Veera, Ratree may be returned in exchange for 2 Cambodians

The Nation

Democrats urge govt to pull out of World Heritage panel over P Vihear

BANGKOK: -- The Justice Ministry will seek to have the two nationalists - Veera Somkwamkid and Ratree Pipattana-Paiboon - detained in Cambodia quickly transferred to Thailand while Cambodia wants two of its prisoners sent back in exchange.

Korbkiat Kasiwiwat, deputy director-general of the Corrections Department, said that while those detained for espionage are normally not included, swap negotiations are ongoing through the diplomatic channel and with representatives from the Justice Ministry, police, the Office of the Attorney-General and the Criminal Court, chaired by Justice permanent secretary Kittiphong Kittayarak.

As Ratree had served one-third of her sentence in Cambodia and been given a royal pardon, she was now eligible to return to Thailand, said Korbkiat, while Veera's sentence had been reduced by six months. However, he had not yet served the one-third period of his eight-year sentence, equivalent to two years and 10 months.

Charnchao Chaiyanukij, deputy permanent secretary of Justice, confirmed that Cambodia had requested that two Cambodian prisoners be exchanged for the two Thais.

In a related development, the Democrat Party spokesperson urged the Thai government to pull out from the World Heritage Site Committee to protect Thai sovereignty over the disputed Preah Vihear Temple along the Thai-Cambodian border.

Chavanond Intarakomalyasut, the party's spokesperson, accused the Yingluck Shinawatra administration of not wanting to protect the Kingdom's national sovereignty.

"The stance of the government is not strong in fighting against Cambodia. We want the government to immediately pull out."

Suan Dusit Poll, meanwhile, revealed that a majority of respondents want the government to do its best to protect the dignity and rights of Thailand over the Preah Vihear Temple while they also want the opposition to avoid politicising the issue.

Between January 9 to 12, 1,204 respondents from across the country were asked questions. About 54 per cent said they have some understanding regarding the temple dispute. Only 9 per cent said they did not know anything.

More than 66 per cent said the government should do its best while 14 per cent said the government should consider bilateral relations and the impact of people along the border area.

Asked what the citizens should do, 45 per cent said people should follow the news carefully and not panic.

In another related development, Pheu Thai Party spokesperson Prompong Nopparit denied that the party and the government had sought the release of both Veera and Ratree in exchange for some undue benefits for Cambodia.

-- The Nation 2013-01-14

Further evidence of the bogus nature of their espionage convictions.

Way to much time and energy has been spent on these two dead beats

And the Dems back on the warpath!

Just watch when they are back in thailand they will comdemn the thai and cambodia goverments..with all sorts of accusations.....

In another related development, Pheu Thai Party spokesperson Prompong Nopparit denied that the party and the government had sought the release of both Veera and Ratree in exchange for some undue benefits for Cambodia.

Below are the comments made by that delightful ally of the P.T.P. puppet master.Many similarities in the dogmas twixt the the puppet master of the P.T.P and his buddy Hun Sen.

."I not only weaken the opposition, I'm going to make them dead ... and if anyone is strong enough to try to hold a demonstration, I will beat all those dogs and put them in a cage."

During Hun Sen's time in power, many opposition figures have indeed ended up dead. Death squads have targeted opposition figures in election-related violence, while labor leaders and journalists have been assassinated.

One can only presume that the return of the Cambodian prisoners and the subsequent 'undue benefits'' that may accrue would of course be a two way street and would include a tutorial in the ethics of Cambodian civil rights practises for the current maladministration puppet master who needs to refine his act a little further in his pursuit of demonacracy democracy !!

Of course there was no espionage.

These 2 firebrands didnt want anything quiet or secretive. They want to yell from the roof tops that the Thai should fight for lands the Khmer 'stole' from them , irrespective of any treaties that had previously been signed.

These are nationalist trouble makers that should be left to rot.

I am sick of newspapers saying Thais are eagerly awaiting the repatriation of these two jerks. Most Thais I have talked to thing think they deserve to rot there for their entire sentences. All the others signed the piece of paper and went home after two weeks.

Democrats urged to pull out of Vihear panel? Of course beware of any country, party or organization with the name "Democrat" in their name, they seldom are. Ask the Democratic republics, People republics and Freedom party's world wide.

The law is only good for the democrats to screw your opponents and when you can control corrupt judges and prosecutors. The law is particularly problematic when it works independent and when you can't control it. In such case you pick only the rulings that go in your favor.

I suppose that is when your react when you are only losing elections and still get into power because of your friends.

So it is normal to swap like this. Do they commonly just get let go after returned home?

Of course there was no espionage.

Agreed.

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To be totally honest and brutally frank the two incarcerated persons were and are nothing more than walking lobotomies, hence their current situation

Just in time to join the new bandwagon of patriots in a fresh upbeat campaign

although i doubt they join border area protests.

Their arrogance by far outweighed their ignorance and were justly rewarded. No one really gives a toss if they were returned. The quid pro quo situation would just be a "he-said she-said" deal and appease protocols so both sides can go back to bitching.

More worrying part of this article is the dem spokesperson quote. If its true not a good sign if things to come, jumping on the PAD wagon is the last thing we need from the dems. To my amazement it seems the only ones willing to accept the ICJ verdict ( whatever it may be ) are PT. Seems like hell can freeze after all.

More worrying part of this article is the dem spokesperson quote. If its true not a good sign if things to come, jumping on the PAD wagon is the last thing we need from the dems. To my amazement it seems the only ones willing to accept the ICJ verdict ( whatever it may be ) are PT. Seems like hell can freeze after all.

On the face of it you are right. But there is some justification for the Dems to distrust the Thaksin-led PTP as just allowing Cambodia to win would accelerate DL's projects in Cambodia.

More worrying part of this article is the dem spokesperson quote. If its true not a good sign if things to come, jumping on the PAD wagon is the last thing we need from the dems. To my amazement it seems the only ones willing to accept the ICJ verdict ( whatever it may be ) are PT. Seems like hell can freeze after all.

On the face of it you are right. But there is some justification for the Dems to distrust the Thaksin-led PTP as just allowing Cambodia to win would accelerate DL's projects in Cambodia.

Absolutely agree with you. It could well be that PT are doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons.

More worrying part of this article is the dem spokesperson quote. If its true not a good sign if things to come, jumping on the PAD wagon is the last thing we need from the dems. To my amazement it seems the only ones willing to accept the ICJ verdict ( whatever it may be ) are PT. Seems like hell can freeze after all.

On the face of it you are right. But there is some justification for the Dems to distrust the Thaksin-led PTP as just allowing Cambodia to win would accelerate DL's projects in Cambodia.

Sorry for my ignorance. but who is DL, and what projects are those?

More worrying part of this article is the dem spokesperson quote. If its true not a good sign if things to come, jumping on the PAD wagon is the last thing we need from the dems. To my amazement it seems the only ones willing to accept the ICJ verdict ( whatever it may be ) are PT. Seems like hell can freeze after all.

On the face of it you are right. But there is some justification for the Dems to distrust the Thaksin-led PTP as just allowing Cambodia to win would accelerate DL's projects in Cambodia.

Sorry for my ignorance. but who is DL, and what projects are those?

dear leader?

If Ratree has been pardoned, why does there need to be a prisoner swap for her? Is Veera worth 2 Cambodians?

Democrats urged to pull out of Vihear panel? Of course beware of any country, party or organization with the name "Democrat" in their name, they seldom are. Ask the Democratic republics, People republics and Freedom party's world wide.

This has been mentioned several times, but most people pick the local and most obvious examples - UDD and DAAD.

What is notable is that both have a double dose of BS.

Very low key announcement in the other paper, that Ratree will be released on the 1st of Feb.

FM lauding confidential diplomacy, which I suppose is better than yellow shirted grannies and the army.