webfact Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Two foreigners dead in Phuket big bike smashes Tanyaluk SakootMr Loh's Kawasaki lies at the side of the road after the smash. Photo: Golf ThairathPHUKET: -- A 33-year-old Briton wearing only a pair of blue shorts died just after midnight this morning (April 22) when he overshot the bend near Wat Tai on Chao Fa East Rd and smashed into the guard rail.The man, who has not been named pending relatives being informed, was found lying on the ground surrounded by blood. Nearby was the 1,000cc Yamaha R1 superbike he had rented from a motorbike shop in Patong.Police blamed speed for the accident; they said the man was seen by officers just before crash, driving very fast through a checkpoint.Chalong Police Station Superintendent Pol Col Kitipas Dejintrasorn told The Phuket News, “Right now we are checking how it happened, and collecting CCTV footage from the accident site, along with witness accounts.”The Briton’s death was the second in two days involving a big bike. On Saturday, Malaysian Loh Zhi Wei, 29 crashed and died just north of the notorious Baan Kor Ane bend in the north of the island.At about 9.15am on Saturday Mr Loh was riding with friends from Malaysia, making their way home after Phuket Bike Week. Police believe he lost control then hit with roadside, falling and banging his head on the tarmac.Despite wearing a helmet, he died. His body was sent to Haad Yai on the Thai-Malaysia border for repatriation today.Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/two-foreigners-dead-in-phuket-big-bike-smashes-38836.php -- Phuket News 2013-04-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LivinginKata Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2013 Midnight - only wearing shorts. No helmet, drinking, and first time on big bike (from other news accounts). I shake my head. RIP. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rionoir Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2013 Despite wearing a helmet, he died. No kidding. Unless you buy your own helmet from an actual bike shop here you may as well be wearing a baseball cap. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Louisblackbird Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Midnight - only wearing shorts. No helmet, drinking, and first time on big bike (from other news accounts). I shake my head. RIP. Yes, and sadly, you'll be shaking you head again next week, if not before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless "It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here" - it's probably time they had proper pubilc transport here so people wouldn't have to hire them and ride, particularly whilst intoxicated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezy1801 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless Great point but I think something more than this is required but I very much doubt anything will change especially in our lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Thats not an R1 also! Its not even a Yamaha, the picture is of a Kawasaki z1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupdragon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Thats not an R1 also! Its not even a Yamaha, the picture is of a Kawasaki z1000 Mr Loh's Kawasaki lies at the side of the road after the smash. Photo: Golf Thairath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeungKen Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Alcohol, big fast motor-bike and lack of thought is a recipe for disaster. Condolences to family & friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomyumchai Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless ah yes, a motorcycle licence. "what colour this red dot? this yellow dot? this green dot?......ok! press brake pedal when red light come on.........ok! look at 2 sticks inside this box...........ok! now you go pay over there....you got big bike licence". "why thank you mr testing man, i will of course ride it sensibily". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygunther Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Despite wearing a helmet, he died. No kidding. Unless you buy your own helmet from an actual bike shop here you may as well be wearing a baseball cap. Yes, most of the helmets you can buy here aren't approved. I bought my helmet in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless As far as I am aware if you reside in Thailand for more than 3 months you need a Thai drivers licence for bike or car I have both, however the test is so simple it is almost a joke R.I.P to the two deceased persons although I fail to understand why someone would ride a 1000cc at midnight in just shorts I never go on my bike without my helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Explorer Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2013 Despite wearing a helmet, he died. No kidding. Unless you buy your own helmet from an actual bike shop here you may as well be wearing a baseball cap. FYI - If you look at the pic, the person on the right is wearing what is a standard helmet for Malaysian big bike riders. No one wears a THB 200 or even THB 1000 helmet on Z1000 bike in Malaysia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicstuff Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless Great point but I think something more than this is required but I very much doubt anything will change especially in our lifetime. an international bike licence should be a must for foriegners riding over here, but riding without a helmet, riding fast etc I know one should not do it, but that is also the fun of riding over here , People like the challange and risk. Shouldnt do it definately, should not recommend it, but people will always want to do it anyway; on their heads be it. I have always enjoyed taking those crazy risks; not so much now I'm a little older. as long as you can ride ok and ride within your capability its only a little more chance of dying than climbing a tall ladder drunk,kite suffing nr rocks. or.driving a car blind folded.What never done that??? ps I did see a mention about drink driving where did that come from ? quite probable but a big assumtion he might just have nipped out for some condoms., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brfsa2 Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) To ride a 1000cc bike at high speed and at night you will need several years of experience on 250-650cc bikes... I often hear friends saying they wanna buy a 1000cc bike while they are still riding a 110cc scooter or an automatic car I just shake my head. LOL you need not only a good helmet, but good clothing protection as well, a nice shoes, jacket, elbow and shoulder pads, gloves, and ideally back mount pad. besides that Thai roads are so unpredictable, you can hit a pot and jackpot! you're dead. Edited April 22, 2013 by brfsa2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless As far as I am aware if you reside in Thailand for more than 3 months you need a Thai drivers licence for bike or car I have both, however the test is so simple it is almost a joke R.I.P to the two deceased persons although I fail to understand why someone would ride a 1000cc at midnight in just shorts I never go on my bike without my helmet Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless ah yes, a motorcycle licence. "what colour this red dot? this yellow dot? this green dot?......ok! press brake pedal when red light come on.........ok! look at 2 sticks inside this box...........ok! now you go pay over there....you got big bike licence". "why thank you mr testing man, i will of course ride it sensibily". RIP What a tragedy for them and their families. I have both car and bike licence and it was very easy to buy but only because I had full UK driving licence. If they made having a licence compulsory BEFORE a bike is allowed to be hired that may help. If a tourist has no "home" licence he should not get a local one without a full test and then be restricted to a less powerful machine. Even then the test is somewhat of a joke but it would waste at least a day of the holiday and that may be enough to put someone off hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galoubet Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Yes, most of the helmets you can buy here aren't approved. I bought my helmet in Sweden. Quite right! I bring my BMW helmet out with me each time I come. Plus my armoured jacket, trousers, boots and gloves. Won't stop me getting killed in a head-on crash with a truck but might help in a more minor accident. As for riding in shorts (or a t-shirt), quite crazy. Just fall off at low speed and you can get serious skin injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 '''the man was seen by officers just before crash, driving very fast through a checkpoint.''' If he did not have any drugs on him, that would be a very high price for trying to save 300 bahts. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 To ride a 1000cc bike at high speed and at night you will need several years of experience on 250-650cc bikes... I often hear friends saying they wanna buy a 1000cc bike while they are still riding a 110cc scooter or an automatic car I just shake my head. LOL you need not only a good helmet, but good clothing protection as well, a nice shoes, jacket, elbow and shoulder pads, gloves, and ideally back mount pad. besides that Thai roads are so unpredictable, you can hit a pot and jackpot! you're dead. When riding in the UK I always used the full gear clothing wise. However, when travelling through France to Switzerland and Germany, it was so hot that the gloves filled with sweat. Once you got em off, and that was not easy, it was near impossible to put em back on. Same with the jacket, trousers and boots. I would hate to try fully armoured clothing in this climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phronesis Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Can someone please explain to me why this story is even newsworthy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless It is compulsory to have a bike licence here. They need to fine bike rental shops that rent them without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Usual RIP before any comment regarding motor accidents in Thailand, before we jump on our bikes or get in our cars we know the state of the Thai roads and the standard of Thai driving so by driving in Thailand we have to accept responsibility for our own actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phronesis Posted April 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2013 I pulled up alongside some white trash aussie idiot at the lights at Kamala last week. He was on a rented duc. He had thongs, a wife basher, fake billabongs shorts and lots of tatts. He saw my bike and put on a big fist full of revs and took off before the change to green...the duc hit the sand that often lies there on that stretch and he fish tailed out of control and barely missed an oncoming pick up by inches. I followed him on to the sharp right hander up past Fantasea and there he did a sharp right hand u Turn in front of me with no blinker. He almost dropped the bike just trying to complete a low speed u turn. I screamed "GO HOME YOU F-----G IMBECILE"... Just one example....don't start me on the packs North African idiots plying that section of the road on the big rented scooters... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom21 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Midnight - only wearing shorts. No helmet, drinking, and first time on big bike (from other news accounts). I shake my head. RIP. also the last time RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfinglife Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Despite wearing a helmet, he died. No kidding. Unless you buy your own helmet from an actual bike shop here you may as well be wearing a baseball cap. I wouldn't buy a helmet in Thailand. Most of them are just for decoration unless you buy from a proper bike gear shop in BKK. I buy my helmet in New Zealand and at least know that it has been certified and should do its job (no intention to test this theory though.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me313 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) The accidents I have had in Phuket have always been due to the fine sand and grit and dirt that layer the roads so they are slick and dangerous. The quality of the roads is very dangerous. People unaccustomed to driving here can't see the potholes and layers of dirt in the roads and it's very easy to crash when you are driving at night, having had some alcohol or no alcohol. The lighting is bad in most areas. As for a better helmet, it's possible this man broke his neck, in that case a better helmet would not have safeguarded him from that type of deadly injury. Edited April 22, 2013 by me313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchio Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ride in peace I've seen so many inexperienced biker Deaths It's time they made it compulsory to have a bike licence here I've been riding 40 years And even I get caught out now and again God Bless ah yes, a motorcycle licence. "what colour this red dot? this yellow dot? this green dot?......ok! press brake pedal when red light come on.........ok! look at 2 sticks inside this box...........ok! now you go pay over there....you got big bike licence". "why thank you mr testing man, i will of course ride it sensibily". Thats not quite my experience of the bike test in Phuket. Rules of the road video has to be watched (suffered) followed by multiple choice interactive exam, followed by bike practical. All up, it is of course a load of <deleted>, but if either test was failed, no license was issued.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Midnight - only wearing shorts. No helmet, drinking, and first time on big bike (from other news accounts). I shake my head. RIP. My only surprise is that there aren't more such amongst tourists stupid enough to ride without any gear, despite not having any riding experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galoubet Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 When riding in the UK I always used the full gear clothing wise. However, when travelling through France to Switzerland and Germany, it was so hot that the gloves filled with sweat. Once you got em off, and that was not easy, it was near impossible to put em back on. Same with the jacket, trousers and boots. I would hate to try fully armoured clothing in this climate. Ah, but my BMW gear is "Airflow", everything - jacket, trousers, gloves and even my boots. (Other manufacturers do them too I believe) They have excellent ventilation but still maintain strength and abrasion resistance. Hopeless in the wet of course, but I never ride in the rain if I can help it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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