Can My Farang Girl Become Thai ?

[hansje1980]

Who in their right mind want to be Thai citizen. Ok if you have another nationality as well.

I have a friend who is married to thai but she kept her nationality, no problem. No need to show money in bank for visa.

You actually read my post? I said on top of her non-Thai passport. If she would have to let go her current one, she would never do that ofcourse.

An extra Thai citizenship comes with many benefits for both personal life as well as business wise. Anyhow no need to go further off topic.

[chrisbinbkk99]

Who in their right mind want to be Thai citizen. Ok if you have another nationality as well.

I have a friend who is married to thai but she kept her nationality, no problem. No need to show money in bank for visa.

You actually read my post? I said on top of her non-Thai passport. If she would have to let go her current one, she would never do that ofcourse.

An extra Thai citizenship comes with many benefits for both personal life as well as business wise. Anyhow no need to go further off topic.

Nonsense can be thai can be farang end of the day u choose what u want to be I been here 18 year's so its my right to be thai and yes I always be a farang but because I make an effort to become a thai citizen doesnt me I am wrong.

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[belg]

the whole female advantages compared to male farangs about monies needed for each year begging contest and becomming PR or thai

is not fair

but what is in this country, where we have no rights?

[lopburi3]

An off-topic post (and reply) removed - this is a question on citizenship and posted by a Thai national in Thailand. There are many members of this board who have such experience and can post useful replies - any web site will have those posting unhelpful information but that is the nature of the beast.

[ayayay]

If you are asking, can a white skinned person become a brownie, no, probably not.

If you are asking if an American, Danish, or British person can get thai citizenship, yes, it is probably possible.

Your point?

You are asking if a white skin person can become thai, farang means white skinned.

[ayayay]

If you are asking, can a white skinned person become a brownie, no, probably not.

If you are asking if an American, Danish, or British person can get thai citizenship, yes, it is probably possible.

And what has colour have to do with the price of milk my old son?

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He asked if a white skinned person can become thai. Thais are obsessed with skin color rather than nationality.

[Arkady]

If you are asking, can a white skinned person become a brownie, no, probably not.

If you are asking if an American, Danish, or British person can get thai citizenship, yes, it is probably possible.

And what has colour have to do with the price of milk my old son?

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He asked if a white skinned person can become thai. Thais are obsessed with skin color rather than nationality.

A ridiculous racist comment but to set matters straight. As has always been the case, most of those who apply for Thai citizenship, either through naturalisation or through having a Thai spouse, are Chinese or from other Asian countries but these days there are around 5% farang applicants and there are quite a few farangs who are naturalised Thai citizens. I personally know several.

[chrisbinbkk99]

Ok got the yellow book for the pink id card I can do but need a letter from immigration stating my address then back to aumpur they also include me in the blue book t.r.14 then issue me with an id card (while u wait) I may not bother as I really only need the yellow book for now....

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[samran]

Ok got the yellow book for the pink id card I can do but need a letter from immigration stating my address then back to aumpur they also include me in the blue book t.r.14 then issue me with an id card (while u wait) I may not bother as I really only need the yellow book for now....

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Suspect you won't get on the blue book given you aren't PR, nor will you get a pink ID given that it only seems to be for PR and hill-tribe like residents according the ministerial letter that has been discuessed recently.

[eek]

You may want to PM Admin members BOO and SBK about their experiences hansje1980, they are both Farang ladies married to Thai.
There are quite a few farang female /thai male marriages, but with these ladies being admin, they are probably the best ones to ask.

Good luck to you both!

[hansje1980]

Thanks Eek!

[sausageandmash]

Actually both men and women can become naturalized Thai - just as other countries allow such. It used to be easier for a woman as PR was not a requirement but PR has been removed from the requirement for men now also. Read the threads here in visa section on Thai Citizenship if you do not obtain enough information in this thread.

What is PR?

[lopburi3]

Several racial nonsense posts and replies removed - there was a question asked and answered - we do not need to take this into other areas.

[MAJIC]

Assuming your Post is genuine? then you really have a lot to learn from your Thai Ministry either way i'm not biting. But I can tell you that positive discrimination,most certainly does not apply to Farangs!

Ignore this poster, he doesn't know what he is talking about.

If you marry your girlfriend, she is eligble to apply for Thai citizenship at the Special Branch office at police HQ on Rama 1 Rd in BKK. And yes, the laws written to slightly favour foreign females who apply.

There are a range of criteria needed including (but not limited to):

- Being married for 3 years (without kids) or married for 1 year (with kids)

- The husband having an income of at least 15,000 per month

- Evidence of tax paid on that income (tax returns need to be shown

- The wife registered in the yellow tabieen baan

- Your military records, showing you have reported for the draft

- Thai witnesses to vouch for the application.

There are a few other thing, but they are the main ones. You apply at special branch, and the entire process can take a minimum of 3 years after application, which will include interviews with the Ministry of Interior etc.

Also, another thing to correct, as others have said, foreign males can and do apply for Thai citizenship.

I'm sure your last line is correct,it would be nice to see how many per year get Citizenship,and how many give up what can be a 5 year chase?

[Richard W]

What is PR?

Permanent Residence

[samran]

Assuming your Post is genuine? then you really have a lot to learn from your Thai Ministry either way i'm not biting. But I can tell you that positive discrimination,most certainly does not apply to Farangs!

Ignore this poster, he doesn't know what he is talking about.

If you marry your girlfriend, she is eligble to apply for Thai citizenship at the Special Branch office at police HQ on Rama 1 Rd in BKK. And yes, the laws written to slightly favour foreign females who apply.

There are a range of criteria needed including (but not limited to):

- Being married for 3 years (without kids) or married for 1 year (with kids)

- The husband having an income of at least 15,000 per month

- Evidence of tax paid on that income (tax returns need to be shown

- The wife registered in the yellow tabieen baan

- Your military records, showing you have reported for the draft

- Thai witnesses to vouch for the application.

There are a few other thing, but they are the main ones. You apply at special branch, and the entire process can take a minimum of 3 years after application, which will include interviews with the Ministry of Interior etc.

Also, another thing to correct, as others have said, foreign males can and do apply for Thai citizenship.

I'm sure your last line is correct,it would be nice to see how many per year get Citizenship,and how many give up what can be a 5 year chase?

Once your application is in, it is in, and you just wait. If you are going for citizenship then I'd suspect Thailand is your home, and that you aren't going to pull out.

Last month I asked at special branch, and they told me that they have a backlog of about 1000 applicants, and the government is doing final round interviewing at a rate of about 20 or 30 per month. Assuming most of these get approved, you can do the maths - the 3 to 5 year timeframe seems about right in this context.

Part of the timeframe is controlled by the whim of the minister. I was told the coup government was the best in approving citizenship applications. Part of the timeframe is also down to logistics, getting the people on the citizenship interviewing committee together.

[Arkady]

Assuming your Post is genuine? then you really have a lot to learn from your Thai Ministry either way i'm not biting. But I can tell you that positive discrimination,most certainly does not apply to Farangs!

Ignore this poster, he doesn't know what he is talking about.

If you marry your girlfriend, she is eligble to apply for Thai citizenship at the Special Branch office at police HQ on Rama 1 Rd in BKK. And yes, the laws written to slightly favour foreign females who apply.

There are a range of criteria needed including (but not limited to):

- Being married for 3 years (without kids) or married for 1 year (with kids)

- The husband having an income of at least 15,000 per month

- Evidence of tax paid on that income (tax returns need to be shown

- The wife registered in the yellow tabieen baan

- Your military records, showing you have reported for the draft

- Thai witnesses to vouch for the application.

There are a few other thing, but they are the main ones. You apply at special branch, and the entire process can take a minimum of 3 years after application, which will include interviews with the Ministry of Interior etc.

Also, another thing to correct, as others have said, foreign males can and do apply for Thai citizenship.

I'm sure your last line is correct,it would be nice to see how many per year get Citizenship,and how many give up what can be a 5 year chase?

Once your application is in, it is in, and you just wait. If you are going for citizenship then I'd suspect Thailand is your home, and that you aren't going to pull out.

Last month I asked at special branch, and they told me that they have a backlog of about 1000 applicants, and the government is doing final round interviewing at a rate of about 20 or 30 per month. Assuming most of these get approved, you can do the maths - the 3 to 5 year timeframe seems about right in this context.

Part of the timeframe is controlled by the whim of the minister. I was told the coup government was the best in approving citizenship applications. Part of the timeframe is also down to logistics, getting the people on the citizenship interviewing committee together.

I was also given that number of around 1,000 waiting for interview when I called the MoI nearly three years ago. The Sub-Committee that does interviews comprises 15 permanent members who can delegate to some one else but all those departments must be represented. Officially it meets once a month but the reality is more like 7-8 times a year. 20 or 30 applicants are invited but due to the way the invitations are sent out by snail mail, sometimes arriving after the date of the interview, there are always some no shows. That probably means there are around 165 interviews a year which would that queue of 1,000 6 years long, assuming no queue jumping which in Thailand would be hard to believe. Some of them, particularly those who have to sing, fail and others are found to have problems in their documentation. That probably means around 150 getting through the interviews a year. They then need to be approved by the main committee chaired by the permanent secretary which is supposed to meet about twice a year but hasn't met at all in 2013 so far. I don't know how many the main committee considers at a sitting but I think they also have to consider the hundreds of refugee, hill tribe and displaced person applicants, as well as PR at the same time. So there is probably a backlog there too. Since the transition back to civilian rule approvals have only been running at an average rate of 80 a year which suggests another long wait after passing the interview, since there are more people joining the queue for the minister's signature every year than being approved.

If a minister decides to shake them all up, he can speed up the process significantly and this clearly happened under the military appointed government. Left to their own devices the bureaucrats will drag their heels and political IMs have other priorities. Still hanging on in there. Anyone for another coup?