webfact Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 BURNING ISSUE Govt seeking another quiet deputy PM AVUDH PANANANDA THE NATION Yongyuth BANGKOK: -- The government is stonewalling on the fate of Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit in an attempt to avoid infighting over the Cabinet line-up. Over the weekend, Pheu Thai Party spokesman Prompong Nopparit condemned a party clique for trying to oust Yongyuth so that a former minister could resume power by becoming his successor. Many saw his remarks as a veiled attack on former executives of the disbanded Thai Rak Thai Party who are jockeying for political appointments. Yongyuth's job security is at risk because of his involvement in the Alpine land scandal in March 2002 when he was a deputy permanent-secretary at the Interior Ministry. Last month, the National Anti-Corruption Commission notified the ministry of its ruling in June to punish Yongyuth for a serious disciplinary offence. On September 14, the ministry's civil service sub-commission convened a meeting to mete out punishment by discharging Yongyuth from the civil service with effect retroactive to before his retirement on September 30, 2002. Under the Constitution, a serious disciplinary offender is banned from joining the Cabinet and holding a House seat. But the government is allowing him to cling to his job for the sake of political expediency. The debate on Yongyuth's status will remain inconclusive until the government can come up with an amicable solution to reallocate Cabinet seats without triggering a split within the ruling party. The fate of Yongyuth has far-reaching political and legal ramifications. Yongyuth joined the Cabinet under the joint quota allocated to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her brother Thaksin. If Yongyuth is to be replaced, Yingluck and Thaksin must consider three crucial factors. First, Yongyuth is presently the designated caretaker should Yingluck be unable to perform her duties. At this juncture, no qualified candidates have emerged. Yongyuth's successor should be well accepted by the Pheu Thai ranks, as well as not too ambitious to outshine Yingluck. Second, Yingluck and Thaksin have yet to finalise a joint decision on whether to pick one or two successors to Yongyuth. Thaksin is apparently pushing for Thai Rak Thai veterans while Yingluck is reluctant to turn back the clock. Third, Yingluck and Thaksin have to tread carefully to avoid a potential clash between Pheu Thai and its Thai Rak Thai allies. For the time being, Yongyuth is an indispensable link to the power sharing within the Cabinet. The government can, however, keep him on the job as a stopgap measure and not a lasting solution. The longer Yongyuth remains in the Cabinet, the greater the risk of his legal wrangling will impact on the government. In the face of disciplinary punishment, the government argued that Yongyuth's offence and record was expunged via an act of Parliament to grant clemency to disciplinary offenders. The bill, to mark His Majesty the King's 80th birthday, was passed five years ago. Officials claim Yongyuth is entitled to be treated as if he had never been a disciplinary offender because the legislation gave him a fresh start. The government cited two rulings, one by the Council of State and another by the Civil Service Commission, as justification for Yongyuth keeping his job. But some key facts have been omitted from the government's justification: - the two agencies got advice on the impact of disciplinary clemency on the civil service records but not the constitutional implications; - the two rulings related to clemency granted to individuals already punished, but in this case Yongyuth had not been punished before claiming clemency; - only the Constitution Court can rule on Yongyuth's job status. -- The Nation 2012-09-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Here ya go.. "Under the Constitution, a serious disciplinary offender is banned from joining the Cabinet and holding a House seat. But the government is allowing him to cling to his job for the sake of political expediency." So the Govt is ignoring the constitution and by being in breach of the law, should by all rights be dissolved immediately. But then... "If Yongyuth is to be replaced, Yingluck and Thaksin must consider three crucial factors." What the hell has this to do with Thaksin? This is a simple admission what everyone knows, Thaksin is the puppet master from afar. Wake up Thailand. What a cock up of a situation. Time for another coup or in the least, impeachment of the PM and vote of no confidence by the people (not the parliament)? Another coup would most likely put the nail in Thaksins coffin. Thailand is being stifled in politics despite what the media reports. Investment is down, inability to manage either the economy, the populace, the constant corruption and political insanity of a convicted crim running the country from exile. As is often said, you can't make this stuff up! Edited September 24, 2012 by asiawatcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Mr Yongyut has to take the prize as the most boring, uninspiring and dull politician to have ever graced the chambers of the Thai Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 These politicians bought their way into their offices using the Thai people. As each vote cost a minimun of 500 baht. Now the Thai people have exactly what the Thai politicians sold to them. An inadequate, corrupt, mindless government. We expats that enjoy living here need to stop complaining because nobody in Thailand cares. You say we care. The Thai people who voted don't care what you think. They don't care what the government does. The inadequate government continues to be corrupt to the extreme and mindless to the needs of the people and the people don't care. This is my last comment here on this subject. If the Thai people don't want to know, then I will no longer try and make them understand. The Thai people have gotten exactly what they were paid for. Nobody cares, so I am booking "T" times and enjoying myself. No more Thai politics for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 "First, Yongyuth is presently the designated caretaker should Yingluck be unable to perform her duties". "At this juncture, no qualified candidates have emerged. Yongyuth's successor should be well accepted by the Pheu Thai ranks, as well as not too ambitious to outshine Yingluck". So Yongyutk is actually running the country then and has been for the past year!!! Pheu Thai doesn't have any quality candidates and even if they dragged in somebody off the streets they would outshine Yingluck!!! What a VERY sorry state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) I suggest the fellow in the middle would be best choice for the "quiet" requirement to replace Yongyuth. His two pals are already well represented since they can neither see no evil nor hear no evil. Edited September 25, 2012 by ratcatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 3 suitable candidates here if they need them, although a fourth one holding out his hand would be more suitable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I suggest the fellow in the middle would be best choice for the "quiet" requirement to replace Yongyuth. His two pals are already well represented since they can neither see no evil nor hear no evil. Bugger you beat me to it!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Here ya go.. "Under the Constitution, a serious disciplinary offender is banned from joining the Cabinet and holding a House seat. But the government is allowing him to cling to his job for the sake of political expediency." So the Govt is ignoring the constitution and by being in breach of the law, should by all rights be dissolved immediately. But then... "If Yongyuth is to be replaced, Yingluck and Thaksin must consider three crucial factors." What the hell has this to do with Thaksin? This is a simple admission what everyone knows, Thaksin is the puppet master from afar. Wake up Thailand. What a cock up of a situation. Time for another coup or in the least, impeachment of the PM and vote of no confidence by the people (not the parliament)? Another coup would most likely put the nail in Thaksins coffin. Thailand is being stifled in politics despite what the media reports. Investment is down, inability to manage either the economy, the populace, the constant corruption and political insanity of a convicted crim running the country from exile. As is often said, you can't make this stuff up! It's all very true what you say Asiawatcher. But, "you not see this government democratic, elected by the people, have majority". So they can do what they want, ignore the constitution and any laws they don't like; make it up as they go along; make ridiculous statements over and over again and line their pockets at the same time. History has some interesting similies. What's sad is that everyone knows but nothing happens to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 No mention of another quiet PM though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbeam1 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Thai Govt Seeking Another Quiet Deputy Prime Minister What a great headline. jb1 Edited September 25, 2012 by jimbeam1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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