Kimpanzee Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm looking to see if there is interest in building wooden boats in Chiang Mai. I plan on building a SCAMP beginning this March. I'm going to build a space in the car port to work and store the boat out of the rain and be able to keep my tools in order. I plan on having a drill, jigsaw, clamps, epoxy, etc. on site. I'm wondering if anybody would be into doing these sorts of projects? I plan on sailing this boat at dam reservoirs close to Chiang Mai and would love to take it down south and go to some islands. I can envision a group that would work on boats together and sail together. I'm building this boat from plans and have never done it before, however I have the fire in my belly and wife is into it. Having sailed in the US I know that this place is ripe for boating, but I see nobody doing it. I would love to bring some boating to the this area and want to expose my kids and friends to the world of sailing small boats. I'm into John Welsford designs and anything by Iain Outhread. Let me know what you think. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Moved to Chiang Mai Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbrun Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I would be interested to meet and chat about your idea. Which area are you living in..? I am on the north side, near Mee Chok plaza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimShortz Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Otteson! What's this about building a Scamp. Make your mind up man! ;-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpanzee Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 It looks like a few people are interested in getting together and chatting about plans and projects. How about meeting in two weeks time. Sometime after the 16th of November. I'm swamped. We have people both north and south of Chiang Mai and some in the middle. Would people like to meet at my house, (on the southern edge by the Hang Dong Big C) or at a local watering hole? Let me know and let's get the ball rolling. Kip Otteson 0814724968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBobThai Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I also am interested and live in the Hang Dong area. Will call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoncnx Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Me also but i would be also be interested kn starting a sailing club in cm Sent from my GT-I9100T using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpanzee Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 I think that we should meet at Beercamp in Chiang Mai on Weds. the 21st of November at 6pm. We can bring plans, pics, whatever, and talk about some future dates and designs. This is the place. Nimmanhaemin Soi 5 at a place called Click@Nimman. It was formerly called Outdoors/LoveMore and here's the map: http://goo.gl/maps/BP32h Hope to see you all there. Kip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimShortz Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I think that we should meet at Beercamp in Chiang Mai on Weds. the 21st of November at 6pm. We can bring plans, pics, whatever, and talk about some future dates and designs. This is the place. Nimmanhaemin Soi 5 at a place called Click@Nimman. It was formerly called Outdoors/LoveMore and here's the map: http://goo.gl/maps/BP32h Hope to see you all there. Kip I think I confused you kip; ignore the Beercamp bit - that is the name of a tech group that meets each week in the area! The place is called click@Nimman and is on Nimmahaemin Soi 5, at the intersection halfway up the soi, as shown on your map link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjones Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I am also interested in small sailing boats, but do you think there is enough wind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimShortz Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 There is certainly enough wind on this forum... and more seriously, there is enough wind on the reservoirs, providing you have the right boat design. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 The idea crossed my mind not long ago. Nice to see I'm not the only one. I'd like to join the meeting even if I'm rather a newbie in sailing but this would be the opportunity to know more on the topic and maybe contribute some way. Will join on the 21st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpanzee Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'll bring some plans, books on Wednesday. I'm happy to share all that I have, which isn't much. Looking forward to seeing you guys on the 21st. Kip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpanzee Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 See you guys tonight at 6 at the beer joint. I'll bring stuff to look at. If you have plans, bring them along. Kip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) I lived in Combes Boatyard in Chichester Harbour in an old Maurice Griffiths cutter 31ft, iroko on oak, which I restored, Well remember being tucked in below in the mahogany glow cosy and warm with snow covering everything. In the spring or summer with the hatch open would sometimes wake up with a bird in the cabin. Will try to pop along :-) Cheeryble Edited November 21, 2012 by cheeryble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimShortz Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Meeting's on - i'll be there with the master boat builder from 6pm. Hope to see you all there... Beer ahoy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpanzee Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Great meeting last night. Thanks Kevinm, Xavier, and John for showing up and discussing the plans. We are now going to be collecting materials and looking for a start date on construction in April. The design we are going to be pursuing is this one. http://smallcraftadvisor.com/component/content/article/361 Kip Otteson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Nice classic-looking boat. I'm not sure it's the best design for sailing in the light and variable airs we have in this area though - appears somewhat heavy for its LOA and that lug rig will be a bit deformed on the tack where the sail is upwind of the mast. We lived aboard a Wharram Tiki 46 gaff schooner for a couple of years and there is nothing quite like peaking up a gaff. Now have the plans for a Spindrift 10N which can be rowed or motored as well - http://www.bandbyachtdesigns.com/spin.htm although we plan to use foam/glass sandwich instead of plywood to reduce weight. Hope to begin next rainy season as well. Good luck on what appears to be a very ambitious project; unfortunately we live a bit too far away to attend your meetings but look forward to following your progress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Great meeting last night. Thanks Kevinm, Xavier, and John for showing up and discussing the plans. We are now going to be collecting materials and looking for a start date on construction in April. The design we are going to be pursuing is this one. http://smallcraftadv...ent/article/361 Kip Otteson It was great to meet you guys y'day. Started having a look at the first book already I was just about to ask you for some link and here it comes before asking.. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Nice to have pics, so here is the Scamp Whoops too small let's try again....dam_n won't let me now, ah well Yes, very nice to meet you all.... Was thinking about the sails......and the UV acrylic curtain material I mentioned. It is designed to be tight enough to stop the light. It's not heavy, and as I said about a 8 or 9 sqm blind cost me 4900 including the rail and ties and fitting from my regular very reliable lady. I'm guessing you don't need much more than this,so as this is not designed for storm conditions perhaps you might make a big saving in money (did you mention $500 Kip?) and ordering hassle by getting made locally. Then you'll have introduced sailmaking to CM! Cheeryble Edited November 22, 2012 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 That's better, and her's a lovely tropical pic I have saved: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradinAsia Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Hello, I'm new to this forum but have many years in Asia including several years teaching at university in Bangkok. I'm still in the Philippines so couldn't make the meeting last night, but plan to be in Chiang Mai first week of March. Would like to join the project if it's not too late. Like Kip, I have no boat-buiilding experience, only have the burning urge. We plan to make Chiang Mai our retirement home. Hope to see you all then. Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Better build two then you can have Chiangmai Yacht Racing Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 This company produce plywood. I don't know about quality but I just saw they put some pics of small boat construction on their website and also pics of use in construction (just navigate within the "product" pages). Probably tomorrow, our company will order a few panels from them for evaluation in a project. Let me know if it seems to you this could be of any interest in our building discussion here since we had been discussing the difficulty of sourcing decent quality in TH. In this case we could order some panel extra for check and avoid extra transportation fees (they are around BKK it seems). http://www.pwood.co.th/products_model.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Hi I wasn't able to read the specs of that wood but it looks very dense - if so the boat will be even heavier than designed and light air performance will really suffer. BTW that cockpit layout looks ideally suited for sculling should you find yourself becalmed in the middle of the lake at sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 ...sorry to barge in like this here,but I was doing a boat project in CM couple of years ago and I was using a locally available plywood which is waterproof,but it is kind of heavy...you can recognize it by green fish stamp on it.......well,this is the only one that I could locate without importing the real stuff...Regards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Follow up of the supplier mentioned yesterday (P Wood). We call them and they say they stopped manufacturing plywood suitable for boat building by lack of buyers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 AFAIK the only waterproof ply made in LOS is called 'tha chang', a bit reddish in color and has a red elephant symbol stamped in the corner. It is very waterproof but not many laminations for its thickness and it's definitely heavier and weaker than the equivalent marine ply. Takes epoxy well and lots of boats have been built with it in LOS however including my old Tiki 46... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Sorry to but in on this but I was looking for marine ply a while back and it seems that one of the only available sources is a boatyard in Phuket. On a Thai site I visited, where they built a fishing boat out of marine ply, they imported the ply from Myanmar. I was going to build a stitch and glue sit-on-top kayak but shelved the project because of the difficulty in sourcing the appropriate plywood. Waterproof ply just did not fit the bill as I needed to keep the weight down while maintaining the strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Follow up of the supplier mentioned yesterday (P Wood). We call them and they say they stopped manufacturing plywood suitable for boat building by lack of buyers.. Instead of specialty ply, it might be quite feasible to use top quality exterior ply for your project, especially if the plans call for glassing over the wood. Since your boat won't be living in the water just saturating the wood (and every hole you ever drill into it) with epoxy should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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