Cloggie Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Would like to hear your advise before I go to BQuick, Cockpit or any other tire dealer as I already know there answer "oh, can not sir, can not repair, can not, can not" Noticed that my tire is damaged (small cut) but want to know if this still can be repaired yes / no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 Moderator, please delete this post - can't attach picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Depends how big and how deep the cut is. If it has damaged the casing plies the tyre is probably not worth repairing. If the cut is small enough to repair but resulted in the tyre loosing pressure and it ran at low pressure for an extended period, it may also be risky to reuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 If you have a hole in the tyre it can be plugged safely by any tyre repairer you mention, or it can be repaired and also use an inner tube for added integrity. If you have a cut in the tyre that has pierced through to the inside causing loss of air, then I'd suggest that the integrity of the tyre is very questionable and even if it can be repaired and even if an inner tube is inserted to a state that it retains air, I wouldn't want to be a passenger in the car - highly unsafe as the tyre can fall apart at any moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) You say small cut. If it doesn't leak air change it over and kep it as your spare. If the spare is a temporary type, be safe and get the damaged tyre replaced. Edited May 17, 2013 by Kwasaki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted May 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2013 If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisp Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Agree, if its in or near to the sidewall, don't take any chances, its not worth risking your life for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Yes, and rightfully so.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball53098 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Not necessarily true. I had a cut/puncture from a nail and also a tread puncture. The first one was just over the edge of the tread about a quarter inch on the side.The local tire shop looked at the tire and and showed me how he repairs this using a hot patch system. He dismounted the tire and repaired both with this system. About 2 hours later all is well and I am still using the tire now after almost a year. I was skeptical about the fix but reading on Google shows this as an acceptable fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted May 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2013 If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Not necessarily true. I had a cut/puncture from a nail and also a tread puncture. The first one was just over the edge of the tread about a quarter inch on the side.The local tire shop looked at the tire and and showed me how he repairs this using a hot patch system. He dismounted the tire and repaired both with this system. About 2 hours later all is well and I am still using the tire now after almost a year. I was skeptical about the fix but reading on Google shows this as an acceptable fix Rather you than me, and well I hope you use correct pressure's and drive slowly, goodluck with that fix. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Not necessarily true. I had a cut/puncture from a nail and also a tread puncture. The first one was just over the edge of the tread about a quarter inch on the side.The local tire shop looked at the tire and and showed me how he repairs this using a hot patch system. He dismounted the tire and repaired both with this system. About 2 hours later all is well and I am still using the tire now after almost a year. I was skeptical about the fix but reading on Google shows this as an acceptable fix Thats strange, they won't repair sidewall damage in UK, they won't repair sidewall damage in ''LOS'', but they will in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 25 Years ago Thais had very iffy Rubber, now you only see Ferangs who cant afford a new one. Is this Sin Sod Related i wonder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Not necessarily true. I had a cut/puncture from a nail and also a tread puncture. The first one was just over the edge of the tread about a quarter inch on the side.The local tire shop looked at the tire and and showed me how he repairs this using a hot patch system. He dismounted the tire and repaired both with this system. About 2 hours later all is well and I am still using the tire now after almost a year. I was skeptical about the fix but reading on Google shows this as an acceptable fix Thats strange, they won't repair sidewall damage in UK, they won't repair sidewall damage in ''LOS'', but they will in the USA. Didn't read anything regarding the U.S. in his post? That close to the tread though and a small enough puncture with a patch on the inside it is possible, just not recommended... Edited May 18, 2013 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Not necessarily true. I had a cut/puncture from a nail and also a tread puncture. The first one was just over the edge of the tread about a quarter inch on the side.The local tire shop looked at the tire and and showed me how he repairs this using a hot patch system. He dismounted the tire and repaired both with this system. About 2 hours later all is well and I am still using the tire now after almost a year. I was skeptical about the fix but reading on Google shows this as an acceptable fix Thats strange, they won't repair sidewall damage in UK, they won't repair sidewall damage in ''LOS'', but they will in the USA. Didn't read anything regarding the U.S. in his post? That close to the tread though and a small enough puncture with a patch on the inside it is possible, just not recommended... Look at the guys avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 not necessarily true. I had a cut/puncture from a nail and also a tread puncture. The first one was just over the edge of the tread about a quarter inch on the side.The local tire shop looked at the tire and and showed me how he repairs this using a hot patch system. He dismounted the tire and repaired both with this system. About 2 hours later all is well and I am still using the tire now after almost a year. I was skeptical about the fix but reading on Google shows this as an acceptable fix If the cut is in the side wall of the tyre dump it, nobody will repair any side wall damage, even a nail hole. Thats strange, they won't repair sidewall damage in UK, they won't repair sidewall damage in ''LOS'', but they will in the USA. Didn't read anything regarding the U.S. in his post? That close to the tread though and a small enough puncture with a patch on the inside it is possible, just not recommended... Look at the guys avatar. Yeah so what?? Big jump from an avatar to an assumption that it's common practice in the states innit or he's referring to the states in his OP? Not to mention some people here and on other sites have avatars that suggest they may be a chimp or someone even famous (Stig also comes to mind, not as a chimp though) or even from another dimension doesn't mean they are, though in my case, I could be.... Stig that is ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball53098 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I never said the repairs were made in the USA. I said "local tire shop". The shop happens to be here in Ban Chang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogpoo Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I had a puncture yesterday, they repaired it by some sort of heat treatment, black goo and patch on the inside, much better than a tire plug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I never said the repairs were made in the USA. I said "local tire shop". The shop happens to be here in Ban Chang My apologies, I didn't really think anyone in the USA would repair it . Now I understand that someone for a 100 bht doesn't care about your safety. Below is a cross section of a radial tyre where common sense tells us why you do not try and repair a sidewall. Theres no meat on this very flexable part of the construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashirelad Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If the cut is less than an inch long and you cannot see the cords when you open it up, just glue the rubber back down. If it is more than an inch or you can see the cords, bin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If the cut is less than an inch long and you cannot see the cords when you open it up, just glue the rubber back down. If it is more than an inch or you can see the cords, bin it. Super glue eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Thanks for all your comments so far, don't understand why I can't upload pictures in a post so lets do it this way, tyre looks like this: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/20130517082447.jpg/ Maybe 'glue' will help, can try it - important or not its my back wheel, passengers seat. Edited May 20, 2013 by Cloggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Actually super glue works really well with bonding rubber.. Not sure I'd feel confident in using it on a tire though. Edited May 20, 2013 by WarpSpeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Actually super glue works really well with bonding rubber.. Not sure I'd feel confident in using it on a tire though. I with you on the glue thing but that cut looks very small would say check to see how deep it is and that said it's on the thick part of the tyre. As for the back wheel not being important even if it's 4x4 it's a rear wheel drive vehicle mainly so it is important. It looks like he has a Vigo the spare is a usable tyre not a temporary one " well my Vigo spare was " and if I was bothered as I said before keep as a spare and get it changed onto the spare wheel rim. Edited May 21, 2013 by Kwasaki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'd repair it and use it as a spare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Actually super glue works really well with bonding rubber.. Not sure I'd feel confident in using it on a tire though. I with you on the glue thing but that cut looks very small would say check to see how deep it is and that said it's on the thick part of the tyre. As for the back wheel not being important even if it's 4x4 it's a rear wheel drive vehicle mainly so it is important. It looks like he has a Vigo the spare is a usable tyre not a temporary one " well my Vigo spare was " and if I was bothered as I said before keep as a spare and get it changed onto the spare wheel rim. Yep that's what I meant too but wasn't very clear on, could be repaired for a spare but I wouldn't be confident for a daily driver.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashirelad Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Thanks for all your comments so far, don't understand why I can't upload pictures in a post so lets do it this way, tyre looks like this: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/20130517082447.jpg/ Maybe 'glue' will help, can try it - important or not its my back wheel, passengers seat. I only catch up here on a Sunday. It seems the image has been removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Correct, several people on another message board complained about the use of Imageschack - that's why I have deleted my account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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