Yingluck Satisfied With Flood Response Plan

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PM satisfied with flood response plan

BANGKOK, Sept 15 -- Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Saturday expressed satisfaction with her government's flood response plan after flood hit Sukhothai returned to normal in three days.

Speaking her weekly TV programme "The Yingluck Government Meets the People", live from Krabi, the prime minister said she inspected the flood situation in Sukhothai and Phitsanulok earlier this week and found that the situation in Sukhothai was severely beyond the ability of the local authorities to handle.

The Interior Ministry extended assistance to support the work of the local authorities and plans were adjusted to respond more effectively and the situation could return to normal in three days, she said.

The premier asserted that the government's water and flood management in Bangkok and the provinces could effectively drain the water. However, if there was rain, the water could overflow and clog the drainage systems, but the situation could return to normal within days.

Ms Yingluck said he was satisfied with this year's flood response plan, compared to last year's response. She said the public could follow news on the government website and social media such as smart phones.

She stressed that all provinces were instructed to prepare flood response plans and systematic water management plans. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-09-15

[rubl]

The Flood Response Plan may work (although a few might have serious doubts), a "prevention" plan seems non-existent.

Also this "could effectively drain the water. However, if there was rain, the water could overflow and clog the drainage systems, but the situation could return to normal within days." is interesting. Rain in the form of water can clog the drainage system? Must be a case of 'lost in translation' (I hope)

[Thai at Heart]

How about the flood prevention plan?

You really cant make these stories up this badly can you?

[theblether]

To be fair there may have to be a lot more remedial work done on the drainage system, it's a work in progress. It would be interesting to hear from residents in the affected areas how they felt the situation was handled compared to previous years.

It's far far too easy and predictable to criticize Yingluck on this issue, the lack of investment over decades is the primary cause of the excessively damaging floods, along with poor planning laws, deforestation etc.

All you can look for is a year on year improvement.

[473geo]

How about the flood prevention plan?

You really cant make these stories up this badly can you?

Is there not discussion proposing another dam?

[MEL1]

"Speaking her weekly TV programme "The Yingluck Government Meets the People", live from Krabi, the prime minister said she inspected the flood situation in Sukhothai and Phitsanulok earlier this week and found that the situation in Sukhothai was severely beyond the ability of the local authorities to handle."

First: She did 'promise' that there would be no floods this year. Did she forget what she said?

Second: She had various days away from the House in order to meet governors of all provinces, and to issue them with instructions. If she could not perceive the abilities of local governors then why on earth did she hold those meetings in the first place?

Third: When or if water of flooding levels, and that includes over unmoveable 40cm+ for some time, reach Ayutthaya, Pathumthani, Nontaburi etc. for a second year, will she suddenly then say that those governors were not capable?

Her head is still too much in the fog of Chiang Mai..... nothing better than 'Home Sweet Home'. - Wish she'd go there, for a long visit.

-mel.

[theblether]

How about the flood prevention plan?

You really cant make these stories up this badly can you?

You didn't seriously expect the flood prevention plan to be fully implemented in one year did you? Get real......this is a massive civil engineering project that will take years of effort and investment to implement.

What they will then find is that as they strengthen in some crucial areas the water will find the structural weakness elsewhere, so this will be a work in progress forever and a day.

However that being said, Thai politicians need to learn to make mature comments and promises, and stop making stupid unachievable Big Fat Claims that they have no chance whatsoever of achieving.

That would be a start, then again that would annoy the life out of some TV members who's reason for existence is to pick holes in all things Thai. Oh well.

[rubl]

begin removed ...

Her head is still too much in the fog of Chiang Mai..... nothing better than 'Home Sweet Home'. - Wish she'd go there, for a long visit.

-mel.

You may have missed this tweet in Thailand Live Saturday 15th September #28

"Posted Today, 11:18

RT @Porpich: Muang Chiang Mai is already flooded from torrent."

[daftpunker]

ok good

Edited September 15, 2012 by daftpunker

[Thai at Heart]

How about the flood prevention plan?

You really cant make these stories up this badly can you?

You didn't seriously expect the flood prevention plan to be fully implemented in one year did you? Get real......this is a massive civil engineering project that will take years of effort and investment to implement.

What they will then find is that as they strengthen in some crucial areas the water will find the structural weakness elsewhere, so this will be a work in progress forever and a day.

However that being said, Thai politicians need to learn to make mature comments and promises, and stop making stupid unachievable Big Fat Claims that they have no chance whatsoever of achieving.

That would be a start, then again that would annoy the life out of some TV members who's reason for existence is to pick holes in all things Thai. Oh well.

Not one year no. But how long does it take to build or inspect a wall, identify the problem areas etc etc?

[dcutman]

To be fair there may have to be a lot more remedial work done on the drainage system, it's a work in progress. It would be interesting to hear from residents in the affected areas how they felt the situation was handled compared to previous years.

It's far far too easy and predictable to criticize Yingluck on this issue, the lack of investment over decades is the primary cause of the excessively damaging floods, along with poor planning laws, deforestation etc.

All you can look for is a year on year improvement.

Sir all due respect that is BS

The flood in Sukhothai was totally avoidable. After the floods of last year receded, every inch of flood walls should have been inspected, and repaired. I do believe a portion of that 120 billion baht went to Sukhothai, and they had 9 months to do remedial work. If these <deleted>##ers weren't so busy figuring the best way to steal the maximum of the allotted flood prevention money, this damaged flood wall would have been identified and repaired.

[dcutman]

How about the flood prevention plan?

You really cant make these stories up this badly can you?

You didn't seriously expect the flood prevention plan to be fully implemented in one year did you? Get real......this is a massive civil engineering project that will take years of effort and investment to implement.

What they will then find is that as they strengthen in some crucial areas the water will find the structural weakness elsewhere, so this will be a work in progress forever and a day.

However that being said, Thai politicians need to learn to make mature comments and promises, and stop making stupid unachievable Big Fat Claims that they have no chance whatsoever of achieving.

That would be a start, then again that would annoy the life out of some TV members who's reason for existence is to pick holes in all things Thai. Oh well.

As repairing, extending and raising of flood walls, dredging and clearing of storm drainage goes, I do believe it was supposed to done this year. Thats what 120 billion baht was dispersed for.

[BillyBobThai]

However that being said, Thai politicians need to learn to make mature comments and promises, and stop making stupid unachievable Big Fat Claims that they have no chance whatsoever of achieving.

You ask that the politicians make mature comments. How can they when this is all they are.

Edited September 15, 2012 by BillyBobThai

[Nickymaster]

Small things please small minds.

[animatic]

Of course she is, her feet will always stay dry.

[MEL1]

Small things please small minds.

I wouldn't say a 50% cut of all 35% of back handed incentives for each and every business agreement made in Thailand with the government is a small thing.

She does have a small mind but her area of expertise, although small, is very well centred. I think it's a Sino thing, or it runs in the family, and Mr T could be her father, not her brother. It's almost like diarrhoea, it runs through your jeans!

Or in this case, the yellow river runs everywhere but where it is not likely to affect his/her percentage income ad infinitum. Open that dam, damned you, it's coming our way.

-mel.

[SOTIRIOS]

.......again.......no one to blame.........no one responsible..........

[FOODLOVER]

"Ms Yingluck said he was satisfied with this year's flood response plan, compared to last year's response".

I knew it, Thaksin in drag.

[Nickymaster]

She really has a degree from a US University?

Yes I know Bush was laughable too but here we have a clear winner on our hands. Edited September 15, 2012 by Nickymaster

[Noistar]

"Speaking her weekly TV programme "The Yingluck Government Meets the People", live from Krabi, the prime minister said she inspected the flood situation in Sukhothai and Phitsanulok earlier this week and found that the situation in Sukhothai was severely beyond the ability of the local authorities to handle."

First: She did 'promise' that there would be no floods this year. Did she forget what she said?

Second: She had various days away from the House in order to meet governors of all provinces, and to issue them with instructions. If she could not perceive the abilities of local governors then why on earth did she hold those meetings in the first place?

Third: When or if water of flooding levels, and that includes over unmoveable 40cm+ for some time, reach Ayutthaya, Pathumthani, Nontaburi etc. for a second year, will she suddenly then say that those governors were not capable?

Her head is still too much in the fog of Chiang Mai..... nothing better than 'Home Sweet Home'. - Wish she'd go there, for a long visit.

-mel.

Plenty of photo ops for her here

[dcutman]

She really has a degree from a US University?

Yes I know Bush was laughable too but here we have a clear winner on our hands.

Not quite an Ivy league school. Kentucky State or something like that. Edited September 15, 2012 by dcutman

[Noistar]

How about the flood prevention plan?

You really cant make these stories up this badly can you?

You didn't seriously expect the flood prevention plan to be fully implemented in one year did you? Get real......this is a massive civil engineering project that will take years of effort and investment to implement.

What they will then find is that as they strengthen in some crucial areas the water will find the structural weakness elsewhere, so this will be a work in progress forever and a day.

However that being said, Thai politicians need to learn to make mature comments and promises, and stop making stupid unachievable Big Fat Claims that they have no chance whatsoever of achieving.

That would be a start, then again that would annoy the life out of some TV members who's reason for existence is to pick holes in all things Thai. Oh well.

I don't think responding to official statements from the Government can be considered 'to pick holes in all things Thai'.

What it does show is that the ruling party seem to open their mouths before engaging their brain. It becomes distressing when they don't learn and keep on doing it.

They seem to be unable to recognize that in political terms they have not reached maturity.

Continually telling the country/world that everything will be fixed in a fixed time period is damaging to the reputation of the country.

Considering the practicalities first, then giving a feasible plan, would gain them so much respect. A 'we are aiming to achieve this within a year'. At the same time acknowledging it is only a first step, would show how grown up they can be.

[MikeOboe57]

"Ms Yingluck said he was satisfied with this year's flood response plan, compared to last year's response".

I knew it, Thaksin in drag.

No, she meant her brother.

[LuckyLew]

I am sure the people in the flooded areas are happy to see Yingluck

sitting beside a swimming pool in lovely resort town of Krabi while the

clean up after the floods

Once again clueless leadership at the top that does not give two shites

about the people

[Dap]

Great PR shot of the "concerned", "peoples" K. Yingluck

[Dap]

To be fair there may have to be a lot more remedial work done on the drainage system, it's a work in progress. It would be interesting to hear from residents in the affected areas how they felt the situation was handled compared to previous years.

It's far far too easy and predictable to criticize Yingluck on this issue, the lack of investment over decades is the primary cause of the excessively damaging floods, along with poor planning laws, deforestation etc.

All you can look for is a year on year improvement.

"To be fair", please ask the affected residents whose homes are under a meter of water how they feel now (as opposed to previous years). I don't fault the system for not waving a magic wand to "fix" all the problems, I fault the system for it's continuous "mismanagement" of massive amounts of taxpayers money for naught. 120 Billion??? and all Sukothai needed was for someone to inspect the already existing (since 2001) floodwall. THAT (easily remedied) weak link proved disastrous for a whole lotta' folk.

Edited September 15, 2012 by Dap

[OzMick]

If I understand the OP, she was saying that there wouldn't be a flood if it didn't rain so much. Seems she has a firm grasp of the subject.

Edited September 15, 2012 by OzMick

[theblether]

To be fair there may have to be a lot more remedial work done on the drainage system, it's a work in progress. It would be interesting to hear from residents in the affected areas how they felt the situation was handled compared to previous years.

It's far far too easy and predictable to criticize Yingluck on this issue, the lack of investment over decades is the primary cause of the excessively damaging floods, along with poor planning laws, deforestation etc.

All you can look for is a year on year improvement.

Sir all due respect that is BS

The flood in Sukhothai was totally avoidable. After the floods of last year receded, every inch of flood walls should have been inspected, and repaired. I do believe a portion of that 120 billion baht went to Sukhothai, and they had 9 months to do remedial work. If these <deleted>##ers weren't so busy figuring the best way to steal the maximum of the allotted flood prevention money, this damaged flood wall would have been identified and repaired.

How do you know it was totally avoidable? I'm a qualified engineer and I've learned that you can inspect things to your hearts content but still not guarantee failure under stress. I also know that water is the one element that will find the weakness, and as soon as you correct one weakness water will attack the next one.

Go talk to any civil engineer anywhere in the World and tell him that you expected that the Thai flood problem should be solved in one year and he will laugh in your face. From a standing start this is a nightmare project beyond the comprehension in scale of the keyboard warriors on this forum, and it will take years of work to correct decades of under investment and poor planning decisions , deforestation etc.

Really, it's quite unbelievable some of the comments you read on this forum, some of you guys should avoid jumping on bandwagons and actually put some thought into what you are saying.

Now then, what was that your were saying about BS?

[robblok]

To be fair there may have to be a lot more remedial work done on the drainage system, it's a work in progress. It would be interesting to hear from residents in the affected areas how they felt the situation was handled compared to previous years.

It's far far too easy and predictable to criticize Yingluck on this issue, the lack of investment over decades is the primary cause of the excessively damaging floods, along with poor planning laws, deforestation etc.

All you can look for is a year on year improvement.

Sir all due respect that is BS

The flood in Sukhothai was totally avoidable. After the floods of last year receded, every inch of flood walls should have been inspected, and repaired. I do believe a portion of that 120 billion baht went to Sukhothai, and they had 9 months to do remedial work. If these <deleted>##ers weren't so busy figuring the best way to steal the maximum of the allotted flood prevention money, this damaged flood wall would have been identified and repaired.

How do you know it was totally avoidable? I'm a qualified engineer and I've learned that you can inspect things to your hearts content but still not guarantee failure under stress. I also know that water is the one element that will find the weakness, and as soon as you correct one weakness water will attack the next one.

Go talk to any civil engineer anywhere in the World and tell him that you expected that the Thai flood problem should be solved in one year and he will laugh in your face. From a standing start this is a nightmare project beyond the comprehension in scale of the keyboard warriors on this forum, and it will take years of work to correct decades of under investment and poor planning decisions , deforestation etc.

Really, it's quite unbelievable some of the comments you read on this forum, some of you guys should avoid jumping on bandwagons and actually put some thought into what you are saying.

Now then, what was that your were saying about BS?

Blether,

They said cracks were seen in the wall before so its safe to say that something should have been done. Just read the topic where it said sukothai officials caught napping.

So negligence on the part of the government. I think you also agree that much of the money allocated is stolen or jobs are given to friends and not competent engineers. That is the way of the government here. (red or democrat but in this case the reds) I hate corruption and in this case it ruins many lives.

[philw]

It's the tropics, it rains.

It's Thailand.

She floods.

Live with it.