webfact Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM Yingluck brushes aside reports of broken dam in Chaiyaphum PHITSANULOK, 14 September 2012 (NNT) – The Prime Minister has brushed aside reports of a broken dam in Chaiyaphum Province. During the flood inspection trip to Phitsanulok Province on Friday, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, confirmed that the dam in Chaiyaphum Province was not ruptured as some reports had suggested. The PM, however, conceded that the problem of the leak was caused by a void on an unfinished reservoir, coupled with rain-induced increase in the water mass in the basin that led to an overflow. On a positive note, PM Yingluck said that the reports have indicated Chaiyaphum’s readiness to share its information with other agencies in flood prevention efforts. She said further that a large reservoir would be constructed to retain more water in the future and the public should have a clear understanding of such a need. The Prime Minister said that even though all water management-related data is ready on the ‘water 4 thai’ application, more information is needed to enable officials to make an easy-to-understand analysis for the public. -- NNT 2012-09-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM asserts water situation under control; denies rumour Chaiyaphum dam failed, says it is only leaking; orders speed up of Yom River drainage /MCOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whybother Posted September 14, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM asserts water situation under control; denies rumour Chaiyaphum dam failed, says it is only leaking; orders speed up of Yom River drainage /MCOT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM asserts water situation under control; denies rumour Chaiyaphum dam failed, says it is only leaking; orders speed up of Yom River drainage /MCOT Water situation under control? I think that just maybe she should check with the people who are under 1-2 meters of water due to a slight seepage. They may beg to differ. And of course we all know that a leaking dam is no problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Are her statements in this article for real? Almost makes you long to hear from Professor Plod. Edited September 14, 2012 by bigbamboo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Just once it would be nice to hear her say "I am aware of the situation and we are working on a solution" All we hear is "no problem" "not aware" .. yada yada yada 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM asserts water situation under control; denies rumour Chaiyaphum dam failed, says it is only leaking; orders speed up of Yom River drainage /MCOT Water situation under control? I think that just maybe she should check with the people who are under 1-2 meters of water due to a slight seepage. They may beg to differ. And of course we all know that a leaking dam is no problem at all. No, no problem at all, like all problems, if you ignore it long enough it will go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fareastguy Posted September 14, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2012 No, no problem at all, like all problems, if you ignore it long enough it will go away. Didn't work with my missus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fstarbkk Posted September 14, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. You're right in as much as the buck stop with her... including the responsibility for ensuring that she has comepetent and responsible people keeping her informed on critical matters. I also agree with you that nobody expects her to know everything. In fact, based on her track record, most people don't expect her to know anything. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM asserts water situation under control; denies rumour Chaiyaphum dam failed, says it is only leaking; orders speed up of Yom River drainage /MCOT I like the way that she (Yingluck) attempts to sound 'all inteligent' and in control of the situation when in reality she hasn't a clue about what is happening and what to do about it - being surrounded by a bunch of impositioned family members and Thaksin's old school buddies doesn't exactly help matters either. She is going to need as much luck as god grants her (plus a good bit more) to get out of this mess!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResX Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 By now Thailand should have all the information required and should have the final idea about how to go about it. One more thing is reservoir under constuction should have been protected by diversion tunnel. It is quite strange to know trhis is not the case for this reservoir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. You're right in as much as the buck stop with her... including the responsibility for ensuring that she has comepetent and responsible people keeping her informed on critical matters. I also agree with you that nobody expects her to know everything. In fact, based on her track record, most people don't expect her to know anything. Exactly, which is why it is even more vital that people are appointed to positions who do know something and can feed her the information she needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She doesn't subscribe to "The buck stops here" idea then. Or would that be "The buck stops in Dubai"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. You're right in as much as the buck stop with her... including the responsibility for ensuring that she has comepetent and responsible people keeping her informed on critical matters. I also agree with you that nobody expects her to know everything. In fact, based on her track record, most people don't expect her to know anything. Exactly, which is why it is even more vital that people are appointed to positions who do know something and can feed her the information she needs. When she has all the info, she will pass it upstairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 "... The PM, however, conceded that the problem of the leak was caused by a void on an unfinished reservoir, coupled with rain-induced increase in the water mass" So how does that differ from ... "... Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, confirmed that the dam in Chaiyaphum Province was not ruptured." Water breaking through the dam_n means the dam_n ain't whole - why deal in semantics? Seems to me one is a "white lie" - you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Not ruptured, just a small leak, unfinished reservoir. On the bright side information sharing with other agencies works. In other words, "operation successful, patient died" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM asserts water situation under control; denies rumour Chaiyaphum dam failed, says it is only leaking; orders speed up of Yom River drainage /MCOT Kinda like the dead parrot sketch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 PM asserts water situation under control; denies rumour Chaiyaphum dam failed, says it is only leaking; orders speed up of Yom River drainage /MCOT The fascinating aspect of a well-balanced water management system is the ability 'to predict the effect of tweeking here on the situation there'. In other words, a speed up of drainage of the Yom river should have known effects on areas downstream. That's why with so much confidence the PM can order 'speed up' knowing her NWRFPC and a few other abbreviations have all under control. PS if people downstreams feel like panicking now may be the right time, IMHO ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjaidee Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. Of course she doesn't know everything. It's the same in any government in the world. Her problem is that she won't admit that she doesn't know. She's apt to making sweeping statements based on nothing more than optimism. Once the Thai people can overcome the culture of "face" then, and only then, will things start to get done properly in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. You fancy her don't ya? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbear Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. You fancy her don't ya? Dam she's better looking than her brother, thats for sure. (tht's right I used the word dam to make a joke but it isn't as funny as her joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She doesn't subscribe to "The buck stops here" idea then. Or would that be "The buck stops in Dubai"? it's more of a case that the bucks go to Dubai Seems as if there are some questionable projects in the flood prevention scheme and all is not as financially correct in the way funds have been allocated and employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 No, no problem at all, like all problems, if you ignore it long enough it will go away. I am just hoping Bangkok doesn't go away first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabel Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. So why do they refer to it as " Chaiyaphum dam " if it is pnly a reservoir ...............???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. So why do they refer to it as " Chaiyaphum dam " if it is pnly a reservoir ...............???? Splitting hairs in terms of language. Bloody great body of water behind a wall. One generates electricity one doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soi Sauce Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 3.2 billion dollars 'dispersed' for flood prevention, and no work done. Where did it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizardtongue Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 At least she didn't fuel the rumor that her brother was being allowed back to plug the slight leak with his finger, his fingers are in so many other pies why not a leaking dam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Titanic had a leak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noistar Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) She was correct in what she said first that the dam was not broken. What she she should have followed up with is, "it is a reservoir and not a dam and I am not up to date on that particular problem, however I will get someone to check it out and let me know". Nobody expects her to know everything though she gets the blame for it all but if there IS a problem like that her various flood committees should have kept her up to date. Overall the responsibility stops with her but if she isn't told then a lot of the problems are not hers. So why do her script writers keep feeding her these lines? She's intelligent enough to know what's she's reading and is the only person to blame if she reads the statement publicly. Stop defending her. The buck stops. full stop Edited September 15, 2012 by Noistar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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