eyecatcher Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Or... does anyone have actual experience or proof that this guy is a fake. I've just seen waaaay too many people castigated here in TV Apparently it's quite simple. The Court of Thaivisa has indicted him of fakery and found him guilty of this charge. He is now severely reprimanded for his wrongdoing. Appeals are rarely granted, I'm afraid to tell you my good man. shall we grant the OP a conditional discharge on this occasion on the proviso he makes a concerted effort to write a creative thread in future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertmembernamehere Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think aside from the allegations of fraud, there is the matter of working illegally. Since the rest of us have to abide (and do) by the law, it makes perfect sense to report anyone breaking that law. Why screw up a person's life by reporting his illegal activities? Does this nonsensical line apply only to allegedly fake health care workers or pickpockets as well? It is up to the individual, but for some, reporting illegal activities is a duty for those who have spent their lives living abroad as a guest and who have always toed the legal line. "Look! That guy broke into the gold shop and is making off with all those necklaces! We should call the police right away!" "Hah, that would only screw up his life. Leave him be." ....or that guy helped his wife clear a table in their cafe, or that guy is teaching English without a wp, ... the guy playing a saxaphone in a club..... bust em all ! ? Let's not split hairs. The first example is just a technical abuse of the law. The guy teaching English without a work permit -- definitely. I taught English many years ago abroad and managed to follow the law to enable me to do it legally. I see no reason why the foreigners in Thailand who jump through the right hoops to do the same should be made fools of by allowing others to work illegally. Sort of defeats the whole purpose of going through the procedure to teach legally when others seemingly can do anything they want without following the law (and should they be competing for people that I might otherwise have as students?). Playing an instrument in a club? If it's for pay, sure; working means doing something for money or remuneration of some sort. If someone is just jamming for free or for charity, then no problem (and if the police take umbrage at that, it's the same misuse of the law in the first example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Or... does anyone have actual experience or proof that this guy is a fake. I've just seen waaaay too many people castigated here in TV Apparently it's quite simple. The Court of Thaivisa has indicted him of fakery and found him guilty of this charge. He is now severely reprimanded for his wrongdoing. Appeals are rarely granted, I'm afraid to tell you my good man. shall we grant the OP a conditional discharge on this occasion on the proviso he makes a concerted effort to write a creative thread in future? Considering the seriousness of the OP's wrongdoing, by making these unsupported accusations, it might be difficult to persuade others. In my opinion, a conditional discharge on the proviso could be granted. However, a stronger case can be made, if he is also willing to change his avatar to something more believable. Edited August 31, 2012 by Morakot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted August 31, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think aside from the allegations of fraud, there is the matter of working illegally. Since the rest of us have to abide (and do) by the law, it makes perfect sense to report anyone breaking that law. Why screw up a person's life by reporting his illegal activities? Does this nonsensical line apply only to allegedly fake health care workers or pickpockets as well? It is up to the individual, but for some, reporting illegal activities is a duty for those who have spent their lives living abroad as a guest and who have always toed the legal line. "Look! That guy broke into the gold shop and is making off with all those necklaces! We should call the police right away!" "Hah, that would only screw up his life. Leave him be." ....or that guy helped his wife clear a table in their cafe, or that guy is teaching English without a wp, ... the guy playing a saxaphone in a club..... bust em all ! ? Let's not split hairs. The first example is just a technical abuse of the law. The guy teaching English without a work permit -- definitely. I taught English many years ago abroad and managed to follow the law to enable me to do it legally. I see no reason why the foreigners in Thailand who jump through the right hoops to do the same should be made fools of by allowing others to work illegally. Sort of defeats the whole purpose of going through the procedure to teach legally when others seemingly can do anything they want without following the law (and should they be competing for people that I might otherwise have as students?). Playing an instrument in a club? If it's for pay, sure; working means doing something for money or remuneration of some sort. If someone is just jamming for free or for charity, then no problem (and if the police take umbrage at that, it's the same misuse of the law in the first example). So basicly your ego is involved, as they would make you feel a "fool" for having obtained the proper permit while the unpermitted teacher had not. Very telling. Or do you find pleasure in subjecting others to the corrupton of the Thai legal system? Pathetic attitude for a farang. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realthaideal Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think aside from the allegations of fraud, there is the matter of working illegally. Since the rest of us have to abide (and do) by the law, it makes perfect sense to report anyone breaking that law. Why screw up a person's life by reporting his illegal activities? Does this nonsensical line apply only to allegedly fake health care workers or pickpockets as well? It is up to the individual, but for some, reporting illegal activities is a duty for those who have spent their lives living abroad as a guest and who have always toed the legal line. "Look! That guy broke into the gold shop and is making off with all those necklaces! We should call the police right away!" "Hah, that would only screw up his life. Leave him be." ....or that guy helped his wife clear a table in their cafe, or that guy is teaching English without a wp, ... the guy playing a saxaphone in a club..... bust em all ! ? Let's not split hairs. The first example is just a technical abuse of the law. The guy teaching English without a work permit -- definitely. I taught English many years ago abroad and managed to follow the law to enable me to do it legally. I see no reason why the foreigners in Thailand who jump through the right hoops to do the same should be made fools of by allowing others to work illegally. Sort of defeats the whole purpose of going through the procedure to teach legally when others seemingly can do anything they want without following the law (and should they be competing for people that I might otherwise have as students?). Playing an instrument in a club? If it's for pay, sure; working means doing something for money or remuneration of some sort. If someone is just jamming for free or for charity, then no problem (and if the police take umbrage at that, it's the same misuse of the law in the first example). In this very very small town, why make enemies ? In the eyes of the local culture, "They do, but that not my business." The OP has made it clear he is more than happy to be a hall monitor, a snitch. These are .... insignificant things to most of us. Clearly some sort of innate unhappiness has followed you here to this land. That's rough. Might I suggest a 10 day meditation retreat ? And if sticking by the laws we all must obey, this thread skirts the edge of the Thai slander/libel laws. Quite arguably worthy of intervention by the powers that be, or very very close in just a couple more comments. So maybe best look into some legal advice soon, OP, as you may need it after REPORTING YOURSELF FOR BREAKING THE LAW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Quite arguably worthy of intervention by the powers that be, or very very close in just a couple more comments. So maybe best look into some legal advice soon, OP, as you may need it after REPORTING YOURSELF FOR BREAKING THE LAW. Relax! The OP might not be a malafidarian. Why not use the opportunity and talk about "hypnosis"? What is your experience and perception of hypnosis in terms of treating ailments or providing entertainment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Was there any issue with the hypnosis? I couldn't stop looking at the swirling circles. Been looking at that for the last 6 hours. Just snapped out of it. Funny thing is, I feel much better than i did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Or... does anyone have actual experience or proof that this guy is a fake. I've just seen waaaay too many people castigated here in TV Apparently it's quite simple. The Court of Thaivisa has indicted him of fakery and found him guilty of this charge. He is now severely reprimanded for his wrongdoing. Appeals are rarely granted, I'm afraid to tell you my good man. shall we grant the OP a conditional discharge on this occasion on the proviso he makes a concerted effort to write a creative thread in future? Considering the seriousness of the OP's wrongdoing, by making these unsupported accusations, it might be difficult to persuade others. In my opinion, a conditional discharge on the proviso could be granted. However, a stronger case can be made, if he is also willing to change his avatar to something more believable. and his screen name: he is taking a risk himself with the law....what must his fingers smell like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Was there any issue with the hypnosis? I couldn't stop looking at the swirling circles. Been looking at that for the last 6 hours. Just snapped out of it. Funny thing is, I feel much better than i did Are the swirling circles and the famous dangling pocket watch just a myth? What do hypnotists actually do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anselpixel Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Talented hypnotists just talk to you. I think spindazzle is more for the stage variety of practitioner. None of it is going to "cure" anything that isn't psychosomatic in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 I just wanted to warn people out there I been accuse of being a rat unhappy,snitch,well I am nothing like that, My reason for the Post was the guy is taking a way business from people who work here legally,and I am sure a real hypnotist can be helpful for those who need it For the person who does not like my screen name My screen name comes from fishing ever day for years in Central America. I am very Happy Here and decided this forum is good for just asking questions.If you don't like my post plz. don't read it.Have a good day I always do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Let's not split hairs. The first example is just a technical abuse of the law. Splitting hairs is what the law is all about... I see no reason why the foreigners in Thailand who jump through the right hoops to do the same should be made fools of by allowing others to work illegally. So basicly your ego is involved, as they would make you feel a "fool" for having obtained the proper permit while the unpermitted teacher had not. Very telling. ... and that's the name of that tune. Talented hypnotists just talk to you. Hypnosis is just another form of communication. It's a way of talking and listening without your ego 'filters' blocking out what's being said before your brain gets to really process it. It's not magic. It's not trickery. It's a way to get one person to listen to another and actually hear what is being said. There is no "gee, I don't think so cuz my grandma said xyz and I believed her." Hypnosis gets 'past' what grandma said, or what Madison Ave Advertising says, or what your over-bearing boss tries to make you think about yourself. It's just talk, but it's talk that you really hear. You still have the option of 'believing or disregarding' what you are hearing. That part is always up to you. Hypnotists just are able to get you to hear the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) [the same again] What's the matter? Are you trying to say he is taking your business away? Edited August 31, 2012 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) I still haven't heard anyone telling us that they tried this man's services and were not satisfied with them. Fishman, why do you believe that he is a fake? Has he treated you for something? Edited August 31, 2012 by FolkGuitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Fishman, why do you believe that he is a fake? See #40!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 See #40!? You mean where Fishman says; "He Does not have a beard not sure where you got that but 100% Fake I google him like a month ago only refercence was place he stays at then someone said to him that and he changed it to lots of fake reference one was the CM Post he put his ad in come on what Real Dr has know history all fake O.k." With 'evidence' and 'fact' like this, I'm amazed that the man hasn't been drawn and quartered, with his head on a pike atop Thapae Gate! Has ANYONE here actually used this guys services and has been dissatisfied? Does anyone here KNOW someone who has used this guys services and has been dissatisfied? Or are the past 75 posts here ALL based on Fisherman's comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does anyone here KNOW someone who has used this guys services and has been dissatisfied? Nope. Or are the past 75 posts here ALL based on Fisherman's comments? Yep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 // Motion closure. // Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Good I am tired of posting on this subject stick a fork in me I am well done now let's see the Monkey one more time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 // Motion closure. // Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weary Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Talented hypnotists just talk to you. I think spindazzle is more for the stage variety of practitioner. None of it is going to "cure" anything that isn't psychosomatic in nature. That's probably true - but surprisingly many ailments are psychosomatic. In reality, there is no clear separation between 'mind' and 'body', they are both part of the same system, and what affects one usually has some effect on the other, too. Edited August 31, 2012 by weary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacktrip Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He prays on the weak. much like some of the other popular joints in town... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 TheFishman1, on 2012-08-30 07:47:41, said: He prays on the weak. Well, at least he's not stupid. Who would pray on the strong? One does NOT need a medical degree to be a practicing hypnotist. Not even a degree in Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) which is an approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created in the 1970s, made famous by Milton Erickson and Richard Bandler. You may remember the "Balinese Fire Walking Seminars" that were so popularize by Anthony Robbins about 20 years ago... Folks attending week-end lectures at Holiday Inns and other low-end hotel meeting rooms, capped off by walking barefoot across burning coals. I even attended one myself and made the walk. No problems. But if Anthony Robbins tried to offer his Fire Walking Seminar in Chiang Mai, and ran it at Baan Thai, this Fishman would be calling him a fake too. Today, Robbins is a multi-millionaire lecturer on Self-Help. His methods are all based on NLP... or what most of us think of as Hypnosis. I wonder if he wears a beard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 // Motion closure. // Seconded. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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