Thai Govt Gets Tough Over Power Use: Electricity Consumption

[brfsa2]

A first measure will be stop building new shopping malls each month. They consume so much power and have no benefit for society...

[OzMick]

Look at Germany. They produce some 20 GW with solar power, more than every other country combined. And that is in Germany which is not really known to have blistering sunshine the year around. Imagine what could be done here. Thailand could without much effort be producing all the energy it needs itself and not be depending on other countries. The sun is here. The tools and technology are available.

Now all you need is some method to store all that energy for when the sun isn't shining.

FYI to calculate actual energy output we have to include capacity factor, ie the percentage of energy actually produced compared to theoretical output. In Germany this will be about 14%, so instead of 20GW x 24 hours = 480 GWh/day we actually get 480 x14% = 67.2 GWh/day none of which is available during peak load periods so we still need peak load capacity from other sources.

In Thailand, the capacity factor will be ~19%, and while this might help in the current fuel shortage, it would not replace ANY of the current power producers, or fill the need for more to cover increase in peak load.

Edited February 20, 2013 by OzMick

[diddums]

Shutdown Ikea....that god dam_n huge storage she full of crap...

[Thai at Heart]

Institute siestas.

Avoid the heat of the day

[overherebc]

Look at Germany. They produce some 20 GW with solar power, more than every other country combined. And that is in Germany which is not really known to have blistering sunshine the year around. Imagine what could be done here. Thailand could without much effort be producing all the energy it needs itself and not be depending on other countries. The sun is here. The tools and technology are available.

Add in the skim factor out here before you even decide to talk about costs

[FlorC]

Why don't they just lower the Voltage from 235 V to 205-210 V ?

It won't affect electronics , lights, engines (AirCon) , frigdes,....anything with resistors for heating water , cooking,...

Saves 10 to 15 % electricity.

[MESmith]

My local post office installed A/C last week. Both myself & the guy behind the counter thought it was too cold. Hopefully he will advise boss to turn the thermostat up. Repeat around the whole country in offices, shops, malls, banks etc. Problem solved?

Edited February 20, 2013 by MESmith

[chrisrazz]

Turn off the fairy lights that blaze throughout the nation at every government office. That'll be a start.

Edited February 20, 2013 by chrisrazz

[rubl]

^ Tanaka, on 2013-02-20 13:26:21, said:

Look at Germany. They produce some 20 GW with solar power, more than every other country combined. And that is in Germany which is not really known to have blistering sunshine the year around. Imagine what could be done here. Thailand could without much effort be producing all the energy it needs itself and not be depending on other countries. The sun is here. The tools and technology are available.

It's not just having sunshine, it's also understanding political will, consistency. Like in the USA:

2013-02-08

"It's Always Sunny in Germany: Fox News Fails to Grasp Solar Power Reality"

http://www.geekosyst...ny-solar-power/

[Tep]

Get a selection of high-usage businesses together and ask (demand) them to reduce their consumption by (say) 5-10% during the critical period.

No need for Taliban style demand side management. Why not pay them the equivalent cost of supplying electricity for their electricity reduction? This is done in many places. It is called Negawatts or Demand Response. It treats energy savings and energy efficiency in the same way as energy supply ie as a resource that can be priced. EGAT is working on a plan for this now starting with large power consumers. Technology allows additional options. Some power system operators can remotely switch off residential appliances using smart grid technologies. These programs are useful for managing peak demands. By using energy efficiency, you do not need to build more expensive 'peaking' plants - those plants that only operate to serve peak periods.

No Power Development Plan (PDP) that I can remember, including the latest PDP 2010 Revision 3, originally referred to by a previous Minister of Energy as the 'Green Plan' included demand side management or energy efficiency as a resource. A fully functioning Demand Response program would have gone a long way to dealing with the April power shortage issue.

Edited February 20, 2013 by Tep