling of coldness through the body (flashing hot & cold). The muscle and joint aches set in and become worse. The apathy sets in. One generally feels something worse than road kill looks etc... etc...etc. Get to a hospital so the doc's can figure out what type of malaria you have (2 types ovum and falciparum, the latter can be deadly but both are nasty) and begin to administer the proper meds. There are numerous drug resistant strains of both ovum and falciparum malaria...and a few that can only be treated with the antibiotic vibramycin instead of antimalarials. Best thing is to not get bitten. Hard to do that especially with the aedes mossie since it's so small and bites in the day so ya just don't notice it. Both the aedes and culex mosquito have to draw blood from someone/thing that has already been infected before they can pass it on to some unlucky person and both mossies have an approximate range of 30 KM's per day. Spraying with disinfectant does no good at all except to kill bacteria on or about your property and this won't kill mossies. Anti mosquito fogging and spraying with the proper insecticide does work. Ensure there is no standing water on your property. Turn flowerpot bases upside down so when the plants get watered the water won't accumulate in the base. If you have a "squatter" keep it covered unless you're squatting on it and after using it give the inside a good spray of mossie killer. Mind you if you're a smoker give a few more minutes before spraying if you've just tossed a ciggie down the hole! Keep water cisterns covered at all times...the big ceramic ones...if you have em. And if you're growing water lillies or lotus in a water cistern put the powder "Abate" into the water...it kills mossie larvae and leaves the plants alone. Keep trash can lids closed and if you see a pile of plastic bags get the trashmen to clean the mess up...mossies only need a small bit of water for their eggs to hatch... about a teaspoon size will do nicely. Use that thing called common sense, which is pretty uncommon today and you'll be all right during dengue season...which is now by the way. Malaria season is 365 days long FYI. I hope this helps somebody. Spread the word amongst friends and your neighbourhood. Clean up the neighbour- hood in fact. This info I'm passing comes from personal trauma and the book "Medicine In The Tropcs" by A. W. Woodruff plus the Center for Disease Control (CDC) website... www.cdc.gov. edited to correct fat finger on small keyitis. Edited August 24, 2012 by sunshine51 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 @chiang mai It didn't say. I'm not a wiki fan, I just wanted to show my mate also from Dewsbury, that night time prevention measures won't prevent Dengue fever. Is it Malaysia or Singapore which has stiff fines for having preventable mosquito breeding spots outside the house? Both countries have stiff fines...if me memory serves me right SGP has a 5000 Singapore dollar fine and Mal has a 2500 ringit fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ummm, sounds logical but honestly I don't know, regardless, your point though is? I'm still not there with the idea that person to person transmission can happen and your question above hasn't made it any clearer, spell it out in simple terms, pretend (or don't) that you're talking to a thick person. Please read my post again. I have and I'm still no closer to understanding how anyone thinks that human to human transmission is possible, with involving an intermediary, aka a mossie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefb1964 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Dengue & Malaria...I've had both and they're nothing to brag nor be proud of having. The vector for dengue is the Aedes mosquito while malaria is spread by the culex mosquito. The aedes bites mostly during the day and the culex at night however there is an overlap around dawn & dusk. A very, read extremely unlucky, person can have both dengue and malaria at the same time but this is extremely rare. There are now 4 strains of Dengue...A-B-C & D. Type A is the most common which starts out like a cold or flu but then things change rapidly....very high fever develops along with a rash first presenting itself on ones hands, arms back etc. At around this time the headache associated with the common cold or flu and similar in the early stage of dengue gets worse...imagine a white hot metal rod being slowly pushed through your head....that's an easy example. Extreme weakness and apathy set in and continues for about 10-12 days (in my case). Jaundice may or may not manifest. There is no "cure" or "prophylactic" for dengue as there is for malaria. Dengue treatment is symptomatic...i.e...treat for fever, headache etc. Dengue B-D are supposedly the hemmoragic varieties and one can easily tell if one has these by looking at the whites of ones eyes...they'll turn bright red. Then there may be blood in the urine or poop...get to a hospital fast if you get a flu like illness and you notice yer eyes are blood red and you pee is tainted red...again there is nothing anybody can do but treat each symptome. Malaria starts the same way as dengue...like the flu starts. But then things change very rapidly...usually beginning with the fever that rises rapidly and then dissipates with a feeling of coldness through the body (flashing hot & cold). The muscle and joint aches set in and become worse. The apathy sets in. One generally feels something worse than road kill looks etc... etc...etc. Get to a hospital so the doc's can figure out what type of malaria you have (2 types ovum and falciparum, the latter can be deadly but both are nasty) and begin to administer the proper meds. There are numerous drug resistant strains of both ovum and falciparum malaria...and a few that can only be treated with the antibiotic vibramycin instead of antimalarials. Best thing is to not get bitten. Hard to do that especially with the aedes mossie since it's so small and bites in the day so ya just don't notice it. Both the aedes and culex mosquito have to draw blood from someone/thing that has already been infected before they can pass it on to some unlucky person and both mossies have an approximate range of 30 KM's per day. Spraying with disinfectant does no good at all except to kill bacteria on or about your property and this won't kill mossies. Anti mosquito fogging and spraying with the proper insecticide does work. Ensure there is no standing water on your property. Turn flowerpot bases upside down so when the plants get watered the water won't accumulate in the base. If you have a "squatter" keep it covered unless you're squatting on it and after using it give the inside a good spray of mossie killer. Mind you if you're a smoker give a few more minutes before spraying if you've just tossed a ciggie down the hole! Keep water cisterns covered at all times...the big ceramic ones...if you have em. And if you're growing water lillies or lotus in a water cistern put the powder "Abate" into the water...it kills mossie larvae and leaves the plants alone. Keep trash can lids closed and if you see a pile of plastic bags get the trashmen to clean the mess up...mossies only need a small bit of water for their eggs to hatch... about a teaspoon size will do nicely. Use that thing called common sense, which is pretty uncommon today and you'll be all right during dengue season...which is now by the way. Malaria season is 365 days long FYI. I hope this helps somebody. Spread the word amongst friends and your neighbourhood. Clean up the neighbour- hood in fact. This info I'm passing comes from personal trauma and the book "Medicine In The Tropcs" by A. W. Woodruff plus the Center for Disease Control (CDC) website... www.cdc.gov. edited to correct fat finger on small keyitis. Thanks, very informative post.. coming to CM by the end of September. Let the battle begin ! Edited August 24, 2012 by stefb1964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ummm, sounds logical but honestly I don't know, regardless, your point though is? I'm still not there with the idea that person to person transmission can happen and your question above hasn't made it any clearer, spell it out in simple terms, pretend (or don't) that you're talking to a thick person. If you don't know the life cycle of the parasite, you should research it before launching missives at people who understand it better. Mosquito comes along, sucks up some blood from an infected person or other animal, sleeps of her meal and goes for another feast on an uninfected person. You then have another infected person. The same could be achieved by using a syringe to extract some blood from the first and inject it into the second. The same could be achieved by any means of blood to blood transfer but is highly unlikely in normal life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ummm, sounds logical but honestly I don't know, regardless, your point though is? I'm still not there with the idea that person to person transmission can happen and your question above hasn't made it any clearer, spell it out in simple terms, pretend (or don't) that you're talking to a thick person. Please read my post again. I have and I'm still no closer to understanding how anyone thinks that human to human transmission is possible, with involving an intermediary, aka a mossie. Chiang Mai.... Maybe I can help...Let's say I have malaria and I'm contagious....in other words the malaria parasite (unlike bacteria or virus) is actively breeding in my liver and bloodstream...and I'm in the hospital wishing I was dead. One night a culex mosquito gets inside the hospital and sucks up some of my blood then later she (only female mosquitos do this) flies over to your house and sucks up some of your blood cause she's a really hungry chick. In the process of sucking up some of your blood she also gives you a little bit of my blood (remember it has a few squillion malaria parasites in it) in the process. About a week to ten days later you begin to feel like you're gonna have the flu only to learn that instead of getting better in say 5 to 7 days time...you get much worse and decide to see a doctor who then refers you to a hospital who in the end...if you live...will hand you a whopping bill! Another scenario.... You & I are mates....I have malaria...you don't and come to visit my sorry ass in the hospital. I sneeze, you inhale and in doing so some of my sneeze gets into your lungs. You say a few unkind words to me but since I'm sick we laugh it all off. I get released from the hospital say 2 weeks later and, providing you've never been bitten by a malaria carrying female mossie, or how many bevvies you had at the pub...you feel fine and as normal as normal is in your definition of normal. We then have a beer and discuss how I'm gonna pay that massive hospital bill I have just received. Malaria can only be transmitted via a FEMALE mosquito that has the malaria parasite in her gut....a human can't get it in any other way...as far as I know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! Mot completely true. They are transferred by the mosquito but the mosquito has to have bitten a person first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xray Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! My understanding is that you are correct in this statement. The transmission of either of these diseases from one person to another requires an intermediary 'vehicle', i.e., mosquito, hypodermic needle, blood transfusion, etc.. URL to the CDC website and an article regarding malaria; an excerpt from the article below. http://www.cdc.gov/m...about/faqs.html "Is malaria a contagious disease? No. Malaria is not spread from person to person like a cold or the flu, and it cannot be sexually transmitted. You cannot get malaria from casual contact with malaria-infected people, such as sitting next to someone who has malaria." URL to the Only My Health website and an article regarding dengue fever; an excerpt from the article below. http://www.onlymyhea...ious-1301653693 "Dengue is considered to be a non-contagious disease. It never transmits from a person to another person and hence is not contagious." Edited August 24, 2012 by xray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happynthailand Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Well this is Thailand everything here is a contagious disease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Ummm, sounds logical but honestly I don't know, regardless, your point though is? I'm still not there with the idea that person to person transmission can happen and your question above hasn't made it any clearer, spell it out in simple terms, pretend (or don't) that you're talking to a thick person. If you don't know the life cycle of the parasite, you should research it before launching missives at people who understand it better. Mosquito comes along, sucks up some blood from an infected person or other animal, sleeps of her meal and goes for another feast on an uninfected person. You then have another infected person. The same could be achieved by using a syringe to extract some blood from the first and inject it into the second. The same could be achieved by any means of blood to blood transfer but is highly unlikely in normal life. Well, but that is still not transmitted person to person. Even if an infected person breaths, scratches or even bites another person (what does happen), I don't believe they would get malaria, dengue, japanes encapetilitys or elephantitis. So, NOT contageous. Mosquito to person to mosquito to person OK everything else is just unrealistic. Edited August 24, 2012 by JoeLing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I don't buy this crap about transmssion from person to person, any disease is transmisable from human to human if bodily fluids are exchanged, that fact alone however does not make dengue or malaria contagious diseases and I don't care who understands the life cycle, sex life and entertainment habits of the parasite or if they even have some as good and close friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petertimo Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Malaria and Dengue are not contagious diseases, they cannot be transmitted from person to person!!! True, but people can give the diseases to other mosquitoes and spread the disease like that. If an infected person moves from one place to another it will infect the mosquitoes at the new destination when being bitten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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