At Least 25 Killed In Northern Nigeria Bus Station Bomb Attack

[News_Editor]

<p> At least 25 killed in northern Nigeria bus station bomb attack </p>< br />

<p>2013-03-19 09:19:26 GMT+7 (ICT) </p><br /> <p>KANO, NIGERIA (BNO NEWS) -- A bomb attack targeted a northern Nigerian bus station killing at least 25 people, local officials said Monday.<br /></p><br /><p>The incident occurred at around 4.30 p.m. local time on Monday at the busy New Road bus station located in Sabon Gari, Kano, where several people were getting ready to board a number of buses.<br /></p><br /><p>Authorities told the Nation that the bomb attack targeted a luxury bus with a capacity of 59 seated passengers as it was leaving the station.<br /></p><br /><p>While witnesses said a possible car bomb detonated the explosion, several blasts were reportedly heard during the attack.<br /></p><br /><p>Nigeria's national Emergency Management Agency said an exact death was unavailable, as emergency operations were ongoing, and those injured were being rushed to local hospitals. However, the media outlet reported at least 25 deaths.<br /></p><br /><p>The Boko Haram group has been blamed for most of the region's terrorist attacks. The group is seeking the imposition of an extremist stance of the Shariah law, which is a Muslim code of conduct. The group's name, in the local language of Hausa, roughly translates as 'Western religion is sacrilegious' or 'non-Islamic religion is a sin.'<br /></p> <p>

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[Steely Dan]

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/60-killed-in-kano-bus-park-bombing/

60 dead according to this report. The ethnic cleansing of Christians from Northern Nigeria continues a pace. Nobody in the west cares, or at least avert their gaze for fear of addressing the question as to whether this could happen where they live.

For Nigeria the best solution would be to split the Country in two, North and South and then let Boko Haram try their hand at governing and see how far they get.

[simple1]

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/60-killed-in-kano-bus-park-bombing/

60 dead according to this report. The ethnic cleansing of Christians from Northern Nigeria continues a pace. Nobody in the west cares, or at least avert their gaze for fear of addressing the question as to whether this could happen where they live.

For Nigeria the best solution would be to split the Country in two, North and South and then let Boko Haram try their hand at governing and see how far they get.

Nigeria is not being ignored US General David Rodriguez has recently been confirmed as the new AFRICOM commander for counter terrorism.

http://en.lemag.ma/General-David-Rodriguez-confirmed-as-new-AFRICOM-commander_a3565.html

[metisdead]

A post advocating genocide has been removed as well as a comment on moderation.

[Chicog]

The whole story is about the desired genocide of the infidel by this particular terrorist group, don't you think?

[Credo]

I am not sure if it's genocide of the infidels. If they convert, they live. But I maybe splitting hairs on a definition. No matter what, it's sad that so many people have to die needlessly.

[Chicog]

The principle behind Islam is that the afterlife is more important than this one.

Hence they attach less importance to it than most other cultures and religions.

It was a famous Bin Laden quote:

"We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the difference between us two."

[Steely Dan]

Nigeria shares one thing in common with Lebanon circa 1975, a demographic split of near equal numbers of Christians and Muslims. Lebanon was racked by 15 years of civil war, it's population was less than 3 million when the war started. Nigeria has a population of 170 million. The prospects of a civil war with such numbers is a horrific thought. Even a predominantly Muslim Country has a terrible fight ridding itself of Islamists, as Algeria found out, with an estimated 100,000 lives lost in so doing.

Furthermore much of Nigeria is urban, meaning drones would likely be ineffective in combating the militants. Personally I think it may be an idea to split the Country on religious grounds and let the Muslim population in the North eventually have to decide whether to live in the 7th century or rid itself of it's Islamist problem. It may seem callous, but given a host of unappealing alternatives I can't think of a better one.

Edited March 19, 2013 by Steely Dan

[Chicog]

Nigeria shares one thing in common with Lebanon circa 1975, a demographic split of near equal numbers of Christians and Muslims. Lebanon was racked by 15 years of civil war, it's population was less than 3 million when the war started. Nigeria has a population of 170 million. The prospects of a civil war with such numbers is a horrific thought. Even a predominantly Muslim Country has a terrible fight ridding itself of Islamists, as Algeria found out, with an estimated 100,000 lives lost in so doing.

Furthermore much of Nigeria is urban, meaning drones would likely be ineffective in combating the militants. Personally I think it may be an idea to split the Country on religious grounds and let the Muslim population in the North eventually have to decide whether to live in the 7th century or rid itself of it's Islamist problem. It may seem callous, but given a host of unappealing alternatives I can't think of a better one.

I disagree but apparently my opinion is unpalatable to some. I'm all for helping zealots achieve their beloved 72 imaginary virgins.

[NeverSure]

Nigeria shares one thing in common with Lebanon circa 1975, a demographic split of near equal numbers of Christians and Muslims. Lebanon was racked by 15 years of civil war, it's population was less than 3 million when the war started. Nigeria has a population of 170 million. The prospects of a civil war with such numbers is a horrific thought. Even a predominantly Muslim Country has a terrible fight ridding itself of Islamists, as Algeria found out, with an estimated 100,000 lives lost in so doing.

Furthermore much of Nigeria is urban, meaning drones would likely be ineffective in combating the militants. Personally I think it may be an idea to split the Country on religious grounds and let the Muslim population in the North eventually have to decide whether to live in the 7th century or rid itself of it's Islamist problem. It may seem callous, but given a host of unappealing alternatives I can't think of a better one.

With all due respect, splitting anything helps nothing. Off topic, but this will be a problem even in S. Thailand.

The extremists see a duty to kill all infidels in the world. They attack and kill in just about all nations. They attack and kill their own in their own country - see S. Thailand. See Iraq. Most terrorist killings are of other Muslims, even women and children.

I shudder to think what will happen to France which has allowed itself to become 20% Muslim through immigration policies and birth rates. I shudder to think what till happen to England which has allowed so many to immigrate. Those people live apart, don't integrate and breed like flies while the Brits are responsible about birth rates. Already the Muslims are demanding legal aberrations in Britain for their benefit.

They have a single goal and that is to convert the whole world to Islam. All infidels must convert or die. Christians won't convert because in their religion, that would doom them to Hell. Renouncing their Christ results in damnation.

This is going to be a long, deadly, drawn out issue unless the "infidels" get as tough and as willing to kill anywhere and everywhere as the cowardly terrorists are.

It's sad to say, but it is what it is.

[folium]

Nigeria shares one thing in common with Lebanon circa 1975, a demographic split of near equal numbers of Christians and Muslims. Lebanon was racked by 15 years of civil war, it's population was less than 3 million when the war started. Nigeria has a population of 170 million. The prospects of a civil war with such numbers is a horrific thought. Even a predominantly Muslim Country has a terrible fight ridding itself of Islamists, as Algeria found out, with an estimated 100,000 lives lost in so doing.

Furthermore much of Nigeria is urban, meaning drones would likely be ineffective in combating the militants. Personally I think it may be an idea to split the Country on religious grounds and let the Muslim population in the North eventually have to decide whether to live in the 7th century or rid itself of it's Islamist problem. It may seem callous, but given a host of unappealing alternatives I can't think of a better one.

With all due respect, splitting anything helps nothing. Off topic, but this will be a problem even in S. Thailand.

The extremists see a duty to kill all infidels in the world. They attack and kill in just about all nations. They attack and kill their own in their own country - see S. Thailand. See Iraq. Most terrorist killings are of other Muslims, even women and children.

I shudder to think what will happen to France which has allowed itself to become 20% Muslim through immigration policies and birth rates. I shudder to think what till happen to England which has allowed so many to immigrate. Those people live apart, don't integrate and breed like flies while the Brits are responsible about birth rates. Already the Muslims are demanding legal aberrations in Britain for their benefit.

They have a single goal and that is to convert the whole world to Islam. All infidels must convert or die. Christians won't convert because in their religion, that would doom them to Hell. Renouncing their Christ results in damnation.

This is going to be a long, deadly, drawn out issue unless the "infidels" get as tough and as willing to kill anywhere and everywhere as the cowardly terrorists are.

It's sad to say, but it is what it is.

Long on melodrama and exaggeration. Short on facts and statistics........Next?

[wellred]

Jezzz what is it with Muslims blowing stuff up. Think they should all be guven their own corner of the world, build a big wall around it and let them blow each other up to their hearts content.

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[simple1]

The whole story is about the desired genocide of the infidel by this particular terrorist group, don't you think?

The ideology of Boko Haram appears to be very similar to the Taliban. It's about removing any vestige of western influence/culture from Northern Nigeria and an extremist interpretation of Sharia Law, they also kill or threaten any Muslims who are critical of their activities.

As so many Western counter terrorism/military leaders have repeatedly stated it usually takes at least 15 years to suppress extremist insurgencies. The US/NATO have recently refocused their resources and efforts to combat Islamic extremism in Africa and the Nigerian government is working alongside as well as already engaging with military forces. From a US general:

"three violent extremist organizations are of particular concern in Africa: al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, or AQIM, active in northern and western Africa; Boko Haram in Nigeria; and al-Shabaab in Somalia"

A bit more info on the Nigerian government forces engagement with Boko Haram at

http://www.peacebuilding.no/Regions/Africa/Nigeria/Publications/Boko-Haram-and-the-resilience-of-militant-Islam-in-northern-Nigeria

Edited March 20, 2013 by simple1

[Steely Dan]

The whole story is about the desired genocide of the infidel by this particular terrorist group, don't you think?

The ideology of Boko Haram appears to be very similar to the Taliban. It's about removing any vestige of western influence/culture from Northern Nigeria and an extremist interpretation of Sharia Law, they also kill or threaten any Muslims who are critical of their activities.

As so many Western counter terrorism/military leaders have repeatedly stated it usually takes at least 15 years to suppress extremist insurgencies. The US/NATO have recently refocused their resources and efforts to combat Islamic extremism in Africa and the Nigerian government is working alongside as well as already engaging with military forces. From a US general:

"three violent extremist organizations are of particular concern in Africa: al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, or AQIM, active in northern and western Africa; Boko Haram in Nigeria; and al-Shabaab in Somalia"

A bit more info on the Nigerian government forces engagement with Boko Haram at

http://www.peacebuilding.no/Regions/Africa/Nigeria/Publications/Boko-Haram-and-the-resilience-of-militant-Islam-in-northern-Nigeria

Part of this is the western response to the situation has been confused and at times contradictory. The so called 'Liberation' of Libya has lead to one dead U.s ambassador, desecrated war graves, murdered Christians and Sufis, not to mention any dark skinned Africans found there. The icing on the cake being the whole region now awash with what was in Gaddafi's armory. The situation in Syria is no different with so called 'rebels also engaged in a campaign of murder and ethnic cleansing. I maintain separation is the best way, let the Islamists fight against the so called moderates, who we can help of course, with the proviso that moderate means moderate and not what we currently have in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Egypt.

P.S Sudan is the precedent and I suspect Kenya will follow on too.

[Bwanatickey]

The Christian South, have the money,money from oil and more. Does this money find it's way to the poor in Christian (Christian?) South NO. The North gets even less money than the poor in the south. North resents south,no surprises there.

Christian Nigerians living abroad,resented? Yes,why,if you don't know why you havent mixed with any.

[ZhouZhou]

For Nigeria the best solution would be to split the Country in two, North and South and then let Boko Haram try their hand at governing and see how far they get.

that would be the best solution. give the north independence from the south. north and south are actually two totally different kind of people, different ethnos, different culture.

[folium]

For Nigeria the best solution would be to split the Country in two, North and South and then let Boko Haram try their hand at governing and see how far they get.

that would be the best solution. give the north independence from the south. north and south are actually two totally different kind of people, different ethnos, different culture.

The arbitrary nature of Africa's boundaries largely drawn up by European nations in Berlin 1884-85 is an undoubted problem for Africa and links to many of the conflicts found there in the last 60 years. See excellent article below:

http://www.voxeu.org/article/long-run-effects-scramble-africa

However, simply waving a wand to redraw an entire continent's boundaries along ethnic lines would be riddled with issues and have the potential to create far more grief than it might seek to resolve. Secession attempts have bloody consequences, eg Biafra or Katanga, while even agreed-upon redrawing of boundaries can lead to short term bloodbaths and long term issues, see Cyprus, Yugoslavia, S. Sudan, Eritrea, N.ireland, and India.

While a seemingly neat solution, it's actual execution is not so simple.

[Steely Dan]

For Nigeria the best solution would be to split the Country in two, North and South and then let Boko Haram try their hand at governing and see how far they get.

that would be the best solution. give the north independence from the south. north and south are actually two totally different kind of people, different ethnos, different culture.

While a seemingly neat solution, it's actual execution is not so simple.

Try telling that to the South Sudanese.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/frontpagemag-com/video-islamic-slavery-in-sudan-alive-and-well/

[Chicog]

Oh grow up the lot of you. For politicians and the senior businessmen who hire them, it's about who can they replace one earner with another.

For the rest of us, it's about dealing with the consequences of their actions.

[folium]

For Nigeria the best solution would be to split the Country in two, North and South and then let Boko Haram try their hand at governing and see how far they get.

that would be the best solution. give the north independence from the south. north and south are actually two totally different kind of people, different ethnos, different culture.

While a seemingly neat solution, it's actual execution is not so simple.

Try telling that to the South Sudanese.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/frontpagemag-com/video-islamic-slavery-in-sudan-alive-and-well/

Thank you, S. Sudan underlines the perils of simple answers to complicated problems. Decades of civil war and outside pressure led to the first time ever that colonial boundaries in Africa were rewritten.

The creation of Eritrea was merely a return to the status quo before Mussolini's foray into Abyssinia. In many ways a dangerous precedent has been set, and "independence" for S.Sudan has left a myriad of unanswered questions such as the status of oil-rich Abyei, ethnic Dinka etc in the north, the minority ( in Sudanese terms) populations in areas such as South Kordofan.

While technically S.Sudan is an oil rich nation its revenue depends on transit via Sudan's pipeline and Red Sea port, until (if) a pipeline is built to Lamu. It is a "nation" almost totally unprepared for nationhood which is likely to struggle for years to come. If it does open the Pandora's box of ripping up colonial boundaries the consequences border on the unimaginable and will make Biafra look like the proverbial walk in the park....

Edited March 24, 2013 by folium

[Potosi]

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

That's the root of the problem.

[folium]

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

That's the root of the problem.

Hilarious...I trust this was a humorous post. The country that allegedly came last in your link re IQ happens to be Eq. Guinea. If IQ is supposed to drive national wealth or even vice versa, how come the World Bank ranks the very same country at 21st out of all countries in terms of GDP per capita (PPP), ahead of the UK, France, Italy and Japan?

[Potosi]

They have oil like Brunai, Bahrein, Quatar, and like them EqG is tiny and with a small population. Their GDP was $20,200 per capita in 2010, 64th in the world. PPP isn't useful, just says that a $ buys more in this country than in the West. I wasn't joking. If the stats are accurate and I see no reason why they shouldn't be, they can't do better.

[Steely Dan]

Folium wrote;-

Thank you, S. Sudan underlines the perils of simple answers to complicated problems. Decades of civil war and outside pressure led to the first time ever that colonial boundaries in Africa were rewritten.

The creation of Eritrea was merely a return to the status quo before Mussolini's foray into Abyssinia. In many ways a dangerous precedent has been set, and "independence" for S.Sudan has left a myriad of unanswered questions such as the status of oil-rich Abyei, ethnic Dinka etc in the north, the minority ( in Sudanese terms) populations in areas such as South Kordofan.

While technically S.Sudan is an oil rich nation its revenue depends on transit via Sudan's pipeline and Red Sea port, until (if) a pipeline is built to Lamu. It is a "nation" almost totally unprepared for nationhood which is likely to struggle for years to come. If it does open the Pandora's box of ripping up colonial boundaries the consequences border on the unimaginable and will make Biafra look like the proverbial walk in the park....

You are confusing cause and effect again. The colonial map making caused many problems akin to trying to mix oil and water on a continental scale. The results have included civil war, genocide, ethnic cleansing, slavery, despots flying around in Lear jets whilst their people starve.

As if colonialism were not bad enough it would seem western sociologists decided in leaving to conduct a giant lab experiment by introducing the concept of democracy. The naive expectation was that by having a vote on who leads a nation, and making a half-hearted attempt to monitor the vote that something resembling democracy would emerge from the primordial soup.

A case in point, the last Nigerian election was reported as being one of the fairest and most transparent ever, but many in the Muslim North refused to accept the vote and instead have resorted to ethnic cleansing. When one group is a clear majority, as with Sudan, things go no better, minority groups are persecuted in the extreme. The split in Sudan was a result of civil war, ethnic cleansing etc and not the cause of it. It will be followed I predict by similar events throughout Africa are a result not only of colonial map making, but also a misunderstanding of democracy. You make be interested in my thread in the 'out of the box' forum discrediting much of what sociologists have believed for decades.

The sad post script is that western governments were not satisfied to await the results of their multicultural lab experiment in Africa, but decided to conduct the same test at home in order to expunge the guilt for the colonial past of people who have been long dead, as this experiment proceeds I expect the results to be no better than either Nigeria or for that matter the Lebanon, time will tell.

Edited March 26, 2013 by Steely Dan