13 Thais Charged For Cheating Marina Bay Sands Casino In $1.2M Baccarat Scam

[george]

13 Thais charged for cheating Marina Bay Sands casino

SINGAPORE: -- Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

The 14 of them, aged between 23 and 50 years old, are said to have colluded to win cash chips worth $1.2 million while playing baccarat at the casino on May 7 from 2.50am to 6am. They apparently devised a fraudulent scheme in which they knew the sequence of the cards in advance.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Full story: http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/6-more-thais-charged-cheating-mbs-casino-baccarat-scam-20130513

Source: Straits Times 2013-05-13

[stoneyboy]

It's ok for casinos to know the outcome but not the players,good luck to them I say.

[jbrain]

Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Where at once 8 foreigners come from ?

Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story.

[bigbamboo]

Haha!........... Ocean's 13!

Or would that be Big C's 13 here?

[Bobobirdiebuddy]

They may feel the lash of the cane. Not a very hi-so ending to their holiday.

[JetsetBkk]

Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Where at once 8 foreigners come from ?

Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story.

They are 8 foreigners because this is a Singaporean website story.

Duh!

[candypants]

Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Where at once 8 foreigners come from ?

Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story.

you are aware that this happened in singapore and your anti-thai rhetoric is misplaced, right?

[Stradavarius37]

It's ok for casinos to know the outcome but not the players,good luck to them I say.

The outcome is always the same, the house always wins, in the end. Anyone who doesn't know this is a fool.

[IsaanUSA]

Ha, cool. I don't know anything about that specific game (just Burt), but surely one of the 14 must have been a dealer? I'm not buying the "they knew the order of the cards" story. How could you order the cards without the pit boss knowing anything or the cameras seeing it?

1.3 Mill, wow. They got greedy. Should have stopped earlier, although I'm sure the casino would still have figured it out.

[Stradavarius37]

Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Where at once 8 foreigners come from ?

Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story.

You think about it a little more spanky...don't strain yourself

[jbrain]

Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Where at once 8 foreigners come from ?

Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story.

you are aware that this happened in singapore and your anti-thai rhetoric is misplaced, right?

You're aware that this is the Thailand news forum, opposed to the world news forum, right ?

[Satcommlee]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

[Boater]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino

[Boater]

Ha, cool. I don't know anything about that specific game (just Burt), but surely one of the 14 must have been a dealer? I'm not buying the "they knew the order of the cards" story. How could you order the cards without the pit boss knowing anything or the cameras seeing it?

1.3 Mill, wow. They got greedy. Should have stopped earlier, although I'm sure the casino would still have figured it out.

there was another similar story in the UK last week, where they refused to pay out a guy 7 million,

it turned out he could read the cards as on the back they had small prints not seen to the naked eye which had details of the card

maybe part of the same scam? , but then the question of how the cards got into the place?,.... they are not reviling much

Gambler won £7.8m by 'reading' the back of cards: How tiny flaw in deck design could have given poker star the upper hand

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323122/Phil-Ivey-Gambler-won-7-8m-reading-cards.html#ixzz2TC4gc5hr

Edited May 13, 2013 by Boater

[Satcommlee]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino

That's interesting, I was turned away and there was clearly a sign up... but it may had been something to do with the big conference/expo I was attending there!

[IsaanUSA]

maybe part of the same scam? , but then the question of how the cards got into the place?,.... they are not reviling much

Sadly, they never will. I would assume one of the people arrested was a dealer and possibly another inside person or two.

[Boater]

They apparently devised a fraudulent scheme in which they knew the sequence of the cards in advance.

unless they actually tampered with the cards, in theory they have done nothing wrong !, well apart from beat the casino

[IsaanUSA]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino

That's interesting, I was turned away and there was clearly a sign up... but it may had been something to do with the big conference/expo I was attending there!

https://www.marinabaysands.com/Singapore-Casino/Casino-Entry-Levy/FAQs/

[Satcommlee]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

any foreigner can enter Marina Sands Casino

That's interesting, I was turned away and there was clearly a sign up... but it may had been something to do with the big conference/expo I was attending there!

https://www.marinabaysands.com/Singapore-Casino/Casino-Entry-Levy/FAQs/

Is there more than one casino? I'd like to think it was because I looked too young but I was wearing a suit and see no reason why I should have been refused. But there were literally thousands of us attending this expo all wandering around with our badges.. it may be a case of they didn't want the low spenders in there, which could be justified as I certainly wasn't going to blow much more than 100 SGD and wanted to visit more out of intrigue than determination.

[maanoi]

Ha, cool.  I don't know anything about that specific game (just Burt), but surely one of the 14 must have been a dealer?  I'm not buying the "they knew the order of the cards" story.  How could you order the cards without the pit boss knowing anything or the cameras seeing it?

 

1.3 Mill, wow.  They got greedy.  Should have stopped earlier, although I'm sure the casino would still have figured it out.

 

there was another similar story in the UK last week, where they refused to pay out a guy 7 million, 

 

it turned out he could read the cards as on the back they had small prints not seen to the naked eye which had details of the card

 

maybe part of the same scam? , but then the question of how the cards got into the place?,.... they are not reviling much 

 

 

Gambler won £7.8m by 'reading' the back of cards: How tiny flaw in deck design could have given poker star the upper hand

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323122/Phil-Ivey-Gambler-won-7-8m-reading-cards.html#ixzz2TC4gc5hr 

 

I dont think its related. By the way the flawed cards were visible to the naked eye. He didnt use any device to look at the cards. Good on him i say. If a casino is dumb enough to play flawed decks then the players have every right to use that to their advantage while they can.

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[HarryMilton]

Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Where at once 8 foreigners come from ?

Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story.

Well, they are foreigners, how do you expect them to be described? What's face-saving got to do with anything?

[HarryMilton]

Another six Thai men were charged on Monday with cheating the Marina Bay Sands casino of nearly $1.2 million.

On Saturday, eight alleged accomplices, comprising four men and four women, were charged. Seven were Thai nationals while one was a Laotian man.

All 14 are remanded for further investigations. The eight foreigners charged earlier will return to court on Friday while the case against the latest six in the dock will be mentioned again next Monday.

Where at once 8 foreigners come from ?

Oh I know already, from the saving face part of the story.

you are aware that this happened in singapore and your anti-thai rhetoric is misplaced, right?

You're aware that this is the Thailand news forum, opposed to the world news forum, right ?

The incident involved Thais, you are aware of this, right?

[HarryMilton]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

Maybe they just told you that because they didn't want you in there. It happens.

[sfbandung]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

You were probably trying to enter through the wrong entrance. There are separate entrances for foreigners and Singaporean residents.

[Payboy]

About time Thais had their own legal casinos to scam each other.

[canman]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

Singaporeans and PR are actually the only people with specific casino rules imposed on them by the government such has having to pay a Casino entry levy of $100.

There are no restrictions on other nationalities. If you were refused entry it may have been because you did not have a PP with you?

Edited May 13, 2013 by canman

[watcharacters]

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It's expensive there for the opportunity to lose money in a casino, but then again I read recently that one out of every six Singaporeans is a millionaire in USD terms.

"The daily entry levy is $100, and is valid for 24 consecutive hours starting from the time of first entry into the casino. The daily entry levy will expire if entry has not taken place by the end of the 30th day after the date of purchase. During the permitted 24 hours you may enter and exit the casino freely. If you purchased the annual, $2,000 levy, the annual entry levy is valid for 12 months starting from either (a) the time of first entry into the casino, or ( 90 days after the date of payment, whichever is earlier."

[noitom]

Hard to believe that 13 Thais and a Lao could "mastermind" and pull off such a caper at the baccarat tables. It is surprising that we are even reading about this and that the casino operator didn't just break their legs in the back room prior to cashing out. More information about this would be very interesting.

[Sing_Sling]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

Nope, no restrictions on foreigners

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It's expensive there for the opportunity to lose money in a casino, but then again I read recently that one out of every six Singaporeans is a millionaire in USD terms.

"The daily entry levy is $100, and is valid for 24 consecutive hours starting from the time of first entry into the casino. The daily entry levy will expire if entry has not taken place by the end of the 30th day after the date of purchase. During the permitted 24 hours you may enter and exit the casino freely. If you purchased the annual, $2,000 levy, the annual entry levy is valid for 12 months starting from either (a) the time of first entry into the casino, or ( 90 days after the date of payment, whichever is earlier."

Well yes, but not really . . . the flats are stunningly overpriced and you can't just sell a lot of the HDBs, there are rules and regs to this.

Having said that, the Gahmen has always enticed the wealthy from less secure countries - read Indon, Flipland, Thailand, Myanmar . . . to park their dosh there

[Sayonarax]

How did they get into the casino in the first place, I know the casino in question and you have to be Singaporean or permanent resident!

I know cos they turned me away :-(

Next time don't wear ya pluggers!