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Yingluck, Najib to announce joint steps on South
Piyanart Srivalo,
Khanittha Theppajorn,
Anapat Deechuay
The Nation

MoU spells out areas of bilateral cooperation

KUALA LUMPUR: -- The Thai and Malaysian prime ministers will today announce joint moves to seek a solution to the unrest in the deep South.


At the same time, National Security Council (NSC) chief Paradorn Pattanathabutr will sign an agreement on security co-operation with his Malaysian counterpart to facilitate talks with separatists.

But Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has dismissed reports of a plan to have former premier General Chavalit Yongchaiyudh as her adviser on the unrest issues, saying there had been no formal invitation for Chavalit to work with her.

Following the 5th annual prime ministers' meeting, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak and Yingluck will issue a statement reflecting bilateral ties and co-operation in the border area, as well as economic and social development.

Their proposals will include:

- Cooperation to tackle the southern unrest through economic development, to boost border area stability and security as well as cooperation under a Confidence Building Measures (CBMs) framework emphasising education, employment and business.

- The linkage of Thailand's Southern Development Plan (SDP) to Malaysia's northern and western states as well as accelerating two bridge projects over the Sungai Kolok River to link Narathiwat's Tak Bai district to Pengkalan Kubur and to Rantau Panjang.

- Promotion of private sector trade and investment in gasoline and gas, the automobile industry, rubber and tourism as well as the setting up of a Thai-Malaysian business council.

- Halal product promotion cooperation.

- Radio frequency co-operation in the border area to support television and cellphone service business expansion.

- An agreement to help travellers cross the border and a memorandum of understanding for youth affairs and sport cooperation to boost bilateral friendship ahead of the Asean Economic Community in 2015.

- Labour co-operation allowing Thai workers at tom yum gung shops in Malaysia to work legally.

- Speeding up cooperation through:

1) employment and human resources development to certify labour skill standards;

2) immigration affairs and two-nation person-related issues;

3) suppressing transnational crime;

4) inmate transfer;

5) extradition treaty review;

6) border cooperation agreement review;

7) conclusion to the anti-human trafficking agreement;

8) and conclusion of an agreement on passenger and money transport over the Thai-Malaysian border.

NSC chief Paradorn yesterday flew to Malaysia to set up the initial steps.

He said Malaysia would facilitate talks with separatist leaders and the understanding was that less than 1,000 insurgent sympathisers were in Malaysia.

The Fourth Army commander's adviser Chok Perksopon told the House Committee for national security yesterday that Region 4 Internal Security Operations Command would ask the Cabinet to cancel the Emergency Law and apply the Internal Security Act (ISA) in Yala's Betong and Kabang district, Pattani's Mai Kaen district and Narathiwat's Waeng and Sukhirin districts.

The ISA Article 21 is currently in force in Songkhla's Chana, Thepa, Saba Yoi and Na Thawee districts and Pattani's Mae Lan district.

Seven suspected insurgents have surrendered to Thai authorities in Songkhla.

Thai officials yesterday inspected the scene where a bomb damaged two electric poles on Phetchakasem Highway in Narathiwat's Yi Ngor |district on Tuesday night.

Police suspected insurgents planted the bomb to scare away new investment in the area.

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-- The Nation 2013-02-28

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I'll bet that long list came from Malaysia as I very much doubt the PM or her 'advisers' would have ben able to formulate that. If they had it would have been on the table a long time ago and people like Chalerm would not have been playing 'ostrich' and saying he has asked for the co-operation of Abhisit in formulating ideas, unless Abhisit sent part or whole of this list to Chalerm to give to Yingluck.

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Wouldn't the former-PM want to deal directly with the organ-grinder, rather than via the monkey ?

Hope he can contribute something, and isn't too busy, reading all the DSI pre-Bangkok-election accusations against him !

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Thailand, rebel group agree to seek peace talks

by Shannon Teoh


KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 28, 2013 (AFP) - Thailand signed its first-ever public agreement with a rebel group in its Muslim-majority south on Thursday, pledging to work toward peace talks aimed at ending a festering insurgency.


The potentially historic deal was signed in Kuala Lumpur between Thai officials and a representative of the Barisan Revolusi Nasional (BRN) rebel group hours before a visit to Malaysia by Thai premier Yingluck Shinawatra.


Yingluck was to meet later in the day with her host, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, for annual talks set to include the nine-year insurgency and the possibility of Malaysia hosting future Thai negotiations with the militants.


There has been a recent spike in attacks along Thailand's border with Muslim-majority Malaysia, where the nine-year insurgency has claimed more than 5,500 lives.


The "general consensus document to launch a dialogue process for peace" was signed by Lieutenant-General Paradorn Pattanathabutr, secretary general of Thailand's National Security Council, and Hassan Taib of the BRN.


"Thank Allah we will do our best to solve the problem. We will tell our people to work together to solve the problems," Hassan told reporters after the ceremony.


Hassan was identified as the "chief of the BRN liaison office in Malaysia."


Officials involved in the ceremony otherwise offered little comment on the agreement and a text of the pledge was not handed out.


Barisan Revolusi Nasional, which in Malay means "National Revolutionary Front", is one of several shadowy groups blamed for the unrest in Thailand.


It remains to be seen whether other groups will fall in line behind the BRN.


Prospects for peace have been dogged by the complex make-up of the insurgency and doubts persist over the level of control that older, exiled leaders known to Thai authorities exert over the younger -- and more violent -- fighters on the ground.


Duncan McCargo, a Leeds University researcher and expert on southern Thailand, called the "unusually high profile" deal a welcome sign that Thailand recognises a political solution is needed.


However, he noted that various back-channel discussions have been under way for years with little sign of a coherent strategy or progress.


"Under the circumstances the latest news needs to be viewed with considerable caution," he said.


Paradorn said on Wednesday it was important for "core militant leaders... active in mounting the violence" to be identified and involved in any talks, adding Thailand was still establishing the authority of militant leaders to negotiate.


A Malaysian official said more details of the agreement would be released later by Najib.


Thailand's southernmost provinces suffer almost daily gun and bomb attacks by shadowy insurgents fighting for greater autonomy, a demand Thai authorities have rejected.


Malaysia already hosts negotiations between the Philippine government and Muslim separatists in the south of that country which resulted in October in a landmark agreement aimed at ending a decades-long insurgency.

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-- (c) Copyright AFP 2013-02-28

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Thai PM visits Malaysia for 5th Annual Consultation
By English News

BANGKOK, Feb 28 - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra left Bangkok this morning to visit Malaysia for the 5th Annual Consultation (AC) with her Malaysian counterpart Najib Tun Razak.

Ms Yingluck is accompanied by Deputy Prime Minister/Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul and several other ministers.

The 5th Annual Consultation aims at cultivating friendly relations between the two prime ministers as well as relevant ministers of both countries, reaffirming the close partnership between Thailand and Malaysia, following up on the progress on various areas of cooperation since Ms Yingluck's official visit to Malaysia on February 20, 2012.

During the consultation, the parties are expected to discuss varied issues of common interest, including a comprehensive approach to resolve the insurgency in Thailand's southern border provinces, social and economic development and connectivity in border areas such as the proposed construction of two bridges crossing the Golok River linking Thailand's Narathiwat province and Malaysia's Kelantan state.

They will also discuss cooperating in legally employing Thai workers in Thai restaurants in Malaysia, cooperation regarding the halal industry, with Thailand's National Committee on the Promotion of Halal Business and Products to work with Malaysia’s Halal Industry Development Corporation to cooperate in the areas of marketing, services, and research and development.

Cooperation on trade and investment, such as the establishment of a Thailand-Malaysia Business Council and cooperation on tourism, particularly linking Satun province with Langkawi island and railway tourism on the Padang Besar-Hadyai-Bangkok and Chiang Mai routes, will also be on the agenda.

After the plenary session, the prime ministers will witness the signing of an agreement on border crossings and an MoU on youth and sports cooperating before holding a joint news conference.

The Malaysian prime minister will also host a dinner in honour of the Thai premier and her delegation.

Thailand hosted the Fourth Annual Consultation on December 8-9, 2009. (MCOT online news)

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-- TNA 2013-02-28

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The Malaysians claim 1000 Thai terrorists in Malaysia. They must know who they are but don't stop their crimes.

In the state of Kelantan the federal government of Malaysia don't really have much say about the Malays of Kelantan that have been supporting the insurgency.

It is known that the Malays including some top Kelantan officials show at least moral support to the Southern Malay insurgency in the deep South.

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SOUTH CRISIS
Thailand agrees to talk peace with southern Muslim rebel group

The Natiom

KUALA LUMPUR: -- Thai security officials on Thursday signed adeal to start peace talks with a Muslim rebel group involved in escalating violence in the southern provinces that has killed more than 5,000 people since 2004.

Thai security officials and representatives of the BarisanRevolusi Nasional, signed the agreement in Kuala Lumpur ahead of thevisit of Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra for the 5th Malaysia-Thailand Annual Consultation.

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak and Yingluck were expected to appraise existing cooperation and explore new initiatives, Malaysia’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

The leaders were expected to discuss efforts to promote peace, stability, prosperity and connectivity in the border areas, as well as cooperation in labour, trade, education and tourism.

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-- The Nation 2013-02-28

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Could be a great news!

I agree Anguid...and hope something positive comes outta this.

One thing bugs me though....3) suppressing transnational crime;

The border is so fluid and transnational crime has been happening

for centuries with "authorities" on both sides making huge profits,

it's gonna be awfully difficult to suppress...if at all.

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Got to love The Nation and their politics....

While the Bangkok Post titles "Historic Handshake" and the BBC make it front page news The Nation's top story is : " Volleyball Globe 2012 : Noostsara wins 'Best Setter'" The south crisis story is below and gets three lines.. haha.. god forbid they put out preeminently any positive Yingluck government news wherever it comes from.

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Wouldn't the former-PM want to deal directly with the organ-grinder, rather than via the monkey ?

Hope he can contribute something, and isn't too busy, reading all the DSI pre-Bangkok-election accusations against him !

I doubt if the organ grinder wants to get involved given his past record in dealing with unhappy muslims.

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The Malaysians claim 1000 Thai terrorists in Malaysia. They must know who they are but don't stop their crimes.

In the state of Kelantan the federal government of Malaysia don't really have much say about the Malays of Kelantan that have been supporting the insurgency.

It is known that the Malays including some top Kelantan officials show at least moral support to the Southern Malay insurgency in the deep South.

Naturally, as a preemptive measure. They've seen what the Siamese and their mob bosses have done with the Patani sultanate and understandably don't want their colonization spreading further.

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The Malaysians claim 1000 Thai terrorists in Malaysia. They must know who they are but don't stop their crimes.

In the state of Kelantan the federal government of Malaysia don't really have much say about the Malays of Kelantan that have been supporting the insurgency.

It is known that the Malays including some top Kelantan officials show at least moral support to the Southern Malay insurgency in the deep South.

Naturally, as a preemptive measure. They've seen what the Siamese and their mob bosses have done with the Patani sultanate and understandably don't want their colonization spreading further.

Yes, but you don't understand where Denizen is coming from . . . that Malaysia is a hotbed of Muslim extremism, part and parcel of wanting a pan-Asian Caliphate etc etc etc . . . the Malaysian government supports the insurgents . . . only Muslim Malays are considered Bumis . . . yadda yadda yadda.

Mobile Content - I's love to find some proof of the Kelantan gov't supporting the insurgency . . . it has been going on for years and years now, surely there must be press clippings, active examples etc . . .

All I can say from here (KL) is that the southern provinces are never spoken about in terms of belonging to Malaysia - actually I have never heard a Malaysian discuss the issue as it isn't important to them.

Well, added to that they have some 100 Filipino Muslim whackjobs invading Sabah with weapons, claiming the place fore their 'sultanate' . . . the Malaysians are quite unsure of what to do . . . just destroy them? These weirdos just won't leave.

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The Malaysians claim 1000 Thai terrorists in Malaysia. They must know who they are but don't stop their crimes.

In the state of Kelantan the federal government of Malaysia don't really have much say about the Malays of Kelantan that have been supporting the insurgency.

It is known that the Malays including some top Kelantan officials show at least moral support to the Southern Malay insurgency in the deep South.

Naturally, as a preemptive measure. They've seen what the Siamese and their mob bosses have done with the Patani sultanate and understandably don't want their colonization spreading further.

Yes, but you don't understand where Denizen is coming from . . . that Malaysia is a hotbed of Muslim extremism, part and parcel of wanting a pan-Asian Caliphate etc etc etc . . . the Malaysian government supports the insurgents . . . only Muslim Malays are considered Bumis . . . yadda yadda yadda.

Mobile Content - I's love to find some proof of the Kelantan gov't supporting the insurgency . . . it has been going on for years and years now, surely there must be press clippings, active examples etc . . .

All I can say from here (KL) is that the southern provinces are never spoken about in terms of belonging to Malaysia - actually I have never heard a Malaysian discuss the issue as it isn't important to them.

Well, added to that they have some 100 Filipino Muslim whackjobs invading Sabah with weapons, claiming the place fore their 'sultanate' . . . the Malaysians are quite unsure of what to do . . . just destroy them? These weirdos just won't leave.

Maybe the solution is for Malaysia to send its Northern Malaysian extremists to duke it out with the Filipinos in Sabah.

Maybe Phillipines has a legitimate claim to Sabah. The British cobbled Malaysia together from disparate regions of Asia. The proximity of Sabah to Phillipines suggests Phillipines claim may have merit.

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The Malaysians do not appear to have much taste for Filipinos liberating Sabah while supporting terrorists in South of Thailand.

Malaysia has just escalated the situation by Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers in Sabah. This escalation could spread to mainland Malaysia which could make Malaysia appear racist and increase Filipino support for the Filipino invaders in Sabah.

Reuters had reported that Malaysia pays a token sum to the Sultanate of Sulu each year for the “rental” of Sabah — an arrangement that stretches back to British colonial times.

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Agreed, if there were a way to match the Sulu weirdos against the S Thai...um..."freedom fighters"...

And preferably set up CCTV cameras for us all to watch.

How about a reality TV show with Sing Sling as the commentator.

By the way, the Filipinos may have some merit to their cause.

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Thailand, rebel group agree to seek peace talks

by Shannon Teoh

KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 28, 2013 (AFP) - Thailand signed its first-ever public agreement with a rebel group in its Muslim-majority south on Thursday, pledging to work toward peace talks aimed at ending a festering insurgency.

The potentially historic deal was signed in Kuala Lumpur between Thai officials and a representative of the Barisan Revolusi Nasional (BRN) rebel group hours before a visit to Malaysia by Thai premier Yingluck Shinawatra.

Yingluck was to meet later in the day with her host, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, for annual talks set to include the nine-year insurgency and the possibility of Malaysia hosting future Thai negotiations with the militants.

There has been a recent spike in attacks along Thailand's border with Muslim-majority Malaysia, where the nine-year insurgency has claimed more than 5,500 lives.

The "general consensus document to launch a dialogue process for peace" was signed by Lieutenant-General Paradorn Pattanathabutr, secretary general of Thailand's National Security Council, and Hassan Taib of the BRN.

"Thank Allah we will do our best to solve the problem. We will tell our people to work together to solve the problems," Hassan told reporters after the ceremony.

Hassan was identified as the "chief of the BRN liaison office in Malaysia."

Officials involved in the ceremony otherwise offered little comment on the agreement and a text of the pledge was not handed out.

Barisan Revolusi Nasional, which in Malay means "National Revolutionary Front", is one of several shadowy groups blamed for the unrest in Thailand.

It remains to be seen whether other groups will fall in line behind the BRN.

Prospects for peace have been dogged by the complex make-up of the insurgency and doubts persist over the level of control that older, exiled leaders known to Thai authorities exert over the younger -- and more violent -- fighters on the ground.

Duncan McCargo, a Leeds University researcher and expert on southern Thailand, called the "unusually high profile" deal a welcome sign that Thailand recognises a political solution is needed.

However, he noted that various back-channel discussions have been under way for years with little sign of a coherent strategy or progress.

"Under the circumstances the latest news needs to be viewed with considerable caution," he said.

Paradorn said on Wednesday it was important for "core militant leaders... active in mounting the violence" to be identified and involved in any talks, adding Thailand was still establishing the authority of militant leaders to negotiate.

A Malaysian official said more details of the agreement would be released later by Najib.

Thailand's southernmost provinces suffer almost daily gun and bomb attacks by shadowy insurgents fighting for greater autonomy, a demand Thai authorities have rejected.

Malaysia already hosts negotiations between the Philippine government and Muslim separatists in the south of that country which resulted in October in a landmark agreement aimed at ending a decades-long insurgency.

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-- (c) Copyright AFP 2013-02-28

Very significant.

I would be over optimistic to think this will bring a big change, but it is significant.

It looks a though they finally realise that this is a SEPARATIST movement too.

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That's a whole lot of "Proposals" on the table.. let's wait and see which ones get acted on. Knowing the Thai's, their primary action will be the "Tom Yum Gong" shops. (bent over laughing)

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The Malaysians do not appear to have much taste for Filipinos liberating Sabah while supporting terrorists in South of Thailand.

Malaysia has just escalated the situation by Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers in Sabah. This escalation could spread to mainland Malaysia which could make Malaysia appear racist and increase Filipino support for the Filipino invaders in Sabah.

Reuters had reported that Malaysia pays a token sum to the Sultanate of Sulu each year for the “rental” of Sabah — an arrangement that stretches back to British colonial times.

Again, you go on about Malaysia supporting insurgents in Thailand . . . and again you show nothing in terms of proof and are shown to be wrong pretty much every time you make such a ridiculous statement.

Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers . . . government-supported racism . . . and you do realise that Filipinos and Malays are one and the same ethnicity?

Yet more unsubstantiated rubbish from you on this front

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The Malaysians do not appear to have much taste for Filipinos liberating Sabah while supporting terrorists in South of Thailand.

Malaysia has just escalated the situation by Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers in Sabah. This escalation could spread to mainland Malaysia which could make Malaysia appear racist and increase Filipino support for the Filipino invaders in Sabah.

Reuters had reported that Malaysia pays a token sum to the Sultanate of Sulu each year for the “rental” of Sabah — an arrangement that stretches back to British colonial times.

Again, you go on about Malaysia supporting insurgents in Thailand . . . and again you show nothing in terms of proof and are shown to be wrong pretty much every time you make such a ridiculous statement.

Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers . . . government-supported racism . . . and you do realise that Filipinos and Malays are one and the same ethnicity?

Yet more unsubstantiated rubbish from you on this front

  1. The Thai Southern terrorists appear to have a carefree existence in Kelantan with all their needs supplied and no harassment from authorities.
  2. Explosive devices seem to flow across the border because no stash of basic explosive materials has yet been found in Thailand
  3. Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers was reported in the media. Bumiputras are very jingoistic and reactionary.
  4. If you go back far enough in time we are all of the same ethnicity.
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The Malaysians do not appear to have much taste for Filipinos liberating Sabah while supporting terrorists in South of Thailand.

Malaysia has just escalated the situation by Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers in Sabah. This escalation could spread to mainland Malaysia which could make Malaysia appear racist and increase Filipino support for the Filipino invaders in Sabah.

Reuters had reported that Malaysia pays a token sum to the Sultanate of Sulu each year for the “rental” of Sabah — an arrangement that stretches back to British colonial times.

Again, you go on about Malaysia supporting insurgents in Thailand . . . and again you show nothing in terms of proof and are shown to be wrong pretty much every time you make such a ridiculous statement.

Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers . . . government-supported racism . . . and you do realise that Filipinos and Malays are one and the same ethnicity?

Yet more unsubstantiated rubbish from you on this front

  1. The Thai Southern terrorists appear to have a carefree existence in Kelantan with all their needs supplied and no harassment from authorities.
  2. Explosive devices seem to flow across the border because no stash of basic explosive materials has yet been found in Thailand
  3. Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers was reported in the media. Bumiputras are very jingoistic and reactionary.
  4. If you go back far enough in time we are all of the same ethnicity.

1) - I'd love to see some proof of this carefree existence with all needs supplied by the authorities. Proof would be good

2) - Explosive devices 'seem to flow' across the border . . . any links to this?

3) - Malaysian employers firing Filipinos . . . ok, show me where this mass firing is occurring, please. A few here and there - I've searched and can find that about maybe ten out of 800.000 were fired. Oh, and you do realise that most employers in Sabah are Chinese, which brings me to your next point . . . about Bumis being jingoistic . . . and what? Reactionary? clap2.gif

4) - We're not talking about going back in time, we are talking about now, so stop trying to obfuscate the issue by silly innuendo, baseless bluster and generalisations.

I don't know what your beef is with Malays, Muslims, Bumis, Malaysians . . . but there is much to criticise without resorting to ridiculous throw-away one liners which you can't substantiate

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The Malaysians do not appear to have much taste for Filipinos liberating Sabah while supporting terrorists in South of Thailand.

Malaysia has just escalated the situation by Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers in Sabah. This escalation could spread to mainland Malaysia which could make Malaysia appear racist and increase Filipino support for the Filipino invaders in Sabah.

Reuters had reported that Malaysia pays a token sum to the Sultanate of Sulu each year for the “rental” of Sabah — an arrangement that stretches back to British colonial times.

Again, you go on about Malaysia supporting insurgents in Thailand . . . and again you show nothing in terms of proof and are shown to be wrong pretty much every time you make such a ridiculous statement.

Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers . . . government-supported racism . . . and you do realise that Filipinos and Malays are one and the same ethnicity?

Yet more unsubstantiated rubbish from you on this front

  1. The Thai Southern terrorists appear to have a carefree existence in Kelantan with all their needs supplied and no harassment from authorities.
  2. Explosive devices seem to flow across the border because no stash of basic explosive materials has yet been found in Thailand
  3. Malaysian employers firing Filipino workers was reported in the media. Bumiputras are very jingoistic and reactionary.
  4. If you go back far enough in time we are all of the same ethnicity.

1) - I'd love to see some proof of this carefree existence with all needs supplied by the authorities. Proof would be good

2) - Explosive devices 'seem to flow' across the border . . . any links to this?

3) - Malaysian employers firing Filipinos . . . ok, show me where this mass firing is occurring, please. A few here and there - I've searched and can find that about maybe ten out of 800.000 were fired. Oh, and you do realise that most employers in Sabah are Chinese, which brings me to your next point . . . about Bumis being jingoistic . . . and what? Reactionary? clap2.gif

4) - We're not talking about going back in time, we are talking about now, so stop trying to obfuscate the issue by silly innuendo, baseless bluster and generalisations.

I don't know what your beef is with Malays, Muslims, Bumis, Malaysians . . . but there is much to criticise without resorting to ridiculous throw-away one liners which you can't substantiate

  1. Would you like some photos of them frolicking in the shrubbery?
  2. Read the body counts in Thai newspapers.
  3. Some employers may be Chinese but the Bumiputra's run the state.
  4. We are all brothers and sisters under the skin.
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