Maggie Thatcher Is Dead.

[onionluke]

I got to about 8 minutes, I will never get those eight minutes back, I've just taken my headphones off in state of disgust, I come from a working class background, I never envisaged a time when I would be able to view a video of people that were more useless, work shy, ignorant and so full of spite.... and the spite was their own creation.

A useless set of ........ (self deleted)..... typical socialists, the world owes them a living, guess what, no, it doesn't.

So another expert on the less fortunate gasses on about how the les fortunate should act , please gie us a kiss

[onionluke]

2001

Jings , that was ages ago .

Huh? Your responding to this as if I said it, which I didn't.

am only in cos , all others are snooty

[Neeranam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZj5cY18yFk

[Thakkar]

Are they going to privatize her funeral, put it to a tender to save taxpayer money?

T

[wooloomooloo]

Hmm, the legacy. I thought successive governments were there to put right any wrongs.

Labour had 13 years to right the wrongs, so what's this legacy exactly?

[Thakkar]

Sadly, her ideology lives on.

T

[cdnvic]

Removed some off topic videos

[Boon Mee]

Was there anything she couldn't do?

Margaret Thatcher Helped Invent Soft-Serve Ice Cream.

“As a chemist for food manufacturer J. Lyons and Co. in the 1940s,
Thatcher was part of the British research term that made soft-serve ice
possible, according to The Washington Post’s Caitlin Dewey, citing a 1983 New Scientist
article. Thatcher, and colleagues, invented a way add more air into the
ice cream so that it was less dense and used less ingredients, which
also made it more cost-effective. The new formula also made it possible
to push ice cream through a machine as soft-serve in the signature swirl
we’re familiar with today.”

RIP Lady Thatcher...

[Scott]

Posts which are nothing more than arguments with other posters have been deleted.

Please stay on topic and don't quote posts which are off-topic because your post will then be deleted.

[Thakkar]

So she's going to be buried? The Lady's not for burning??

T

[Boon Mee]

Baroness Thatcher died sitting up in "a top suite" at the Ritz Hotel in London

She was in bed, reading a book.

She'd been staying there since Christmas, where she'd moved after a

hospital stay. It was "one of her favourite places – and she was invited

by its owners the Barclay brothers to stay there for the foreseeable

future."

The article doesn't say what the book was. What book do you like to think it was?

[thenervoussurgeon]

Baroness Thatcher died sitting up in "a top suite" at the Ritz Hotel in London

She was in bed, reading a book.

She'd been staying there since Christmas, where she'd moved after a

hospital stay. It was "one of her favourite places – and she was invited

by its owners the Barclay brothers to stay there for the foreseeable

future."

The article doesn't say what the book was. What book do you like to think it was?

How to win friends and influence people?

Edited April 10, 2013 by thenervoussurgeon

[chuckd]

Baroness Thatcher died sitting up in "a top suite" at the Ritz Hotel in London

She was in bed, reading a book.

She'd been staying there since Christmas, where she'd moved after a

hospital stay. It was "one of her favourite places – and she was invited

by its owners the Barclay brothers to stay there for the foreseeable

future."

The article doesn't say what the book was. What book do you like to think it was?

Based on the tenor of the posts here, it has to be "War and Peace".

[nong38]

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with loathing Margaret Thatcher or any other person with political influence and power based upon perceived bad acts, and that doesn't change simply because they die. If anything, it becomes more compelling to commemorate those bad acts upon death as the only antidote against a society erecting a false and jingoistically self-serving history."

This piece from yesterdays Guardian (UK newspaper) sums up my feelings. It is necessary to remember how Thatcher divided the nation even further along class lines, made greed and accumulation of wealth a deity and further that it was acceptable to do this at others expense. If anyone needs a concrete example of the long lasting effects of her and her government, visit Easington in County Durham. The former coal mining district celebrated in the musical Billy Elliot remains impoverished, its very reason for existing having been callously removed and still today with one of the highest suicide rates of working age men. The women who keep these communities functioning at all are the real iron women.

I raised a glass to these people last night and I hope that it is this reality, her pro apartheid stance and her promotion of collusion with loyalist terrorists in Ireland that will be remembered around the world. She was also well known to be close friend of General Suharto. She was not a champion of aspirational working people, she blinded them with self interest and left a poisonous legacy for all but a very few, very wealthy individuals.

And a good friend of Pinochet!

And dont forget Chile is now a democracy, she deserves the credit for that and she gets the brickbats for todays financial crisis, we must also remeber that in the early 80's Chile was our only ally of sorts in South America, so little leeway is ok for the dictator, in ill health, confined to a house in Surrey and close to death.

[Boon Mee]

Baroness Thatcher died sitting up in "a top suite" at the Ritz Hotel in London

She was in bed, reading a book.

She'd been staying there since Christmas, where she'd moved after a

hospital stay. It was "one of her favourite places – and she was invited

by its owners the Barclay brothers to stay there for the foreseeable

future."

The article doesn't say what the book was. What book do you like to think it was?

How to win friends and influence people?

Heh...probably Obama's speeches and laughed herself to death!

More class from Lady Thatcher:

[nong38]

MAJIC;

You keep harping on about Thatcher's share of the vote (or to be precise, the Conservative's share of the vote) but are forgetting, assuming you ever knew, that the multi party nature of British politics means that since the war no party has ever received more than 50% of the votes cast.

Even in their landslide victory in 1945, Labour only managed 47.88%. Indeed, the Conservatives beat that in both 1955 and 1959 with 49.74% and 49.36% respectively.

(Source)

My point which obvious eluded you,was that a mandate from the Majority of the people should be over 50%.My point was Mrs Thatcher was not as popular a Prime Minister as some would lead us to believe.

Here are the figures from Wiki,which bares that out!

1979.....43.9%

1983.....42.4%

1987.....42.2%

That is not exactly the will of the people.

Very few parties ever get over 50%, America has 2 parties, straight fight, in the UK there are 3 and the odd bods. So it rare for the majority of the public +50% to be recorded and local elections are far worse.

[Boon Mee]

"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding
because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have
not a single political argument left."

-- Margaret Thatcher.

[nong38]

On my right hand are the supporters of Maggie Thatcher and on the left the detractors which goes to prove that you cant please all the people all the time, some could never pleased at all no matter what you did, some got on their bikes and found a new future, some just sat and cried, the state will take care of them, nothing much has changed there then from what I saw in the old colliey villages, some got on with life and changed with the changes. Change is not easy but you cant stop it, it happens.

The end line is this to those who thought Maggie was great ( overall, she did not get everything right) will not have their view changed. For those who took the opposite view that she was dreadful for the country, well you are not going to change that view either are you, no matter what is said, so we might as accept it. The funeral is next week, please show some respect, raise your glass and say good bye whatever your reason for doing so.

[chooka]

This is a story in the Australian media concerning the death of Maggie. Students from Melbourne University celebrating the death. Just shows how sick some people really can be.

Melbourne University student union Thatcher death celebration motion 'indecent'

"That Students’ Council recognise the horrific legacy of Margaret Thatcher and her neoliberal policies that destroyed the lives of millions, her violent crushing of the miners’ strike, her oppression of the Irish and murder of Bobby Sands and other hunger strikes, her unconditioned support for right-wing dictators like Pinochet and Suharto and her support for apartheid in South Africa, among many other things and celebrates her death unreservedly. Students’ Council also commits to organising a screening of the Ken Loach film ‘Which side are you on?’ to further celebrate this event."

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/breaking-news-blog/melbourne-university-student-union-thatcher-death-celebration-motion-indecent/20130410-2hkgg.html

[geriatrickid]

To those that celebrate the lady's demise, please keep in mind that she demonstrated the two greatest characteristics of the UK;

1. In the face of terrorism including a direct bombing attack against her, she stood firm, unflinching and with dignity against the terrorists. This was the quality that carried the Uk through its darkest times since WWII.

2. She stood up to a facist dictatorship in Argentina that sought to rob the Falkland people of their democratic rights and freedom. It was her resolve against International and US pressure to defend freedom,\ that allowed for the eventual overthrow of the Argentinian junta. The UK took a stand against armed oppression when it fought for the Falklands.

I do not agree with many of her policies, but she has been proven right on the EU and on the need to overhaul the welfare state. Neil Kinnock, Cargill and the miserable gang of greedy leftist goons was stopped by the lady that united the real working class of the UK.

RIP my dear Maggie.

[uptheos]

Maggie R I P

Just would like to say that this is one American that thought you were quite the lady and an excellent PM

RIP

Shows how much yanks know, she was an evil old hag, a friend of pinochet, murderer of the belgrano and destroyer of British society who's fiscal policies have led the UK to where it is today.

I'm not quite sure if I'm reading this right.

She did indeed befriend that devil Augusto Pinochet, but he wasn't anything to do with the Belgrano, that was General Leopaldo Galtieri

[mjj]

No PM or politician will go without criticism and probably no PM will have opinion as polarised as Maggie.

My thoughts on her are that she was a great leader at a time when Britain needed a strong hand. With hindsight it is easy to find mistakes and flaws in someone vision, but isn't the job of a government to constantly be fluid and move with the times for a better state.

Blaming Maggie for today's problems is ridiculous, we have had 23 years of change since she left power - more than enough time and governments to rectify any situation.

Personally, I think she will be remembered as a truly great woman of the 20th century. When she locked horns with other leaders you knew they were not in for an easy ride. Reagan, Gorbachev, et al respected her far more that any other leader has respected our PM's since.

Of course she made mistakes - find me someone that hasn't - and I don't agree with everything she did, but drink to celebrate someone's death in this instance is both vulgar and crass. People celebrating in the street - just go back in your homes and fill in the application form for the Jeremy Kyle Show.

Blair was far worse in my opinion but I doubt he will get so much venom upon his demise.

A very small point that left me yearning for a leader again like Maggie, was when Obama first met world leaders and Gordon Brown pushed other leaders out of the way desperately trying to shake his hand first. Really? Don't you have any pride?

[mjj]

I am very far from being a 'proud' Brit because I don't take pride or embarrassment from other people's achievements, but these parties actually leave me feeling embarrassed for my home country. I can't imagine how her children must feel seeing these images.

Totally disgusting behaviour.

[Thakkar]

When I first watched the news with the sound off, for a moment my heart stopped; I thought Meryl Streep had died. I can't tell you how relieved I was to realize that that wasn't the case.

T

Edited April 10, 2013 by Thakkar

[JimShortz]

Hoorah! The wicked witch is dead.

I find it hard to feel anything but joy at the death of someone who so callously destroyed whole communities and the lives of millions...

[Ace of Pop]

This isn't about Thatcher anymore. Its turned into Chang Vesters V Respectable Folk. .

[nontabury]

On my right hand are the supporters of Maggie Thatcher and on the left the detractors which goes to prove that you cant please all the people all the time, some could never pleased at all no matter what you did, some got on their bikes and found a new future, some just sat and cried, the state will take care of them, nothing much has changed there then from what I saw in the old colliey villages, some got on with life and changed with the changes. Change is not easy but you cant stop it, it happens.
The end line is this to those who thought Maggie was great ( overall, she did not get everything right) will not have their view changed. For those who took the opposite view that she was dreadful for the country, well you are not going to change that view either are you, no matter what is said, so we might as accept it. The funeral is next week, please show some respect, raise your glass and say good bye whatever your reason for doing so.

As someone who lived in the Dearne valley,the centre of the largest coal field in the UK,during the coal strike, I find it very strange to read comments from people from affluent parts of the country,who attack MT for her opposition to the power of the unions.The fact is Arthur Scargill Ordered the miners out on strike without allowing them to vote on the issue,those who did not wish to strike were threatened and intimidated,and by that I mean a Bloody good hiding and refusing to allow their children access to food donations.

So what happened to those miners who received large redundancy payments from the British tax payers?. Some started up small businesses,many of which were successful and the owners became responsible members of their communities, others spent their redundancy on purchasing foreign made cars and going on expensive foreign holidays,in other words,exporting jobs. Many of course just pissed it up, in the pub/miners clubs,and then spent the rest of their lives on benefits,content to complain how life had treated them so harshly.
As I've previously posted,MT made a big mistake in not implementing policies to encourage alternative industries, but at least she did get rid of the cause of the British illness.

Edited April 10, 2013 by Scott

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed. Again, you can respond to the OP for an on-going discussion of politics is simply going to get deleted.

[chiang mai]

This isn't about Thatcher anymore. Its turned into Chang Vesters V Respectable Folk. .

A term I read today sums it up quite well, "emotional incontinence".

[Neeranam]

More photos of street vermin like this here

Thatcher 'Death Parties' indeed.

I'd be taking apart in some of these celebrations if I were in the UK.What surprises me is the picture of some young girls - they weren't alive when Thatcher was in power.

Thatcher divided a country for sure - but to call one half, 'vermin' says a lot about you. Are the 'street vermin' in all the photos or just some? Even Thatcher, wouldn't degrade herself to call the Left 'street vermin'.

Edited April 10, 2013 by Neeranam