Applying For Uk Settlement Visa For Thai Wife

[checkoutcomplete]

Good evening,

Next week I'm applying do my wife's settlement visa.

These are the documents I've included:

1. Wife's passport copies

2. Wife's birth certificate (translated in English)

3. Wife's ID card copy and bank statement

4. Wife's house book copy

5. Marriage certificate

6. TB certificate

7. English test pass certificate

8. Letter of invitation to stay in my family home (stayed there together with our child for 3 6 month trips)

9. Copy father and mothers passport and birth certificate

10. Mum and dads marriage certificate

11. Letter of mortgage for house

12. Council tax bill

13. Utility bill

14. Photos and description of house we are going to live in

15. Copy of my passport

16. My full length birth certificate

17. Copy of my national insurance and driving licence

18. Contract of employment

19. 6 months wage slips and 6 months bank statements

20. Letter of confirmation of employment

21. P60

22. Our child's thai and British passport copy

23. Our child's birth certificate translated

24. Our child's English bank account statement

25. Birthday cards few bits etc etc

Do I have to include a SU07 sponsorship form?

I am in full time employment and meet the financial requirements. My query is I am being paid whilst I am overseas and will continue to do so whilst the visa is being applied. What other information do I have to provide?

Would it help including a letter for our sons school admission where he will start this September.

Thank you in advance for reading.

Please let me know if this is ok and if I have missed anything important out

Thanks again

[Tony M]

It may depend on what your contract of employment says.

You haven't said if you meet the financial requirement.

You don't need a form SU07.

This may be appropriate to your situation :

ANNEX FM SECTION FM 1.7 Financial Requirement (April 2013) states:

5.5 Salaried and Non salaried employment-general requirements

5.5.4 Where the applicant's partner (and /or the applicant if they are in the UK with the permission to work) is in salaried or non salaried-employment, this may include work overseas, subject to the couple meeting the requirement that they intend to live together permanently in the UK.

5.5.5 Where the applicant's partner is working overseas and transfers with the same employer to a job in UK, that employment maybe used to meet both the overseas employment income and the confirmed job offer in the UK under Category A and Category B

[checkoutcomplete]

Thank you for quick reply.

I am employed my father. I worked in the uk for between October until I returned lat month. I am emotes by the company and have a monthly salary which continues until I return back to th UK where I will return to work on te same income.

My salary meets the requirement, I understand as I am only sponsoring my wife te requirement is £18,600. My annual income is over this amount.

I am now on a sabbatical or leave to return how you look at it I don't know.

I have a letter from the company stating date of employment should this be addressed to me or to the embassy?

Our son starts school in September. Is there anyway with special circumstances it can be sped up as I will not take our son away from his mother.

Thanks again

[Tony M]

I'm not sure I understand all of your reply. What does "I am emotes by the company" mean ?

I don't really want to comment on whether you meet the financial requirement or not as I don't know the detail. Presumably you gave some detail of your employment when your wife applied for her visit visas, and your current application will have to confirm those details.

Application decisions are taking around 3 months, so your wife should have a decision by August, which will give you time to get your son into school if the visa is issued for your wife.

The letter from your company can be addressed to you or the Embassy, as long as it gives the required detail.

You didn't mention the Appendix ( vaf4a2) that must be submitted along with the application itself.

[checkoutcomplete]

Sorry.

I am employed by my fathers company. My income will be paid to me every month, whilst I am in Thailand and will return to my employment when back in the UK.

[checkoutcomplete]

Thank you for pointing that out. I will be going through the form tomorrow can't say I'm looking forward to it.

Previously I was self employed. Which is why I had a problem last year with a settlement visa, which was refused, but we were able to obtain a tourist visa 2 weeks later after refusal.

I am now have a permanent job, which I will return to when visa application is completed. I still receive my income every month.

As my son has a British passport, I am right in thinking as I am not sponsoring my son I do not need to have the extra income. As I am only sponsoring my wife my income has to be £18,600+.

Is this correct?

[Rajab Al Zarahni]

I'm not sure I understand all of your reply. What does "I am emotes by the company" mean ?

I don't really want to comment on whether you meet the financial requirement or not as I don't know the detail. Presumably you gave some detail of your employment when your wife applied for her visit visas, and your current application will have to confirm those details.

Application decisions are taking around 3 months, so your wife should have a decision by August, which will give you time to get your son into school if the visa is issued for your wife.

The letter from your company can be addressed to you or the Embassy, as long as it gives the required detail.

You didn't mention the Appendix ( vaf4a2) that must be submitted along with the application itself.

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

[checkoutcomplete]

Just over a month is very quick.

ReTony: if you have any more advice for me it would be much appreciated.

[wooloomooloo]

Previously I was self employed. Which is why I had a problem last year with a settlement visa, which was refused, but we were able to obtain a tourist visa 2 weeks later after refusal.

Why was your wife's settlement visa application refused last year? This is entirely relevant to your wife's forthcoming application.

[theoldgit]

Previously I was self employed. Which is why I had a problem last year with a settlement visa, which was refused, but we were able to obtain a tourist visa 2 weeks later after refusal.

Why was your wife's settlement visa application refused last year? This is entirely relevant to your wife's forthcoming application.

That's a good point, settetlement and tourist visas have different requirements, maybe you can let us know the reason your wifes settlement visa was previously refused.

[Tony M]

I'm not sure I understand all of your reply. What does "I am emotes by the company" mean ?

I don't really want to comment on whether you meet the financial requirement or not as I don't know the detail. Presumably you gave some detail of your employment when your wife applied for her visit visas, and your current application will have to confirm those details.

Application decisions are taking around 3 months, so your wife should have a decision by August, which will give you time to get your son into school if the visa is issued for your wife.

The letter from your company can be addressed to you or the Embassy, as long as it gives the required detail.

You didn't mention the Appendix ( vaf4a2) that must be submitted along with the application itself.

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

You submitted a settlement application on 21st March, and have received the decision ?

[checkoutcomplete]

Can we not change the subject please.

It was refused due to my self employment, it's too long to explain.

I have moved on.

Has anybody got any more advice?

[checkoutcomplete]

Simply my being un able to produce a p60 and proof that I was self employed.

I used to sell on ebay from September to December 21st and also opened a shop. I would sell toys in the Christmas run in. Did very well as you could imagine.

They said this not was suffice for a settlement visa although I had proved my income with Paypal statements and bank statements.

I have sponsored my wife 3 times for a tourist visa, using the same information.

I now have permanent employment. Earn over the required income for the visa.

How would the previous affect me.

As I explained before, 2 weeks after visa settlement refusal I received a tourist visa for my wife. Thanks to help and advice from a well known agent.

[Tony M]

Simply my being un able to produce a p60 and proof that I was self employed. I used to sell on ebay from September to December 21st and also opened a shop. I would sell toys in the Christmas run in. Did very well as you could imagine. They said this not was suffice for a settlement visa although I had proved my income with Paypal statements and bank statements. I have sponsored my wife 3 times for a tourist visa, using the same information. I now have permanent employment. Earn over the required income for the visa. How would the previous affect me. As I explained before, 2 weeks after visa settlement refusal I received a tourist visa for my wife. Thanks to help and advice from a well known agent.

You could go back to "the well known agent" and ask him all the questions you are asking us.

[MunterHunter]

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

If you dont mind, can you give us a summary of what information you provided? I'm about to apply with my wife for a settlement visa, so trying t oget a deeper understanding of the supporting documents.

[checkoutcomplete]

Simply my being un able to produce a p60 and proof that I was self employed. I used to sell on ebay from September to December 21st and also opened a shop. I would sell toys in the Christmas run in. Did very well as you could imagine. They said this not was suffice for a settlement visa although I had proved my income with Paypal statements and bank statements. I have sponsored my wife 3 times for a tourist visa, using the same information. I now have permanent employment. Earn over the required income for the visa. How would the previous affect me. As I explained before, 2 weeks after visa settlement refusal I received a tourist visa for my wife. Thanks to help and advice from a well known agent.

You could go back to "the well known agent" and ask him all the questions you are asking us.

I've tried and been rudely push along.

So now I have turned to the forum for help. As many do and carry on to do so.

I don't seem to have my answers questioned.

[checkoutcomplete]

Please if any one has any more advice and from looking at my supporting documents think there is anything missing then it would be much appreciated for the answer.

[7by7]

checkoutcomplete, on 26 Apr 2013 - 08:06, said:

I don't seem to have my answers questioned.

TonyM has answered your questions as best he can from the information you have provided.

That you have ignored his requests for further information so that he can provide more detailed answers is not his fault!

I will say that from the list of documents in your OP (difficult to follow, BTW; ever heard of paragraphs?) the following are not required:

9, 10, 12, 13, 16, 17, 27, 23, 24.

Why, for example, do you think that your parents passports, birth and marriage certificates are needed?

What is definitely required are all the documents specified in the part of Annex FM Section FM 1.7; relevant to how you will be meeting the financial requirement.

[Rajab Al Zarahni]

I'm not sure I understand all of your reply. What does "I am emotes by the company" mean ?

I don't really want to comment on whether you meet the financial requirement or not as I don't know the detail. Presumably you gave some detail of your employment when your wife applied for her visit visas, and your current application will have to confirm those details.

Application decisions are taking around 3 months, so your wife should have a decision by August, which will give you time to get your son into school if the visa is issued for your wife.

The letter from your company can be addressed to you or the Embassy, as long as it gives the required detail.

You didn't mention the Appendix ( vaf4a2) that must be submitted along with the application itself.

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

You submitted a settlement application on 21st March, and have received the decision ?

Yes it was an application for a settlement visa a and I received a favorable outcome in the mail on the 24.04.2013.

[MunterHunter]

Yes it was an application for a settlement visa a and I received a favorable outcome in the mail on the 24.04.2013.

If you are able to remember, i would be interested in the list of documents you provided so i can ensure i get the same/right documents ready for when we apply

[Tony M]

I'm not sure I understand all of your reply. What does "I am emotes by the company" mean ?

I don't really want to comment on whether you meet the financial requirement or not as I don't know the detail. Presumably you gave some detail of your employment when your wife applied for her visit visas, and your current application will have to confirm those details.

Application decisions are taking around 3 months, so your wife should have a decision by August, which will give you time to get your son into school if the visa is issued for your wife.

The letter from your company can be addressed to you or the Embassy, as long as it gives the required detail.

You didn't mention the Appendix ( vaf4a2) that must be submitted along with the application itself.

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

You submitted a settlement application on 21st March, and have received the decision ?

Yes it was an application for a settlement visa a and I received a favorable outcome in the mail on the 24.04.2013.

I have to say that I find that unlikely. That would be 21 working days. I know of applications made earlier that have not yet received an outcome. Please post evidence ( the application receipt, and a copy of the visa ( with personal details deleted ).

Edited April 26, 2013 by Tony M

[Rajab Al Zarahni]

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

If you dont mind, can you give us a summary of what information you provided? I'm about to apply with my wife for a settlement visa, so trying t oget a deeper understanding of the supporting documents.

It isn't simply a question of which supporting documents you should submit that will determine whether you get the visa. The guidance document says they are looking for evidence of cohabitation so try to find documents sent to your home address in your joint names,within the two years immediately preceding the application. In our case we had almost nothing in joint names as we prefer to have separate bank accounts etc. My instinct is that they don't like documents that have originated from a non government source so for example a Council tax letter would be regarded as better evidence than a membership reminder from the gym club. My advice would be to avoid the submission of electronically generated information if at all possible. Immigration officials,lawyers, judges and the like don't like information that has been originated from such sources because it is easier to manipulate by techniques such as cutting and pasting.

Follow the form and the guidance notes to the letter and check it thoroughly a couple of times before submission. I submitted a covering letter with explanatory notes on each item where additionally explanation was needed. There is a fine balance to be struck between making a carefully presented and thorough application and the submission of a voluminous application but with a number of flaws. Take care with the little things such as ensuring the photographs meet with the guidance requirements Your goal is to ensure that there is no need for them to write back to you. The process of writing back to you or writing to other agencies relevant to the evidence is the most likely cause of a protracted process. The form is 32 pages long and I found it to be a wearisome and demanding process to get it right. Read the guidance notes of SET(M) pages 24-27 with the utmost care. I am fortunate in having had a lot of experience of this kind of work so for me it was a lot easier. If you think you are out of your depth you probably are! You can often get help from retired volunteers at for example the CAB.

[Tony M]

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

If you dont mind, can you give us a summary of what information you provided? I'm about to apply with my wife for a settlement visa, so trying t oget a deeper understanding of the supporting documents.

It isn't simply a question of which supporting documents you should submit that will determine whether you get the visa. The guidance document says they are looking for evidence of cohabitation so try to find documents sent to your home address in your joint names,within the two years immediately preceding the application. In our case we had almost nothing in joint names as we prefer to have separate bank accounts etc. My instinct is that they don't like documents that have originated from a non government source so for example a Council tax letter would be regarded as better evidence than a membership reminder from the gym club. My advice would be to avoid the submission of electronically generated information if at all possible. Immigration officials,lawyers, judges and the like don't like information that has been originated from such sources because it is easier to manipulate by techniques such as cutting and pasting.

Follow the form and the guidance notes to the letter and check it thoroughly a couple of times before submission. I submitted a covering letter with explanatory notes on each item where additionally explanation was needed. There is a fine balance to be struck between making a carefully presented and thorough application and the submission of a voluminous application but with a number of flaws. Take care with the little things such as ensuring the photographs meet with the guidance requirements Your goal is to ensure that there is no need for them to write back to you. The process of writing back to you or writing to other agencies relevant to the evidence is the most likely cause of a protracted process. The form is 32 pages long and I found it to be a wearisome and demanding process to get it right. Read the guidance notes of SET(M) pages 24-27 with the utmost care. I am fortunate in having had a lot of experience of this kind of work so for me it was a lot easier. If you think you are out of your depth you probably are! You can often get help from retired volunteers at for example the CAB.

You are talking about applications for Leave to Remain in the UK. This post is about visa applications ! No wonder we are confused !

If an OP is seeking guidance on a visa application you will confuse him if you start giving information about extensions of stay in the UK.

[MunterHunter]

Ahh yes, i am talking about initial application, not renewal... never mind, thanks for taking the time to write the reply however

[Rajab Al Zarahni]

Tony M:

I make it 34 days and there is is no requirement on me to prove that I am telling the truth. Furthermore, I invite you to agree that your request for proof is insulting. All my postings are made in the utmost good faith. Please view my profile.Have you considered the possibility that the quick turn around might have been because I made a competent job of the application!

[Rajab Al Zarahni]

I submitted an application on the 21.03.2013 and received a favorable outcome on the 24.04.2013.

If you dont mind, can you give us a summary of what information you provided? I'm about to apply with my wife for a settlement visa, so trying t oget a deeper understanding of the supporting documents.

It isn't simply a question of which supporting documents you should submit that will determine whether you get the visa. The guidance document says they are looking for evidence of cohabitation so try to find documents sent to your home address in your joint names,within the two years immediately preceding the application. In our case we had almost nothing in joint names as we prefer to have separate bank accounts etc. My instinct is that they don't like documents that have originated from a non government source so for example a Council tax letter would be regarded as better evidence than a membership reminder from the gym club. My advice would be to avoid the submission of electronically generated information if at all possible. Immigration officials,lawyers, judges and the like don't like information that has been originated from such sources because it is easier to manipulate by techniques such as cutting and pasting.

Follow the form and the guidance notes to the letter and check it thoroughly a couple of times before submission. I submitted a covering letter with explanatory notes on each item where additionally explanation was needed. There is a fine balance to be struck between making a carefully presented and thorough application and the submission of a voluminous application but with a number of flaws. Take care with the little things such as ensuring the photographs meet with the guidance requirements Your goal is to ensure that there is no need for them to write back to you. The process of writing back to you or writing to other agencies relevant to the evidence is the most likely cause of a protracted process. The form is 32 pages long and I found it to be a wearisome and demanding process to get it right. Read the guidance notes of SET(M) pages 24-27 with the utmost care. I am fortunate in having had a lot of experience of this kind of work so for me it was a lot easier. If you think you are out of your depth you probably are! You can often get help from retired volunteers at for example the CAB.

You are talking about applications for Leave to Remain in the UK. This post is about visa applications ! No wonder we are confused !

If an OP is seeking guidance on a visa application you will confuse him if you start giving information about extensions of stay in the UK.

I think you are the one who is confused. I am talking about a settlement visa and this is the subject of the original posting.

[7by7]

Form SET(M), the one you say you completed, is for ILR, which is made in the UK.

The OP is asking about an initial settlement visa, which is made outside the UK; in his wife's case Thailand.

Two completely different things with different processing times.

I think it is you who is confused; maybe excusable as when the UKBA say 'settlement' they mean ILR.

BTW, the UKBA wont accept evidence on electronic media, for any type of application, due to the possibility of such media containing viruses or similar which could corrupt their systems.

Edited April 26, 2013 by 7by7

[Rajab Al Zarahni]

Form SET(M), the one you say you completed, is for ILR, which is made in the UK.

The OP is asking about an initial settlement visa, which is made outside the UK; in his wife's case Thailand.

Two completely different things with different processing times.

I think it is you who is confused; maybe excusable as when the UKBA say 'settlement' they mean ILR.

BTW, the UKBA wont accept evidence on electronic media, for any type of application, due to the possibility of such media containing viruses or similar which could corrupt their systems.

I think you are right that we are not talking about the same thing. However is no such thing as an " initial settlement visa" and using the term "settlement" in this context creates a confusion. The UKBA is the creator of the process so "settlement" is what they say it is and anyone using the word "settlement" outside the context of their usage creates the possibility of a misunderstanding. In any event, my thanks to you for getting the train back on the rails.

BTW I agree with your observation on electronic data however my reference to electronic data was a reference to print outs of electronic data

Edited April 26, 2013 by Rajab Al Zarahni

[7by7]

It can be confusing.

Every forum I have ever been associated with over the last 10 years has always referred to a 'settlement visa' when what they mean is the initial visa for entry to the UK with a view to settling; which I'm sure you'll agree is a bit of a mouthful!

Also often used are the terms spouse visa, fiance visa, unmarried partners visa etc., which are all unofficial terms and not used by the UKBA.

Whichever term is used, what the poster actually means can usually be found by reading the OP; as in this topic.

[checkoutcomplete]

Is it possible to keep on track in a forum topic.

I don't know what more information you want from me.

We have been together nearly 6 years, we have a 3 year old son together. My wife has been to the uk for 3 stints of 6 months. We haven't spent a day apart since our son was born.

I am an accountant, I qualified last year, I work for my fathers company. I earn over the required income for my wife's visa.

Don't know what more you want to know.