I Advise My Sister, P M Yingluck, Because She's New, Thaksin Tells Forbes

[yoshiwara]

I am doing you the courtesy of assuming you are neither thick nor irretrievably prejudiced.Read the article more carefully again.What do you think Voranai is saying, why is he saying it and what are his main points? Jot them done on a postcard if you feel confused.

Listen, i am telling you what i gleaned from his article.... Yingluck has been underestimated... not for her skills... would be difficult to underestimate them... but for the power she possesses simply by not really doing anything, not really saying anything.. makes her a hard target to attack, particularly with that lovely smile of hers.

So OK, great, she can potentially provide the key for Thaksin to ferret his way back in. She can potentially make trouble for all those fascists we hate so much.. but at the same time, greasing wheels for a new bunch of undesirables... ok... at which point should i be dazzled?

Frankly what you managed to glean or not glean is neither here nor there.The interesting aspect is why one of the country's most perceptive political commentators regards Yingluck as a phenomenon.

Loose translation: most perceptive = exactly what I think.

Edited November 6, 2012 by yoshiwara

[gemini81]

What a good family man benevolently helping out his sister with her complicated political decisions, we all have to be learning and be trained at sometime in our life, and for anyone learning all things new Thailand is the place to come to for advice and life preparation.

Just a year back he claimed all over the press he doesn't advise his brainless sister. You know you're pathological when you forget your own lies! This guy will get his. I hope I get Thais get to piss on his remains one day

Edited November 6, 2012 by gemini81

[rubl]

"A "flip-flop" (used mostly in the United States), U-turn (used in the United Kingdom and Ireland), or backflip (used in Australia and New Zealand) is a sudden real or apparent change of policy or opinion by a public official, sometimes while trying to claim that both positions are consistent with each other. Often it will occur during the period prior to or following an election in order to maximize the candidate's popularity."

http://en.wikipedia....-flop_(politics)

So, Thaksin advising his sister is consistent with being through with politics, but Abhisit's 'not planned' is a flip-flop. I have to admit that understanding doesn't come easy

if you actually read my posts you'll see i'm not defending thaksin at all.

True, just distracting in a topic on Thaksin and making interesting suggestions as to what constitutes a flip-flop, change of mind. Of course that is not the same as defending Thaksin.

Remember Thaksin telling the BBC that he was through with politics, that enough was enough, he just wanted to retire?

Yet another lie by the fugitive from afar!

obviously he changed his mind like mark did.

[nurofiend]

True, just distracting in a topic on Thaksin and making interesting suggestions as to what constitutes a flip-flop, change of mind. Of course that is not the same as defending Thaksin.

Remember Thaksin telling the BBC that he was through with politics, that enough was enough, he just wanted to retire?

Yet another lie by the fugitive from afar!

obviously he changed his mind like mark did.

it was tongue in cheek rubl,

it was to point out a similarity that i find in the past of abhisit, not defend thaksin on it.

in another thread it is very clear that i don't defend thaksin on this, look for it if you want.

it was an off the cuff response i made when i read the post, just some banter, i didn't think deeply to myself "oh a thread about thaksin, i better derail this quicktime because we don't see a lot of these and thaksins name isn't mentioned often so i'll keep it that way" but of course 50 different people dive on it and carry it on for many pages.

hint: "50 different people" was said tongue in cheek too.

Edited November 6, 2012 by nurofiend

[rubl]

True, just distracting in a topic on Thaksin and making interesting suggestions as to what constitutes a flip-flop, change of mind. Of course that is not the same as defending Thaksin.

Remember Thaksin telling the BBC that he was through with politics, that enough was enough, he just wanted to retire?

Yet another lie by the fugitive from afar!

obviously he changed his mind like mark did.

it was tongue in cheek rubl,

it was to point out a similarity that i find in the past of abhisit, not defend thaksin on it.

in another thread it is very clear that i don't defend thaksin on this, look for it if you want.

it was an off the cuff response i made when i read the post, just some banter, i didn't think deeply to myself "oh a thread about thaksin, i better derail this quicktime because we don't see a lot of these and thaksins name isn't mentioned often so i'll keep it that way" but of course 50 different people dive on it and carry it on for many pages.

hint: "50 different people" was said tongue in cheek too.

Yes, love. No, love. Whatever, love

[nurofiend]

Yes, love. No, love. Whatever, love

Edited November 6, 2012 by nurofiend

[jayboy]

I am doing you the courtesy of assuming you are neither thick nor irretrievably prejudiced.Read the article more carefully again.What do you think Voranai is saying, why is he saying it and what are his main points? Jot them done on a postcard if you feel confused.

Listen, i am telling you what i gleaned from his article.... Yingluck has been underestimated... not for her skills... would be difficult to underestimate them... but for the power she possesses simply by not really doing anything, not really saying anything.. makes her a hard target to attack, particularly with that lovely smile of hers.

So OK, great, she can potentially provide the key for Thaksin to ferret his way back in. She can potentially make trouble for all those fascists we hate so much.. but at the same time, greasing wheels for a new bunch of undesirables... ok... at which point should i be dazzled?

Frankly what you managed to glean or not glean is neither here nor there.The interesting aspect is why one of the country's most perceptive political commentators regards Yingluck as a phenomenon.

Loose translation: most perceptive = exactly what I think.

Er not really.I disagree with Voranai almost the time but I recognize his perception and clarity of intellect.As a matter of fact he was a guest speaker at the recent Oxford and Cambridge Dinner. (I appreciate this is rather out of your social circle).Some of those living in an obsessive online world world of bile and hatred seem not to understand it's possible to disagree with someone while at the same time recognising his excellent qualities.

Edited November 8, 2012 by jayboy

[rubl]

Frankly what you managed to glean or not glean is neither here nor there.The interesting aspect is why one of the country's most perceptive political commentators regards Yingluck as a phenomenon.

Loose translation: most perceptive = exactly what I think.

Er not really.I disagree with Voranai almost the time but I recognize his perception and clarity of intellect.As a matter of fact he was a guest speaker at the recent Oxford and Cambridge Dinner. (I appreciate this is rather out of your social circle).Some of those living in an obsessive online world world of bile and hatred seem not to understand it's possible to disagree with someone while at the same time recognising his excellent qualities.

Being called a phenomena can have positive and/or negative implications.

BTW may I be so bold as to point out a seemingly contradiction in your post? You presume 'out of social circle' and at the same time happily continue with 'Some of those living in an obsessive online world world of bile and hatred seem not to understand ...' Does this imply that you consider withdrawing from active participation in this forum?

Now before (if) you answer, please remember where 'physical violence may be a sign of verbal incompetence', just using the obvious labels to describe opponents isn't really much better. IMHO of course

PS Hull was not represented at the dinner?

[yoshiwara]

Er not really.I disagree with Voranai almost the time but I recognize his perception and clarity of intellect.As a matter of fact he was a guest speaker at the recent Oxford and Cambridge Dinner. (I appreciate this is rather out of your social circle).Some of those living in an obsessive online world world of bile and hatred seem not to understand it's possible to disagree with someone while at the same time recognising his excellent qualities.

One expects those who cover themselves in Red cologne to whiff a bit wherever they eat.

'Yingluck is a phenomenon' an example of 'perception and clarity of intellect.' ??? Hilarious.

'Social circles'? Oh the confusions of a semi-detached class war tourist.

Edited November 8, 2012 by yoshiwara

[jayboy]

Frankly what you managed to glean or not glean is neither here nor there.The interesting aspect is why one of the country's most perceptive political commentators regards Yingluck as a phenomenon.

Loose translation: most perceptive = exactly what I think.

Er not really.I disagree with Voranai almost the time but I recognize his perception and clarity of intellect.As a matter of fact he was a guest speaker at the recent Oxford and Cambridge Dinner. (I appreciate this is rather out of your social circle).Some of those living in an obsessive online world world of bile and hatred seem not to understand it's possible to disagree with someone while at the same time recognising his excellent qualities.

Being called a phenomena can have positive and/or negative implications.

BTW may I be so bold as to point out a seemingly contradiction in your post? You presume 'out of social circle' and at the same time happily continue with 'Some of those living in an obsessive online world world of bile and hatred seem not to understand ...' Does this imply that you consider withdrawing from active participation in this forum?

Now before (if) you answer, please remember where 'physical violence may be a sign of verbal incompetence', just using the obvious labels to describe opponents isn't really much better. IMHO of course

I'm afraid I dont understand the point you are making.I'm not aware of using any labels to describe any member.

As to Yingluck I'm quite comfortable with describing her as a phenonomen,and certainly yes that can have both positive and negative aspects.

[jayboy]

Er not really.I disagree with Voranai almost the time but I recognize his perception and clarity of intellect.As a matter of fact he was a guest speaker at the recent Oxford and Cambridge Dinner. (I appreciate this is rather out of your social circle).Some of those living in an obsessive online world world of bile and hatred seem not to understand it's possible to disagree with someone while at the same time recognising his excellent qualities.

One expects those who cover themselves in Red cologne to whiff a bit wherever they eat.

'Yingluck is a phenomenon' an example of 'perception and clarity of intellect.' ??? Hilarious.

'Social circles'? Oh the confusions of a semi-detached class war tourist.

The angry brigade are so ideologically revved up they can't or won't recognise the truth (the PM is a phenonomen) because in its bizarro even kinky world of Taksin fetishism, the truth doesn't doesn't compute.

[waza]

Jayboy, "(the PM is a phenonomen) because in its bizarro even kinky world of Taksin fetishism"

Urban Dictionary: phenonomen fart

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=phenonomen%20fartCached

You +1'd this publicly. UndoWhen a woman's pants are so tight the flatulence escapes forward instead of backward.

Although on the surface you may be acurate to be honest I think you meant phenomena but phenomenal is exactly what the PM isnt.

Edited November 9, 2012 by waza