Thai, Malaysian Leaders Say Thaksin Involved In Peace Process

[Mosha]

Perhaps he is involved as he wishes to keep an eye or maybe keep a lid on any information that could damage his reputation or even land him in trouble.

If you wish to control an outcome, you have to be involved in the process.

He is claimed to be living under a Muslim host.

I've never considered the irony of that. He is holed up in Dubai, yet he's no friend of the Muslim population in southern Thailand.

More like Hypocrisy.

[Artisi]

I will say it again, thaksin hasn't got the necessary anatomy to ever set foot back in Thailand, and as for being a peace negotiator for the problems he help escalate in the south - fat chance. As another poster said earlier, if he had the necessary anatomy he would head straight to the south to help with negotiations - not in this life and not in any future lives of the criminal fugitive excuse for a Thai.

[waza]

Great news Thaksin has bribed some has been insurgency iaison chief of the Patani independence movement the BRN, to sign a peace plan just before the Bangkok elections. But what of the other groups?

Mujahideen Pattani Movement (BNP)
Pattani United Liberation Organization(former (PULO)
Pattani Islamic Mujahideen Movement(GMIP)
Mujahideen Islamic Pattani Group
National Revolution Front (BRN)
Pattani Liberation National Front (BNPP)
Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)
Runda Kumpulan Kecil (RKK)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Thailand_insurgency

Identifying the groups directing the insurgency has been challenging, but most analysis suggests

that there is no one organization with authority over the others. Some reports suggest that the

Barisan Revolusi Nasional-Coordinate (BRN-C) has coordinated other groups that operate largely

autonomously. Other actors are older Islamist separatist groups, including the Pattani United

Liberation Organization (Pulo) and Gerakan Mujahideen Islam Pattani (GMIP). An organization

called Bersatu at one point claimed to be an umbrella grouping for all the insurgent factions, but

appears to have very limited authority over the disparate networks. The failure of the Thai

government to establish an authority with whom to negotiate limits its ability to resolve the

conflict peacefully. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL32593.pdf

"What we are seeing is a transfer of power within the insurgency from an older generation, which favors negotiation, to a younger radicalized generation who see negotiation as an act of betrayal to the ideology of separatism," he said. "There is now a split in the leadership." http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/18/world/asia/thailand-explainer

I guess the awarding of Thai Royal awards to senior Malaysian policemen had some effect, However, the proof that this is more than a publicity stunt will be shown in the future cessation of terrorist acts.

Edited March 1, 2013 by waza

[bkkjohnny69]

the other irony is that Najib, if opinion polls are to be believed, may well be out of a job shortly. So another politically motivated stunt possibly to win votes back home.

[Rich teacher]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

[Mosha]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

What part of they want his head on a platter do you not understand?

[bigbamboo]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

'He'll be in control'....?

Oh no! One of the few Thaksinistas on TV and even you don't believe Yingluck is the real PM.

Can we trust no one any more?

[khunken]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

We'll see about Bangkok on Monday - funny you should say Thaksin's in control. Shame about Yingluck & the furby.

'Significant step towards a more peaceful South'? You're only fooling yourself (or trolling). As pointed out above, this is only one of many insurgency groups & there is considerable doubt that the signatory command anything. Odd (maybe not) that you've overlooked the possibility of a PR exercise here.

[Rich teacher]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

We'll see about Bangkok on Monday - funny you should say Thaksin's in control. Shame about Yingluck & the furby.

'Significant step towards a more peaceful South'? You're only fooling yourself (or trolling). As pointed out above, this is only one of many insurgency groups & there is considerable doubt that the signatory command anything. Odd (maybe not) that you've overlooked the possibility of a PR exercise here.

Well what did AV do about it, or anything apart from talking?

[Mosha]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

We'll see about Bangkok on Monday - funny you should say Thaksin's in control. Shame about Yingluck & the furby.

'Significant step towards a more peaceful South'? You're only fooling yourself (or trolling). As pointed out above, this is only one of many insurgency groups & there is considerable doubt that the signatory command anything. Odd (maybe not) that you've overlooked the possibility of a PR exercise here.

Well what did AV do about it, or anything apart from talking?

Your hero is the cause of much of the problem.

[khunken]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

We'll see about Bangkok on Monday - funny you should say Thaksin's in control. Shame about Yingluck & the furby.

'Significant step towards a more peaceful South'? You're only fooling yourself (or trolling). As pointed out above, this is only one of many insurgency groups & there is considerable doubt that the signatory command anything. Odd (maybe not) that you've overlooked the possibility of a PR exercise here.

Well what did AV do about it, or anything apart from talking?

I pressed like by mistake - have to blame the w-soda.

Apart from the fact that this thread is not about AV (always seem to get the but, buts) - he did very little regarding the south in his short term in power. However, he didn't cause the huge escalation in the early 2000s. It would be ironic (but very unlikely) if the person who was mainly responsible actually played a part in resolving it. Extremely unlikely.

[hellodolly]

“Like all Thai citizens, he (Mr Thaksin) wants peace in his home

country. Please don’t misinterpret his intention,” she said. “This is a

national agenda which everyone should have a hand in solving it. Don’t

implicate it to politics.”

After how Thaksin handled the situation in early 2000, by reversing everything that had been done prior to manage peace, and actually ordered executions of these people through his "war on drugs policy". How else can this be seen, as only, politically motivated? Could people be so stupid as to think otherwise?

She is admitting that the government can not handle it.

That is why she is saying "everyone should have a hand in solving it"

[hellodolly]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

We'll see about Bangkok on Monday - funny you should say Thaksin's in control. Shame about Yingluck & the furby.

'Significant step towards a more peaceful South'? You're only fooling yourself (or trolling). As pointed out above, this is only one of many insurgency groups & there is considerable doubt that the signatory command anything. Odd (maybe not) that you've overlooked the possibility of a PR exercise here.

Well what did AV do about it, or anything apart from talking?

I pressed like by mistake - have to blame the w-soda.

Apart from the fact that this thread is not about AV (always seem to get the but, buts) - he did very little regarding the south in his short term in power. However, he didn't cause the huge escalation in the early 2000s. It would be ironic (but very unlikely) if the person who was mainly responsible actually played a part in resolving it. Extremely unlikely.

It would depend on how much money there is in it for him. If Thaksin really did get involved it would confuse the Malaysian PM. First Thaksin then Chalerm and now Yingluck.

He is probably waiting for the janitor.

[rubl]

Like all Thai citizens, he (Mr Thaksin) wants peace in his home country. Please dont misinterpret his intention, she said. This is a national agenda which everyone should have a hand in solving it. Dont implicate it to politics.

So, it's politics, timed correctly politically, just an agreement towards a peace process, an agreement about which the contents is unknown at this stage. Surely it will be a very clear and obvious path to peace and prosperity down South. Soon, very soon now, trust me. We even deal directly with the insurgents now. And with every small step the person of Thaksin is positioned more and more as 'a really good fellow who was mistreated'.

2012-04-09
Thaksin said remarks by the two Democrats were groundless, insisting he had never met with any insurgent leaders, including those from the PULO movement.

He said talks, if ever they take place, should be with a neighbouring country like Malaysia in order to deny the insurgents a safe haven.
When Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra paid a visit to Kuala Lumpur in February, she sought Malaysian cooperation in tracking down the insurgents, he said.
Although in his opinion, every war should end at the negotiating table and not the battlefield, the Thai government should not be a direct party engaged in talks with insurgents, Thaksin said.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/No-I-did-not-fugitive-ex-premier-30179595.html

The non-denial: "I am not in the position to conduct such negotiations since I am just an unemployed man," Thaksin said in an interview in Hong Kong.

[khaowong1]

Well, Thaksin has a long and sordid history of using (abusing actually) his position for his own benefit and political gain; but who knows, maybe this time there won't be any strings attached or self serving deals brokered.

Too bad being a PM by proxy he is unaccountable to the Thai people and there's no mechanism (i.e. parliamentary debate, as in a real democracy) to shed light into what is going on behind the scenes. We'll just have to trust him.

When is comes to Thaksin, there's always strings attached..

[rubl]

Oh BTW Dont implicate it to politics.

August 2011 the real PM Ms. Yingluck read out her government's policies and even named a few to be implemented in the first year

1.5 Expeditiously return peace and security to peoples life and property in the Southern Border Provinces along with alleviation of poverty, narcotic drugs and dark forces by adopting His Majesty the Kings guidance to understand, reach out, develop as the principle of peaceful conduct by emphasizing the promotion of cooperation in all sectors of society in the area; ensure justice and fairness; enhance the opportunity for education and quality of life; create opportunities and equality; develop the economy and society; respect identities, local customs and traditions; promote decentralization of local governance in line with constitutional local practices. Furthermore, there will be integrated administration to ensure unity at both policy and operational levels in all sectors of society, the improvement and development of relevant laws and rules in congruence with the actual nature of the problem, as well as the provision of remedies to persons affected by violence.

[justathought]

What a bizarre story. After Tak Bai, I would have thought there would be a contractout on Thaksin, rather than a position at some sort of south Thailand peace brokering...... This has to be some sort of feel good bullshit cooked up as part of the whitewashing of Thaksin.

Tony Blair is a peace missionary now. His track record of starting many wars has won him this role. Thaksin is following the same trail. If this sort of thing can happen in farang countries, why can it not be so in Thailand??

[rubl]

What a bizarre story. After Tak Bai, I would have thought there would be a contractout on Thaksin, rather than a position at some sort of south Thailand peace brokering...... This has to be some sort of feel good bullshit cooked up as part of the whitewashing of Thaksin.

Tony Blair is a peace missionary now. His track record of starting many wars has won him this role. Thaksin is following the same trail. If this sort of thing can happen in farang countries, why can it not be so in Thailand??

You missed the part on Thaksin being a convicted criminal who also is a fugitive, did you? No way can any farang more than just try to clear the path for St. Thaksin the Just

[EyesWideOpen]

What a bizarre story. After Tak Bai, I would have thought there would be a contractout on Thaksin, rather than a position at some sort of south Thailand peace brokering...... This has to be some sort of feel good bullshit cooked up as part of the whitewashing of Thaksin.

Tony Blair is a peace missionary now. His track record of starting many wars has won him this role. Thaksin is following the same trail. If this sort of thing can happen in farang countries, why can it not be so in Thailand??

I submit for your edification:

1. Aesop's fables......The wolf in sheep's clothing.

2. Proverb......The leopard never changes its spots.

Turning the other cheek sounded great in Sunday school, but reality is

far different. I suspect Tak Bai is a rally point for the rebels,

and the man in charge at the time ( Thaksin) will not ever be looked

upon with benevolence....

Note to self======= stop replying to troll posters....

Edited March 1, 2013 by EyesWideOpen

[daboyz1]

What a bizarre story. After Tak Bai, I would have thought there would be a contractout on Thaksin, rather than a position at some sort of south Thailand peace brokering...... This has to be some sort of feel good bullshit cooked up as part of the whitewashing of Thaksin.

Tony Blair is a peace missionary now. His track record of starting many wars has won him this role. Thaksin is following the same trail. If this sort of thing can happen in farang countries, why can it not be so in Thailand??

Note to self======= stop replying to troll posters....

Should be part of the TOS if it isn't already.

[Greer]

I hope two of the demands from the Muslim side during the negotiations are the people who were responsible for the Krue Sae mosque and the Tak Bai massacre have charges brought against them with an ensuing trial.

The trial should be under the Shariah law.

....wouldn't make any difference...the one/s involved would simply do a runner again, say to some friendly (Muslim) nation... just a thought...

[A Member]

I suppose the first page of this thread will be filled with apologies from those who denied Thaksin's involvement not so long ago. Perhaps not.

This is a major surprise, the real PM is actively involved but I thought he was out of politics forever. Adds credence to the question " how do you know when a Thai is lying ? " The lips move

[Buchholz]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

'He'll be in control'....?

Oh no! One of the few Thaksinistas on TV and even you don't believe Yingluck is the real PM.

Can we trust no one any more?

.

hahaha...

Just goes to show how difficult it is to be a "Thaksin Lover" these days.

Heap praise on him at the expense of revealing Yingluck to be the clone her brother said she was.

It's a fine balancing act that, as evidenced, is beyond the capability of most of them.

.

[Buchholz]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

We'll see about Bangkok on Monday - funny you should say Thaksin's in control. Shame about Yingluck & the furby.

'Significant step towards a more peaceful South'? You're only fooling yourself (or trolling). As pointed out above, this is only one of many insurgency groups & there is considerable doubt that the signatory command anything. Odd (maybe not) that you've overlooked the possibility of a PR exercise here.

.

This is also a throw back to the Thaksin (ver. 2.0) Samak fiasco, who tried to pull the same stunt. Give this some time and see if doesn't unravel the same way.

One thing that is definitely already repeating itself from that Thaksin flim-flam of 5 years ago... the violence isn't dropping a bit., eg. two significant bombings within 24 hours.

.

Edited March 2, 2013 by Buchholz

[Rich teacher]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

'He'll be in control'....?

Oh no! One of the few Thaksinistas on TV and even you don't believe Yingluck is the real PM.

Can we trust no one any more?

.

hahaha...

Just goes to show how difficult it is to be a "Thaksin Lover" these days.

Heap praise on him at the expense of revealing Yingluck to be the clone her brother said she was.

It's a fine balancing act that, as evidenced, is beyond the capability of most of them.

.

What is your point? The party's slogan was 'Thaksin thinks, Peua Thai does'. Yingluck said she rings him for advice. Detractors try to make out there is a big problem and loss of face for the government here, but they are clutching at the very few remaining straws.

You & the other army apologists may think it's a big issue, but the Thai electorate simply doesn't agree with you. You are all as out of touch with Thailand & the Thai people as AV. Thai people voted to have TS as an integral part of the government.

[metisdead]

Posts rambling off topic have been removed as well as the replies.

[Buchholz]

Oh BTW Dont implicate it to politics.

August 2011 the real PM Ms. Yingluck read out her government's policies and even named a few to be implemented in the first year

1.5 Expeditiously return peace and security to peoples life and property in the Southern Border Provinces along with alleviation of poverty, narcotic drugs and dark forces by adopting His Majesty the Kings guidance to understand, reach out, develop as the principle of peaceful conduct by emphasizing the promotion of cooperation in all sectors of society in the area; ensure justice and fairness; enhance the opportunity for education and quality of life; create opportunities and equality; develop the economy and society; respect identities, local customs and traditions; promote decentralization of local governance in line with constitutional local practices. Furthermore, there will be integrated administration to ensure unity at both policy and operational levels in all sectors of society, the improvement and development of relevant laws and rules in congruence with the actual nature of the problem, as well as the provision of remedies to persons affected by violence.

.

FAIL

(and that's even giving her an additional six months beyond her one year time frame)

.

[Buchholz]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

'He'll be in control'....?

Oh no! One of the few Thaksinistas on TV and even you don't believe Yingluck is the real PM.

Can we trust no one any more?

.

hahaha...

Just goes to show how difficult it is to be a "Thaksin Lover" these days.

Heap praise on him at the expense of revealing Yingluck to be the clone her brother said she was.

It's a fine balancing act that, as evidenced, is beyond the capability of most of them.

.

What is your point? The party's slogan was 'Thaksin thinks, Peua Thai does'. Yingluck said she rings him for advice.

She also laughingly said she's the REAL Prime Minister.

As for the Bangkok election, Abhisit, and the rest of your derailing attempt, please take it to the appropriate threads.

This is the debacle on the South thread.

.

[Rich teacher]

She is the REAL PM. She sits in the seat, signs the deals, ....Thaksin is the REAL PM's main advisor. Again, what is your point?

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.
Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

'He'll be in control'....?

Oh no! One of the few Thaksinistas on TV and even you don't believe Yingluck is the real PM.

Can we trust no one any more?

.
hahaha...

Just goes to show how difficult it is to be a "Thaksin Lover" these days.

Heap praise on him at the expense of revealing Yingluck to be the clone her brother said she was.

It's a fine balancing act that, as evidenced, is beyond the capability of most of them.

.

What is your point? The party's slogan was 'Thaksin thinks, Peua Thai does'. Yingluck said she rings him for advice.

She also laughingly said she's the REAL Prime Minister.

As for the Bangkok election, Abhisit, and the rest of your derailing attempt, please take it to the appropriate threads.

This is the debacle on the South thread.
.

[dcutman]

The bitterness is in full flow here. It must be hard being a Thaksin hater these days as he, his sister and his party go from strength to strength. Come Monday he'll be in control of Bangkok as well.

Instead of being abused by his spiteful, jealous enemies he must be highly commended for playing a major role in a significant step towards a more peaceful South.

'He'll be in control'....?

Oh no! One of the few Thaksinistas on TV and even you don't believe Yingluck is the real PM.

Can we trust no one any more?

.

hahaha...

Just goes to show how difficult it is to be a "Thaksin Lover" these days.

Heap praise on him at the expense of revealing Yingluck to be the clone her brother said she was.

It's a fine balancing act that, as evidenced, is beyond the capability of most of them.

.

What is your point? The party's slogan was 'Thaksin thinks, Peua Thai does'. Yingluck said she rings him for advice. Detractors try to make out there is a big problem and loss of face for the government here, but they are clutching at the very few remaining straws.

You & the other army apologists may think it's a big issue, but the Thai electorate simply doesn't agree with you. You are all as out of touch with Thailand & the Thai people as AV. Thai people voted to have TS as an integral part of the government.

Well, at least you didnt use the word democracy in your post.