True 3G Dongle/smart Phone/sim Issue

[RKASA]

We now have true 3g in our town and I have seen a person use it from my home with their smart phone and works fine - tower is a clear 900m shot. Another user near by used their laptop via smart phone. OK I understand all that not a problem they don't need a dongle they have a phone already - but I have a modem with 3G dongle support and use a usb dongle in it or plug it direct to my laptop. I currently use it for dtac which is edge only in this area still. So I say I am going to switch from my dtac which is still edge only here and get true even if I have to replace my USB dongle with a true dongle they are not that expensive anyway.

I don't have, don't need, and don't want even a cheap smart phone.

But - no - I am told 3g for smart phone only not computer - What?

I am confused - what are they talking about. They want me to connect to the internet using wifi to smart phone or cable to smart phone and say a dongle won't work in my PC, Laptop, or modem with this true 3g. I can understand that I might need a true dongle - but why won't that work ether? What I am I missing here - the only people I can ask don't know a thing beyond

NO computer - smart phone only and they don't know why.

Is there a reason for this? Is it a waste to buy a dongle or switch sim without getting a smart phone - I would like to connect my LAN to a dongle via my modem and have home wifi and ports like I have now with dtac at edge speed.

I understand the use of a phone for internet, but why if I don't want to should I have to - what a basic pain in the A.... for a home user to put up with.

Are they just parroting something they heard - how do I find someone that can say something beyond No computer - smart phone only. What is so different about true 3g in this town?

[lomatopo]

What is the exact brand/model of your USB aircard?

It sounds like you have some sort of router which can accept a USB aircard, and then share the movile data connection across a LAN via WiFi or wired ethernet. Is that correct? What is the make and model of that unit?

Assuming it(the USB aircard) supports 850 MHz 3G and you are talking about TrueMove H/CAT, then you can buy any TrueMove H or My by CAT SIM, add value, subscribe to a data plan and you're good to go.

I use a TrueMove H SIM in a D-Link DWM-156 aircard.

http://truemoveh.truecorp.co.th/3g/toppings/iplay/entry/1312

[RKASA]

Thanks

"TrueMove H SIM in a D-Link DWM-156 aircard."

OK I use the MF-190 (zte mf190 1, 7.2Mbps UMTS 2100MHz 2, GSM/GPRS/EDGE 1900/1800/900/850MHz) with dtac sim and D-link DWR-112 3g router - I can switch aircards if the MF-190 does not work with true 3g.

They seem to think no aircard works with this tower only smart phone and I can't see why that would be - I am looking at the net899 which is much the same as I am using with dtac I buy 3gb of 3g but only get unlimited edge at home because the tower was not updated to 3g.

The new true tower has 3g working and should not matter about using an aircard. I was hoping to simply get a new sim card from true.

"850 MHz 3G TrueMove H/CAT any TrueMove H or My by CAT SIM" - so maybe I just do it and forget what they are saying about no computer only smart phone?

[lomatopo]

Do you happen to know if this new True tower is supplying 850 MHz 3G? Or the newer 2100 MHz 3G?

I am fairly certain that your ZTE MF-190 USB aircard only supports 2100 MHz 3G. Additionally it does support a number of standard, lower speed GSM data (2G: GPRS/EDGE, avg. 180 Kbps) frequenciesGSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz).

Assuming the new True tower is utilizing 850 MHz 3G then you will not be able to get higher, 3G speeds. You may be able to get GSM data from True on 1800 MHz, either by roaming with a TrueMove H SIM/plan, or a TrueMove SIM. If this new True tower is offering 2100 MHz 3G then your ZTE aircard would work.

Your D-link DWR-112 3g router is independent of any potentially available 3G services. If only TrueMove H/850 MHz 3G is available then maybe just purchase a new, 850 MHZ/3G compatible USB aircard, making sure to choose one which interworks with your D-Link unit. You can get a new USB aircard for 1,500 baht or less.

[RKASA]

Do you happen to know if this new True tower is supplying 850 MHz 3G? Or the newer 2100 MHz 3G?

I am fairly certain that your ZTE MF-190 USB aircard only supports 2100 MHz 3G. Additionally it does support a number of standard, lower speed GSM data (2G: GPRS/EDGE, avg. 180 Kbps) frequenciesGSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz).

Assuming the new True tower is utilizing 850 MHz 3G then you will not be able to get higher, 3G speeds. You may be able to get GSM data from True on 1800 MHz, either by roaming with a TrueMove H SIM/plan, or a TrueMove SIM. If this new True tower is offering 2100 MHz 3G then your ZTE aircard would work.

Your D-link DWR-112 3g router is independent of any potentially available 3G services. If only TrueMove H/850 MHz 3G is available then maybe just purchase a new, 850 MHZ/3G compatible USB aircard, making sure to choose one which interworks with your D-Link unit. You can get a new USB aircard for 1,500 baht or less.

"If only TrueMove H/850 MHz 3G is available then maybe just purchase a new, 850 MHZ/3G compatible USB aircard"

This is what they locally have been telling me I can't do - it won't work ether - only a smart phone - I ll buy an aircard if they tell me which one - they say none work. ???

I think they must be nuts - I know the router is independent the issue is I need a true sim and ether my old or a new aircard for it - this smart phone only no aircard deal is confusing - it does not comput to me - but I can't get the total picture across to them.

I ll just go into the true shop at the plazza in the city - the problem there is even if you show them on google map where the tower is and the name of the town they can never tell you what is out there or what works. It is like dealing with an air gap at both ends of the cable.

[Jiu-Jitsu]

If they say Smartphone only, then they are suggesting that it is 4G LTE. I think that is unlikely as they have 4G in Bangkok only. I think they are confused because TRUE launched both 3G & 4G on 2100MHz.

It's simple. Buy a True SIM for 49 baht, register it for the new 2100 MHz 3G service(if necessary) and enter the appropriate profile and buy a day package for 49 baht plus VAT. If no 3G, then purchase an appropriate MiFi unit that covers both 850 & 2100. I wouldn't bother with a dongle since it appears that you will use it with multiple devices anyway.

The Smartphone only story is nonsense. TRUE doesn't distinguish between the two frequencies. In fact they barely mention 2100MHz 3G at all. According to your device, you will roam on one or the other.

[Jiu-Jitsu]

APN details here: http://truemoveh.truecorp.co.th/product/detail/358/SharedWiFi21Mbps.แชร์ได้5คนพร้อมกัน

They call them Shared WiFi: http://truemoveh.truecorp.co.th/shopping/14

But you don't need to buy one from TRUE. You just need to match the appropriate specification.

[thaicbr]

Op.. on Dtac you are only getting Edge because your aircard does not support 850mhz 3g (so will not work on Dtac or True).

Have you actually checked to see if Dtac have 3g in your area?

[allalong]

OP Must be from uk. "DONGLE":lol:

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[Jiu-Jitsu]

Op.. on Dtac you are only getting Edge because your aircard does not support 850mhz 3g (so will not work on Dtac or True).

Have you actually checked to see if Dtac have 3g in your area?

Doesn't really matter. As if/when he gets a new modem it will be compatible with both on all frequencies.

Actually he doesn't even need to buy another SIM to test for 2100MHz access, as the modem software should indicated if the frequency is available on a manual scan.

If not, then TRUE H is likely on the 850MHz frequency.

[thaicbr]

Op.. on Dtac you are only getting Edge because your aircard does not support 850mhz 3g (so will not work on Dtac or True).

Have you actually checked to see if Dtac have 3g in your area?

Doesn't really matter. As if/when he gets a new modem it will be compatible with both on all frequencies.

Actually he doesn't even need to buy another SIM to test for 2100MHz access, as the modem software should indicated if the frequency is available on a manual scan.

If not, then TRUE H is likely on the 850MHz frequency.

You are kinda missing the point. The Op said the Dongle would not work on Dtac 3g which is 850mhz and just being launched on 2100mhz. My suggestion is to check if Dtac 3g works (850mhz) he would have to change the Dongle but he will have to do that anyway for True.

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[Jiu-Jitsu]

Op.. on Dtac you are only getting Edge because your aircard does not support 850mhz 3g (so will not work on Dtac or True).

Have you actually checked to see if Dtac have 3g in your area?

Doesn't really matter. As if/when he gets a new modem it will be compatible with both on all frequencies.

Actually he doesn't even need to buy another SIM to test for 2100MHz access, as the modem software should indicated if the frequency is available on a manual scan.

If not, then TRUE H is likely on the 850MHz frequency.

You are kinda missing the point. The Op said the Dongle would not work on Dtac 3g which is 850mhz and just being launched on 2100mhz. My suggestion is to check if Dtac 3g works (850mhz) he would have to change the Dongle but he will have to do that anyway for True.

Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6

So what is the point? He can't check for 850MHz if he doesn't have a suitable receiver. Once he has one then he can try with his DTAC SIM anyway. But at least he knows that there is a TRUE-H tower working in his vicinity.

[lomatopo]

The bickering here highlights the OP's primary issue: he needs to determine exactly which networks, operating on which frequencies, are available in his locale.

It seems like this could be easily accomplished by talking with one/both of, "...a person use it from my home with their smart phone and works fine - tower is a clear 900m shot. Another user near by used their laptop via smart phone. ".

It should be relatively easy to determine the service provider and frequency by examining the SIM(s) in these other two smartphones, and/or by examining the system settings on the smartphones. Assuming they are Android, Settings, About phone, Status and Settings, Wireless and networks, More, Mobile networks, Access Point Names.

My completely uninformed guess is that the OP's nearby tower is operated by CAT, and thus offers 850 MHz 3G from both My by CAT and TrueMove H. TrueMove H is a reseller of CAT.

Once we know what services/frequencies are available we can recommend a suitable USB aricard, assuming the OP still wishes to go that route.

[RKASA]

"suitable USB aricard" Yes - we need to define what that is and plug it into my d-link router and have a home LAN like I have now - only it will be real 3g with true - with dtac I pay for 3g so I can have unlimited edge and they don't have 3g here or any time soon they say. I have picked up the term's used by true here in order to tell them what I am looking for and some methods to determine what freq it is on then. I didn't think smart phone only was the correct answer so there must be a aircard out there for this if a mifi would work with the true sim too.

Thanks all.

[Jiu-Jitsu]

"suitable USB aricard" Yes - we need to define what that is and plug it into my d-link router and have a home LAN like I have now - only it will be real 3g with true - with dtac I pay for 3g so I can have unlimited edge and they don't have 3g here or any time soon they say. I have picked up the term's used by true here in order to tell them what I am looking for and some methods to determine what freq it is on then. I didn't think smart phone only was the correct answer so there must be a aircard out there for this if a mifi would work with the true sim too.

Thanks all.

Seriously, what you need to determine is which of their modems are compatible with your router.. for instance; Will a Hi-Link modem be compatible? You'll only know once you get it home and then you will likely be stuck, unless they process a refund. Speaking with them may just give you a headache. Perhaps take your router and laptop with you...buy a SIM card and get the rig working before you take the lot home.

[RKASA]

"suitable USB aricard" Yes - we need to define what that is and plug it into my d-link router and have a home LAN like I have now - only it will be real 3g with true - with dtac I pay for 3g so I can have unlimited edge and they don't have 3g here or any time soon they say. I have picked up the term's used by true here in order to tell them what I am looking for and some methods to determine what freq it is on then. I didn't think smart phone only was the correct answer so there must be a aircard out there for this if a mifi would work with the true sim too.

Thanks all.

Seriously, what you need to determine is which of their modems are compatible with your router.. for instance; Will a Hi-Link modem be compatible? You'll only know once you get it home and then you will likely be stuck, unless they process a refund. Speaking with them may just give you a headache. Perhaps take your router and laptop with you...buy a SIM card and get the rig working before you take the lot home.

Good point - that end too - the show me mode - the list of aircards for the D-link is forgiving but they can bork that with ROM if they special order the aircards - hope that is not what they were trying to say.

[Jiu-Jitsu]

"suitable USB aricard" Yes - we need to define what that is and plug it into my d-link router and have a home LAN like I have now - only it will be real 3g with true - with dtac I pay for 3g so I can have unlimited edge and they don't have 3g here or any time soon they say. I have picked up the term's used by true here in order to tell them what I am looking for and some methods to determine what freq it is on then. I didn't think smart phone only was the correct answer so there must be a aircard out there for this if a mifi would work with the true sim too.

Thanks all.

Seriously, what you need to determine is which of their modems are compatible with your router.. for instance; Will a Hi-Link modem be compatible? You'll only know once you get it home and then you will likely be stuck, unless they process a refund. Speaking with them may just give you a headache. Perhaps take your router and laptop with you...buy a SIM card and get the rig working before you take the lot home.

Good point - that end too - the show me mode - the list of aircards for the D-link is forgiving but they can bork that with ROM if they special order the aircards - hope that is not what they were trying to say.

English is always a good language to use when you are writing on a forum. There is also the possibility to disable Hi-Link on some modem to return them to the old 'dial up' status. Just more complications though.

It's why I suggested a MiFi/Shared WiFi unit in the fist place.