Woolwich Attack: ' Soldier Beheaded' By Ranting Fanatics On Busy London Street

[Mosha]

Tommy Robinson is right about one thing. Separate prisons are a must.

[transam]

Sad Read. But Oh Dear, now we must wait for the P.C. Wimps to give us their reason why most of us here are wrong.But you will notice,never a word from them on solving the problem .

, I read somewhere...''The Blind Never See''. .............

[uptheos]

Tommy Robinson is right about one thing. Separate prisons are a must.

There's an ideal one in Cuba, which is far enough away and tailor made for Islamic terrorists. If we asked the Americans nicely, perhaps we could do a prison share.

[transam]

Tommy Robinson is right about one thing. Separate prisons are a must.

There's an ideal one in Cuba, which is far enough away and tailor made for Islamic terrorists. If we asked the Americans nicely, perhaps we could do a prison share.

Or Iran, lots of room, lamp posts set up for stuff, no McDonald's though.

[GentlemanJim]

7by7

Help for Heroes is and always has been a non political organization and has never taken money from any political organization.

Referring to your reply to me, i dont need to talk to current or ex servicemen i was one for 20 years.

[yogi100]

Ace of Pop said on 27th May...

"Whatever, but i can walk down a Portuguese Path without being
attacked by an African with a Meat Cleaver.Why do You Consider
discipline, an pride in ones Nation as fascism.Was your great Sir
Winston racist for his views."

For some decades now the left and the 'liberals' accuse all of us who

do not 'embrace multiculturalism' as fascists, racists, bigots and even
nazis. The left have infiltrated by stealth and intention every
government run organisation and most of the media in Britain in order to
be in a position to exert their influence.

The use of terms such as racist etc is beginning to wear thin, those

who are the targets of these accusations should ignore them and folk
should say what they really think, we have been cowed into silence for
too long.

[yogi100]

Indeed.

Although you and Mosha may not realise it from 6000 miles away, the UK mosques which tolerate the extremists are very few and far between.

When were you last in a UK Mosque.

[transam]

OK 7by7, seems perhaps enough has been said here.

Soooooooooo, answer me/us one question truthfully.

An incapacitated UK guy who could not defend himself was butchered because of writings in a religious book.

Yes OR No.

[samran]

Both are equally unfair. An ignorant extremist minority from both sides who see fit to label an entire group with an unfair assessment.

You made my point dumbo.

I don't see why you think i would have disagreed with it in the first place. What I think alot of people automatically do here is that any view against the transam's of the world automatically means you are in bed with extremists.

Yeah, and Dumbo. Pure class you are.

[Ulysses G.]

Robinson, (aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, why does he need to use two names, I wonder) has responded as expected

The same reason that Kurt Westergaard, Theo van Gogh and Salman Rushdie had to go into hiding. They were all targeted by extremist Muslims who objected to critical cartoons, films and books about Islam. Westergaard was attacked with an ax - like the soldier in England - and Theo van Gogh was murdered.

[7by7]

Indeed.

Although you and Mosha may not realise it from 6000 miles away, the UK mosques which tolerate the extremists are very few and far between.

When were you last in a UK Mosque.

Personally, about two weeks ago. Not to worship, I'm not a Muslim, but for a social event.

When were you?

[yogi100]

I've read every post on this thread.

2 out of control thugs and 1 British soldier were the subject of the original post.

The thread has weaved some knotty problems.

As for statistics and political correctness, I reckon the majority of non-Muslim British people would be quite happy if all Muslims in the UK were to re-patriate to countries where Islam ideology rules.

No doubt somebody will challenge this on the basis of where is the evidence and criticise it for being racist.

Islam is an ideology, as one poster has already pointed out, not a race

Check out page 5 of today's Bangkok Post if you can for an insight into one aspect of Islam ideology.

What you describe is otherwise known as ethnic cleansing. If you are happy for the UK to be party to that and the support for it exists to the extent you say, then run for parliament on that platform and see how far that gets you.

Nothing better that a secret ballot for people to express their real feelings.

My view is you'd lose by a mile.

Most real Londoners were ethnically cleansed out of London years ago thanks to the left wing councils' housing policies.

[7by7]

OK 7by7, seems perhaps enough has been said here.

Soooooooooo, answer me/us one question truthfully.

An incapacitated UK guy who could not defend himself was butchered because of writings in a religious book.

Yes OR No.

He was murdered by extreme fanatics who follow a perverted form of a certain religion.

A perversion rejected and condemned by the vast majority of British Muslims.

Many of whom, as quoted previously in this thread, have publicly condemned this appalling crime.

[SinglePot]

No Prizes for guessing who doesnt donate to Help for Hereos.

Clearly, right wing nut bag groups don't.

And who tries to behead them if they are wearing the T-shirt?

Anybody asked the heroes or their families if they don't want the money from aka Tommy Robinson ( who is clearly a fascist ba***** who needs putting in a segregated British prison as soon as bl**** possible.)

Ain't that the truth 7x7.

[uptheos]

OK 7by7, seems perhaps enough has been said here.

Soooooooooo, answer me/us one question truthfully.

An incapacitated UK guy who could not defend himself was butchered because of writings in a religious book.

Yes OR No.

He was murdered by extreme fanatics who follow a perverted form of a certain religion.

A perversion rejected and condemned by the vast majority of British Muslims.

Many of whom, as quoted previously in this thread, have publicly condemned this appalling crime.

You have a problem saying Islam? They WERE Islamic butchers you know, not "certain religion" butchers!

[Scott]

A lot of off-topic, inflammatory and just plain nasty posts have been removed as well as replies. Unfortunately, some replies would have been worth saving, but can't be when you quote a post that will be deleted.

For a few of you who want to have a personal conversation, please use the PM function.

[samran]

OK 7by7, seems perhaps enough has been said here.

Soooooooooo, answer me/us one question truthfully.

An incapacitated UK guy who could not defend himself was butchered because of writings in a religious book.

Yes OR No.

He was murdered by extreme fanatics who follow a perverted form of a certain religion.

A perversion rejected and condemned by the vast majority of British Muslims.

Many of whom, as quoted previously in this thread, have publicly condemned this appalling crime.

You have a problem saying Islam? They WERE Islamic butchers you know, not "certain religion" butchers!

My view is that they were not of any religion. Just like the IRA were supposedly Catholics - they weren't. They were just murderers and fanatics, in this case, flying under the guise of an islamic jihadist banner. .

[F430murci]

OK 7by7, seems perhaps enough has been said here.

Soooooooooo, answer me/us one question truthfully.

An incapacitated UK guy who could not defend himself was butchered because of writings in a religious book.

Yes OR No.

He was murdered by extreme fanatics who follow a perverted form of a certain religion.

A perversion rejected and condemned by the vast majority of British Muslims.

Many of whom, as quoted previously in this thread, have publicly condemned this appalling crime.

For some unapparent reason, this is issue is very personal to you and you lack any ability to view objectively and challenge your belief system with a different manner of viewing the problem. Reminds me of how someone buying into the teachings of the Koran would react when those teaching or thought processes are challenged. Edited May 28, 2013 by F430murci

[thaicbr]

Transam said:

Ask your friends why they don't grass up the teachers of hate. Why they don't want to walk the UK streets to protest about the teachers of hate. Ask them and let us know.

Maybe they do, but I will ask.

But I do know that they do disown the preachers of hate at every opportunity.

But as most of the hate mongers, Muslim, EDL, BNP et al, are already known to the authorities, it'd be a bit of a waste of time reporting them. Someone preaching or demonstrating in the street isn't exactly unnoticeable!.

But as we live in a democracy, the authorities cannot act until an actual crime has been committed. We do not imprison people merely for their beliefs. You may wish to change that; I don't.

BTW, why are you so fond of that coffee cup smiley? What do you think it adds to your comments?

But if we truly live in a democracy then those self same Muslim protagonists are in fact breaking the law... they are inciting violence, they are being racist and yet the law does nothing (or very little)

But yet a pregnant women is detained and warned in Oldham for carrying a Union jack and a St Georges with the words "NO MORE MOSQUES" on it.. remember this is Oldham a town with nearly 30 mosques already.........

[Scott]

Closed for clean up.

//Closed//

[Scott]

After some discussion and some PM's from members, it has been decided that this topic will remain closed. When there is news to report, this can be reconsidered. This is a PM that I received and I think that it is worth noting:

Hi Scott



I see that you have been moderating the Woolwich attack page and so I though it right that I sent this request to you.

I have followed the thread for a good while now and I am a little saddened that only myself and a handful of other posters actually paid their respects to Drummer Lee Rigby.It is a pity that the two people and
religion they acted under got more attention than the innocent young soul that lost his life.

I know that it is not Thai related but could it be possible for Me,yourself or one of the other moderators to
start a Remembrance/tribute page for Lee.I would hate to think of a friend or family member coming across the TVF and only finding Lee being mentioned as the 'soldier','victim'.

Regards

On that note, the topic will again be closed.