Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 A trick Question? that Singapore B772 Is it one of the B777-200ER or on of the fleet that left the factory as an ER but was derated to a -200 and operated as a -200 (for the short Asian routes). PS, I don't know the answer to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Make and model... Bonus points for the interesting fact about this bird... Airbus C319 CJ (Corporate Jet). Manufacturer is correct, but the rest is a bit short of the mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) OK, the A310 then. Do they still have that. I thought they got rid of it. These are used for Royalty as well I was told, (source was a bit dodgy though) Come to think of it, its lines are to pleasant to the eye to be a Ugly 319. Edited May 16, 2013 by Chao Lao Beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Make and model... Bonus points for the interesting fact about this bird... Airbus C319 (115?) CJ (Corporate Jet). For the bonus - was it the one caught up in the floods at Don Muang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Make and model... Bonus points for the interesting fact about this bird... Airbus C319 CJ (Corporate Jet). Manufacturer is correct, but the rest is a bit short of the mark... Sure does match this though - http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=382296 //edit - sorry, nose is completely wrong so the A310. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 A trick Question? that Singapore B772 Is it one of the B777-200ER or on of the fleet that left the factory as an ER but was derated to a -200 and operated as a -200 (for the short Asian routes). PS, I don't know the answer to this? Mate, I'm not sure 100% what the question is. Here is some more reference, if that helps ... Let me know if I need to search some more. Cheers ... Also ... please ... contribute your photos and images ... I have only a few left in my draw! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Make and model... Bonus points for the interesting fact about this bird... Airbus C319 CJ (Corporate Jet). Manufacturer is correct, but the rest is a bit short of the mark... Sure does match this though - http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=382296 //edit - sorry, nose is completely wrong so the A310. I am 899% sure I got it wrong just jumping to the 319. I have never seen the 310, but this pic is a A310. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 A trick Question? that Singapore B772 Is it one of the B777-200ER or on of the fleet that left the factory as an ER but was derated to a -200 and operated as a -200 (for the short Asian routes). PS, I don't know the answer to this? Mate, I'm not sure 100% what the question is. Here is some more reference, if that helps ... Let me know if I need to search some more. Cheers ... Also ... please ... contribute your photos and images ... I have only a few left in my draw! . It doesn't matter, prob best to kill it here but to to clear, SQ has 13 B777-200ER and it got another 18 B777-200ER that were derated and operated to a B777-200. These are used on the shorter routes and carry 50 more pax. The ultra long haul ones are limited by the huge amount of fuel they need, so the by product is less seats and more leg room !!! Up to about 9 hours they would use the -200, over that the -200ER with less pax. If they need to, they could always convert them back to a -200ER (apparently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Sure does match this though - http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=382296 //edit - sorry, nose is completely wrong so the A310. I am 899% sure I got it wrong just jumping to the 319. I have never seen the 310, but this pic is a A310. And I conceded defeat in my edit above. Been too distracted and for some reason focused on the last half of the plane and the stabilizer and wing tips were identical. Some of the most telling differences can be found on the nose, and the difference there between the two with the A319 a bit more 'pointy' then in your photo of the A310. But they sure are close. //edit - an error in my original and should been A319 not C319 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 CLB is correct that it is an Airbus A310-324... That's right boys and girls, it is a P&W donked bird Belonging to the RTAF, the bonus point was for the registration of the aircraft - it has 2 - one civilian and one military. HS-TYQ (civilian) and 60202 (military), with the military rego being shared with HS-TYR (A319CJ) as shown in Tywais earlier guess. Why that is, I have no idea. She's still in service as far as I can tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 There is a image of that A310 dated 4 March 2012 here. I thought it was replaced well before that, so there you go. It is also listed in the RTAF fleet I now see, so I presume you are right and it is still very much in service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 No interest in my Avro. ? I really don't know much about that, except seeing some good documentaries. Avro Lancaster (wiki). Off subject, when I read Avro, My first thoughts was the Avro Arrow (wiki) with more pics here. This is a modern day amazing success story that every Canadian should be proud of and every American should still be angry about. The only consolation is that the team that designed this, were snapped up by Boeing and designed the B737 as a kind of group project. So there you go, the 37 was mainly designed and developed by Canadians employed by Boeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Just a note in Davids post #1170, that B777 Singapore cockpit, his foot up reminded me of the comfort of a Boeing. Be it a tiny comfort !!! Airbus has heaps of room to put your feet up, but you are not allowed to, rules, rules and more bloody rules. Boeing knows that pilots will and make it strong so you can and makes little guards Here is a Dash (That was built by Boeing for 2 years) & here is an old dash, the grey paint scuff is from the co-pilots right foot. Many a machine actually have sticker of a foot indicating where the engineers want you to rest your foot on the panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 They did these low level runs at night didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 A trick Question? that Singapore B772 Is it one of the B777-200ER or on of the fleet that left the factory as an ER but was derated to a -200 and operated as a -200 (for the short Asian routes). PS, I don't know the answer to this? Mate, I'm not sure 100% what the question is. Here is some more reference, if that helps ... Let me know if I need to search some more. Cheers ... Also ... please ... contribute your photos and images ... I have only a few left in my draw! . It doesn't matter, prob best to kill it here but to to clear, SQ has 13 B777-200ER and it got another 18 B777-200ER that were derated and operated to a B777-200. These are used on the shorter routes and carry 50 more pax. The ultra long haul ones are limited by the huge amount of fuel they need, so the by product is less seats and more leg room !!! Up to about 9 hours they would use the -200, over that the -200ER with less pax. If they need to, they could always convert them back to a -200ER (apparently). There's confusion on which actual aircraft we were spotting, but either way you were probably right. David has it as 9V-SGH, and has linked to this page for reference. Only thing is, 9V-SGH doesn't exist, and the aircraft the link goes to has been incorrectly identified as 9V-SGH. The rego on the aircraft in that link is actually 9V-SQH - which was originally delivered as a 777-212ER, but was flying as a 777-200 when it was last on the register. It is now flying with Scoot as 9V-OTE The original cockpit photo posted for the spotting was 9V-SRF - which the link provided shows as a 777-212ER, but which Singapore Airlines operates as a 777-200. Anyone else confused yet?? I certainly am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Gezz, good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Christ SVB I need a lie down after deciphering all that! You been chatting with old mate ginjag again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 It doesn't matter, prob best to kill it here but to to clear, SQ has 13 B777-200ER and it got another 18 B777-200ER that were derated and operated to a B777-200. . These are used on the shorter routes and carry 50 more pax. The ultra long haul ones are limited by the huge amount of fuel they need, so the by product is less seats and more leg room !!! Up to about 9 hours they would use the -200, over that the -200ER with less pax. If they need to, they could always convert them back to a -200ER (apparently). There's confusion on which actual aircraft we were spotting, but either way you were probably right. David has it as 9V-SGH, and has linked to this page for reference. Only thing is, 9V-SGH doesn't exist, and the aircraft the link goes to has been incorrectly identified as 9V-SGH. The rego on the aircraft in that link is actually 9V-SQH - which was originally delivered as a 777-212ER, but was flying as a 777-200 when it was last on the register. It is now flying with Scoot as 9V-OTE The original cockpit photo posted for the spotting was 9V-SRF - which the link provided shows as a 777-212ER, but which Singapore Airlines operates as a 777-200. Anyone else confused yet?? I certainly am. Firstly ... I have run out of 'likes' (I have to speak to a Mod about that ... ) and will return later today and say thank-you. Now I fully understand what SVB is on about and CLB alluded to ... I made a small but important mistake. For me ... you guys are just so good that I have to think of ways to make it more interesting and search from complementary images sometimes to kick the spotting off. So, for this, I searched out a cockpit photo of a 777-212ER ... which I believed the plane to be. Then I had to save that photo to the computer, remove the author and crop it a bit so that it couldn't be 'Google photo searched' and kick # 051 off with it. I'll triple check the info before posting again. So, thanks for the conversation and accept my apologies ... I pour my 2nd now and go work up # 052. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 # 052These birds all look a like in this variant, but I'm going to go with an MD-83... Close ... seriously ... . Close indeed, I'll claim it was a typo and meant to put MD-82 Belonging to Orient Thai as well So ... hopefully some better luck with this one! I have it as an Orient Thai Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-82 REGO HS-MDK Well Done Mr Smith ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 No interest in my Avro. ? Dambusters raid recreated to mark 70th anniversary - videohttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2013/may/16/dambusters-70th-anniversary-johnny-johnson-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Just a big bunch of aerosexuals aren't we I'm not much good on the vintage aircraft, as most of it was before my time. And I'm shithouse on the small personal civilian stuff also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 No apologies necessary David - I enjoyed the SQ detection work last night (yes I was at a very loose end)I'm blaming Chao Lao Beach for posing the 777-200 vs 777-200ER questions, I love a good challenge Keep 'em coming, although I don't think I'll be going to such lengths next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 This was taken in Thailand this week. What are the 4 aircraft. Who operates them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) This was taken in Thailand this week. What are the 4 aircraft. Who operates them? plane13-tv.jpg In the spirit of Ban Fai! These birds belong to the Bureau of Rainmaking and Agriculture Aviation... Cessna 208 Caravans, no? Edited May 17, 2013 by GrantSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) The back left machine I believe is a Cessna 337 Super Skymaster. I have never seen this fly ever, easy to ID it from the ground, as it has a pink vertical fins. Other C337 I see regularly, these are operated by the Thai Navy. Are these others C208A or C208B Grand Caravans? I understand that the Rain makers in Thailand do use them and they are in the same color scheme as these. I am really not sure if these are operated by them though. These are used every week, to fly "officials" down to the beach on Fridays and they depart on late Sunday afternoon. I presumed they are operated by the Navy as well as they seemed to be all Navy guys, there has never been any mention of rain making. I think that this is an excuse to drop by again maybe and find out more, Edited May 17, 2013 by Chao Lao Beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 CLB, According to "my research", they're 208Bs... Found this Facebook page as well which gives a bit more insight... https://www.facebook.com/pages/Department-of-Royal-Rainmaking-and-Agricultural-Aviations-flyers/392766360819122 As for the Skymaster, I didn't even see it until I saw your comment about it and I was like "there's only 3 birds in this photo" hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) I call they are C208A not the lengthened, now common Grand Caravan C208B. Apart from looking shorter, these have 5 passenger windows (don't count the pilots window) where the C208B has 7. You can be sure that if you are looking at a C208 on floats / (anphibs) before this year it is a A model as well. It was only Jan this year that the C208B EX was certified which is allowed to be a floaty. All indications are that it is even a bigger water pig than the A model, A grand water hog eh. 1 aftermarket AD is to replace the PT6 with a Garret, like <deleted> is that about? Another was, and I am not sure if it was ever certified, but I know it flew, was a multi engine PT6 set up, driving 1 gearbox prop. (Some people have to much money eh!) Edit: Here it is, the multi. (wiki) Image below is not a guess. Info below. Source and more info here. & here Edited May 17, 2013 by Chao Lao Beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny1967 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 No interest in my Avro. ? I really don't know much about that, except seeing some good documentaries. Avro Lancaster (wiki). Off subject, when I read Avro, My first thoughts was the Avro Arrow (wiki) with more pics here. This is a modern day amazing success story that every Canadian should be proud of and every American should still be angry about. The only consolation is that the team that designed this, were snapped up by Boeing and designed the B737 as a kind of group project. So there you go, the 37 was mainly designed and developed by Canadians employed by Boeing. Another view. dam.jpg Super stuff. I was on one of these a few years back.I think there's only 3 left flying in the world today.It was pretty cramped inside.Had to climb over several bulkheads to net from the back to the front.Awesome machine though.I'll see if I still have the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 CLB You sir, appear to be correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Did he the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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