homeownership Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 A friend of mind is currently in the Pattaya Area and was saying there are so unusual nationalities that have move in, which have in some areas suplanted Europeans and prior to that Americans. He said there are a lot of Russians, Nigerians, Arabs ans Indians now visiting Pattaya. Has anyone else noticed this and if so, in your opinion has the city improved with this new influx of nationalities are they getting alone. Does anyone know if they are spending any money. Do they indulge in the wide range of activities on offer in Patttaya. My friend said this was the last time he would take the time to visit and said he thought it was finished in his eyes. of course that his opinion and he is entitled to it, would you agree though or is this a change in demographics and nothing more ? Really interested to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Mouse Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Is there any difference comparing Pattaya with your Western country? In Australia, it is a great challenge to pick out the Australians. It seems that Western countries are being overrun with immigrants from everywhere. Pattaya is a holiday destination, so it stands to reason that there will be an abundance of falang tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Off topic Pattaya Bashing posts removed and will move the topic to Pattaya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda99 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) There are a lot of irish and brits still there to....when the day comes that it's full of russians that's the time to leave pattaya. Edited March 3, 2013 by honda99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swiss1960 Posted March 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2013 Is it not interesting who complains about too many Russians coming??? I can only assume that years ago, lot of Thais complained about the influx of Western farang and their not always so good influence like massive construction work, higher prices for everything, growing bar industry etc etc... Now the Thai have realized that the Russians are coming and started to change their menues / offers into Russian language also and hire translators to accomodate the new kind of tourists And now... it's the Western farang who complain about the Russians who don't behave the same way the western farang behave... For me, it's pretty easy... it's the Thai's country and if they decide to welcome and accomodate the new tourists, it's up to you to decide whether you want to stay in the city or not... and don't worry... if you stay, then in few years you will be used to the Russians being around and you might even have learned that new common language 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Aussies Americans Western Europeans all mix together. The Russians and Eastern Europeans do not mix, not even with one another. Arabs stick together and mingle with themselves, as does the Indian community. Is this a melting pot?? I think not. We are all just in 1 big city called Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenervoussurgeon Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 When people who live outside of Pattaya write about us ,they seem to think that Pattaya extends from 3rd road to beach rd and jomtien ,well most of us expats live well away from the tourist areas ,where there are no Russians ,no Indians ,No Arabs ,just the usuall mix of Westerners there has always been Pattaya central is a tourist town ,the come ,they go ,but we stay all the time ,its the same in tourist towns the world over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatballs Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 My wife wonders where the farang are on WS these days. She thinks they are broke maybe? Well, WS is not Pattaya. If you travel to the dark side the number or Russians and Indians shrinks dramatically. How many Russians and Indians live on the dark side? Probably only a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 How many Russians and Indians live on the dark side? I dont know about Indians but the Russians (and associated nationalities) are absolutely everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 My wife wonders where the farang are on WS these days. She thinks they are broke maybe? Well, WS is not Pattaya. If you travel to the dark side the number or Russians and Indians shrinks dramatically. How many Russians and Indians live on the dark side? Probably only a few. Please let me coorect that for you. If you travel to the dark side the number or Russians and Indians shrinks hasn't risen dramatically YET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil Conners Posted March 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2013 It would be nice if people would stop bashing Russians and Indians based on what they see in walking street. Low class people don't come from any particular nation. I've met some people from Russia (and other former eat bloc states) and India that had considerably more class than some people I've met from UK, US and EU. I'm no more apprehensive at getting a Russian or Indian neighbor than a Brit or German. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenervoussurgeon Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 How many Russians and Indians live on the dark side? I dont know about Indians but the Russians (and associated nationalities) are absolutely everywhere. I've never seen a Russian around the areas i frequent and live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinghaJoe Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) How many Russians and Indians live on the dark side? I dont know about Indians but the Russians (and associated nationalities) are absolutely everywhere. I've never seen a Russian around the areas i frequent and live. In Khao Talo russians are everywhere, though not nearly as prevelent as in Pattaya city center Edited March 3, 2013 by SinghaJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBINPATTAYA Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 My wife wonders where the farang are on WS these days. She thinks they are broke maybe? Well, WS is not Pattaya. If you travel to the dark side the number or Russians and Indians shrinks dramatically. How many Russians and Indians live on the dark side? Probably only a few. I live in a village of 150 houses on the darkside, I would guess at maybe 20 homes in total would have Indians as renters. They tend not to own as they are here for employment usually. They are no trouble & stick to themselves mainly. If that ratio is consistant on the darkside, that adds up to a lot of Indians over here. Never had a Russian live here, hope that continues for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 When I first came here 8 years ago... there was a strong population of Brits and Germans in the Nothern part of Pattaya. Because of the economy sliding downward, they don't seem to be retiring here anymore (besides, you can buy a condo just as cheap as in pattaya now days--with good infrastructure). Since I have arrived, the Russians have taken over as the majority. If it wasn't for them, then the economy here would be on the negative side. Then there are the cheap, cheap package tours for the Indians and Chinese that are now visiting Pattaya. The problem with this, (as a local Thai has told me) is that they do not spend money beyond their tour package. The girlie bars in Pattaya are NOT doing great business like they use to since there are less Westerners visiting the city. Russians bring their girlfriends or wife and prefer to buy their big bottle of Chang at the local Seven Eleven and not visit the go-go girlie bars. I think it is safe to say things have changed in pattaya..but there is still business going on here. Change of the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkleton Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 My wife owns a Beauty Salon in the KaoNoi/KaoTalo area. The number of Russian customers has increased ~200% over the last year. Mostly couples, always friendly, we never had the slightest problems with them. And...more important for my wife: They are NOT "cheap-charlies". They are always generous with a "tip" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckosDiving Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Wow Really !! Well I guess if you mean like the Russians that can't say Please or Thank You never tip are Rude and with no manners. Now Im not saying all of then only 98% are like this for !! Thai bar & restaurant owners on some beach's like Kamala have had signs up in front of their places saying Russians not aloud !! Then I guess I'll take Western Farangs any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 My wife owns a Beauty Salon in the KaoNoi/KaoTalo area. The number of Russian customers has increased ~200% over the last year. Indeed. They are absolutely everywhere, even if people who live nearby dont realise it. I'm not saying that the Russians are in any way inferior to other farangs (in fact looking at many of the Brits who live on the darkside, the Russians are probably several notches above them) but they are certainly very numerous. The shop signs just haven't caught up with the transformation, yet. It's like the Soi Buakow area; the number of Russian signs has more than doubled in the last year and will probably do the same again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted March 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2013 A nice Russian couple approached me last night to ask (in poor English) about how to go to the C. I then asked, you want to go to Big C? They meant the ocean. I've clearly been here too long. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Two nice russian girls was waiving at me and smiling. Only much later did i realize that they showed five fingers, as in 500 baht. I'm old and slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 People need to stop moaning. There's plenty of girls to go around for everyone jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awohalitsiktoli Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Pattayastok and Jomtienski are now Russian enclaves. Russians, unlike many previous tourists/expats, tend to not speak English and seem to keep to themselves. I have heard, from several restaurant owners, that they typically do not spend a lot of money, BUT, when they do decide to eat at some place they often do spend good money. There are far too many UK hoodlem types, many look like "skinheads" are are tatooed from top to bottom, looking for trouble. Personally, I do not like the demographic change that has taken place, especially over the past 10 years (along with the unsustainable pattern of growth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 In particular growth means its no longer good to live here, the day never comes now when there is no traffic jam, i dont go out from my house unless i have no other choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahooka Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 A melting pot ??? With one group mainly occupying bars....the other mainly does shopping and the third sitting on buses or being lead by a person with a flag.Pattaya is not an melting pot at all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie888888 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 People need to stop moaning. There's plenty of girls to go around for everyone jeez. ...and boys!!! There are quite a few moaning old queens amongst us, whether they admit it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolley Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I have said it before and I will say it again the Russians are still a big improvement on the lager louts who just a few years back used to patrol Pattaya in large numbers. The new reality is that Pattaya has changed to a mass market tourism destination with huge influxes of package tourists. The biggest problem in Pattaya is not the Russians but the constant large number of people pouring into a Pattaya where the infrastructure has not kept pace with the amount of people. Traffic congestion and pollution and overcrowding are the big negatives now and for me have made Pattaya undesirable to live in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 In particular growth means its no longer good to live here, the day never comes now when there is no traffic jam, i dont go out from my house unless i have no other choice Think you might be mistaken about the traffic jams. There is undoubtedly more traffic due to growth but it still flows quite well on occasions when the traffic lights fail. The biggest causes of the jams are the failure of the powers that be to operate the lights efficiently, the failure to stop people double parking and tour and baht buses stopping wherever the fancy takes them to pick up and drop off passengers. It might also help if they didn't block half the intersections in town to stop people turning right thus forcing them either to make dangerous (possibly illegal) u-turns or sit for an age burning fuel at the next over long stop light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stailmanki Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I have said it before and I will say it again the Russians are still a big improvement on the lager louts who just a few years back used to patrol Pattaya in large numbers. The new reality is that Pattaya has changed to a mass market tourism destination with huge influxes of package tourists. The biggest problem in Pattaya is not the Russians but the constant large number of people pouring into a Pattaya where the infrastructure has not kept pace with the amount of people. Traffic congestion and pollution and overcrowding are the big negatives now and for me have made Pattaya undesirable to live in. Agree 100% that Russians &c are an improvement on soccer holligans and larger louts. I hope their currency continues to decline in value against the Baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigurris Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 What about the smaller louts? Are they to be excluded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 In particular growth means its no longer good to live here, the day never comes now when there is no traffic jam, i dont go out from my house unless i have no other choice Think you might be mistaken about the traffic jams. There is undoubtedly more traffic due to growth but it still flows quite well on occasions when the traffic lights fail. The biggest causes of the jams are the failure of the powers that be to operate the lights efficiently, the failure to stop people double parking and tour and baht buses stopping wherever the fancy takes them to pick up and drop off passengers. It might also help if they didn't block half the intersections in town to stop people turning right thus forcing them either to make dangerous (possibly illegal) u-turns or sit for an age burning fuel at the next over long stop light. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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