Chiang Mai Thai Man Seriously Assaulted And Ripped Off At A Karaoke Bar – Beware

[Mapguy]

Suspicious, realthaideal ??!! Hoo Hah! A lot of foolishness on this thread, as on others like it !!

If you go to a karaoke bar --- or the same sort of place in ANY country --- what the devil do you expect !!! It appears, at the very least, that some posters here have never experienced what it costs to have a lass in Tokyo rub your thigh!

"Fun" on a budget ??!! Try gerbils!!

[Mapguy]

Any place that has really, really hot girls outside, I'll pass. That is often a trap waiting to happen.

I don't get the really, really hot girls bit. To me they look quite silly, much like an over made up praying mantis. Now if they were a bunch of hot Latino's, I might understand it a little better. Even boobs instead of false cups might go some way to being a better attraction.

As for me, I too always used to pass the hot girls, or that's what it seemed like when I awoke the next morning.

+1 You can really be a funny guy!!!

Edited June 6, 2013 by Mapguy

[landtrout]

I think that many Westerners are under a delusion about Thailand’s adult entertainments industries and the female staff who work in them.

You are way over generalizing. There are plenty of women in the adult entertainment industry in Thailand who want to please their customers and who are very good at their jobs. Yes, of course they want to get paid. That is why they are there. There are also plenty of bars that are fun, safe places to go with staff that are honest. Thailand is still a great place to visit for adult entertainment if you use a little common sense.

You were doing OK there with him until you mentioned common sense.

He tries to make it sound like over half the establishments in Chiang Mai are drinking joints full of hookers out to rip you off. From the tone of almost all his posts I wonder why he stays here in Thailand. Can't say as he dosen't miss a chance to Thai bash.

If you read all my posts, going back as far as possible, you will see that I have always been very defensive as regards to the Thai people and Thailand. Please show even one example of when I have criticized Thailand as a whole? You made a statement, now show something to support it?

My son is a policeman here in Chiang Mai, and he deals with many such cases as described in my OP. I am only passing on some information so as to make those who have little or no experience of Thailand aware of some of the dangers here.

Either take notice or ignore, up to you.

I told my wife several hours ago that I would not be able to join her in our conjugal bed until Mr. B.J. had deigned to make yet another (curiously long overdue...) reference to his son, who (as we all know) is a "policeman here in Chiang Mai".

Thank you, Mr. B.J. and...... my wife thanks you as well!

Nighty night!

[Beetlejuice]

I told my wife several hours ago that I would not be able to join her in our conjugal bed until Mr. B.J. had deigned to make yet another (curiously long overdue...) reference to his son, who (as we all know) is a "policeman here in Chiang Mai".

Thank you, Mr. B.J. and...... my wife thanks you as well!

Nighty night!

I mention the fact that my lad is a policeman because he is my source of information, just to put everyone in the picture. You forgot to quote that my wife`s nephew is also a policeman in Chiang Mai, working with the same unit as my son. That has disappointed me, because it means you are not reading all my posts properly.

I am flattered that your wife thanks me and by the sound of it, it seems that she finds reading my posts as more exciting than having a bit conjugal with you, and quite frankly, who can blame her?

Later on I will send you an application form so she may join my fan club, as I am thrilled that my Thai visa fame has attracted such a huge female following.

[beb]

As somebody else mentioned, I've wanted to find a Singing Room type place to go with friends and nobody seems to know of one that doesn't involve the girls except for the places at Airport Plaza. It's too bad because they can be a great fun night out with friends.

[OldChinaHam]

Any place that has really, really hot girls outside, I'll pass. That is often a trap waiting to happen.

Lucky for you then....

There are no really hot girls in Chiang Mai that I have so far seen.

Even ones standing outside in the heat panting do not look very hot or enticing.

But I will still never venture into a Karaoke joint, girls or no.

It is my ears that take a serious assaulting every time.

[Ulysses G.]

There are no really hot girls in Chiang Mai that I have so far seen.

There are some. Ask Winnie the Kwai to peruse his recent photos of girls working on Loi Kroh Road. He turned me into a believer. Edited June 7, 2013 by Ulysses G.

[OldChinaHam]

There are no really hot girls in Chiang Mai that I have so far seen.

There are some. Ask Winnie the Kwai to puruse his recent photos of girls working on Loi Kroh Road. He turned me into a believer.

One or two photos would be enough, provided they could be authenticated in some way.

[orang37]

I appreciate that on this thread, BeetleJuice, and others, have actually showed concern for a Thai person.

~o:37;

[binjalin]

Being punched *ONE* time equates to "Seriously Assaulted"???? Was it Mike Tyson that punched him?

what else? exaggeration at his best.

any men going in dodgy sleazy places deserved to get ripped off

does that include government offices?

[onthedarkside]

Inappropriate troll and 2 replies - removed.

[heybruce]

As somebody else mentioned, I've wanted to find a Singing Room type place to go with friends and nobody seems to know of one that doesn't involve the girls except for the places at Airport Plaza. It's too bad because they can be a great fun night out with friends.

It's been a couple of years, but there is at least one place on Suthap--I think it's Milk karaoke or something like that. These kinds of places are popular with university students, and perhaps young Thai's in general; if you know any young Thai's you could ask them.

BTW, by "popular", I mean they like to go there with friends for silly fun, not that they go there cruising for action.

[dickyknee]

As somebody else mentioned, I've wanted to find a Singing Room type place to go with friends and nobody seems to know of one that doesn't involve the girls except for the places at Airport Plaza. It's too bad because they can be a great fun night out with friends.

It's been a couple of years, but there is at least one place on Suthap--I think it's Milk karaoke or something like that. These kinds of places are popular with university students, and perhaps young Thai's in general; if you know any young Thai's you could ask them.

BTW, by "popular", I mean they like to go there with friends for silly fun, not that they go there cruising for action.

tar and brush comes to mind. there are many karaoke places about town ranging from small tunnel bars with a KTV machine in the corner to the extravagant places like those on chang klan.

[babykyo]

Wanna act like a boss walking in a high end karaoka bar, buying lady drinks, hugging ladies, lots of ladies singing with him, and cant afford to pay 28000 baht. You call it a rip off? LOL, I think he is a idiot trying to be funny with the bar. Welcome to the asia city karaoka bar or night club in Singapore or Hong Kong, 28000 baht can only be a tips to the hostress, or we call it bar girls, not to mention half a million baht bill. Singapore dollars $20000. This is not is rip off, It is meant for those who can afford.

[babykyo]

My friend bought a nokia mobile phone in tesco lotus for 900 baht. And you are selling me a iphone 5 for 20000 baht. it is after all a mobile phone. It is just a mobile phone. It is a rip off.

[elektrified]

Any place that has really, really hot girls outside, I'll pass. That is often a trap waiting to happen.

I don't get the really, really hot girls bit. To me they look quite silly, much like an over made up praying mantis. Now if they were a bunch of hot Latino's, I might understand it a little better. Even boobs instead of false cups might go some way to being a better attraction.

As for me, I too always used to pass the hot girls, or that's what it seemed like when I awoke the next morning.

Indeed I often wonder what some of these "hot" girls that stand out in front of Karaoke bars look like without all the silly make up and padded bras on. I would bet that 1/2 of them you wouldn't look twice at if you ran into them at the grocery store.

[Ulysses G.]

That goes for "hot" women all over the world. Enjoy the illusion.

[CMNightRider]

It has always been a mystery to me while anyone would go to a Karaoke Bar in the first place. Guys go there to sing songs and buy drinks for women that aren't going to go home with them?

[binjalin]

It has always been a mystery to me while anyone would go to a Karaoke Bar in the first place. Guys go there to sing songs and buy drinks for women that aren't going to go home with them?

no they go there to sing songs and buy drinks AND take them home with them I believe (not for me but hey,ho each to their own)

[pete66]

Buying a phone for whatever price is not a rip-off because you can see the *price up-front*. Karaoke bars in Chiang Mia are rip-offs because they plainly invent bills for 20K to 30K for 2-3 hrs of entertainment. And if you don't wan't to pay the bill, you WILL get escorted to an ATM machine until you cough up the cash. You have no way out.

There is no comparison between buying phones and singing songs in karaoke. A Korean mate of mine got charged 30K. His only "mistake" was allowing 3 girls into the room because they said they wanted to "sing along".

Naive? Yes of course. Fair or legal? Probably neither. There was no real bill for him to examine, just the "let's round it up to 30K" mentality. And yes, it happens to Thais as well. And it happens because the owners are in cahoots with the BIB. If they weren't, patrons would be allowed to see real bills.

Bottom line - never go in these places unless (a) you've got a load of cash you don't care about or ( you are going with someone who knows the score and knows how to keep the bill down (i.e. not invite any ladies to sing along). If you just want a lady for the night, there are way cheaper options available.

Edited June 8, 2013 by pete66

[pete66]

CMNightRider, on 08 Jun 2013 - 07:57, said:

It has always been a mystery to me while anyone would go to a Karaoke Bar in the first place. Guys go there to sing songs and buy drinks for women that aren't going to go home with them?

They do go home with them if they pay up. Its not a problem. I went to one karaoke place in Chumphon with some thai friends and there was plenty of action in the room itself, and this was for small tips (100 to 200 baht), the girls would leave with the client for well under 1000. Chiang Mai must be the biggest karaoke rip-off place in Thailand.

And of course, some people do actually just like to sing. You can go with a group of friends. The "mama san" will ask you early on if you want "girls". You are allowed to say no in the places I've been to. They will ask you again once you've had a few drinks of course

Edited June 8, 2013 by pete66

[cheeryble]

Indeed I often wonder what some of these "hot" girls that stand out in front of Karaoke bars look like without all the silly make up and padded bras on. I would bet that 1/2 of them you wouldn't look twice at if you ran into them at the grocery store.

Make that test happen for me.

[terminatorchiangmai]

CMNightRider, on 08 Jun 2013 - 07:57, said:

It has always been a mystery to me while anyone would go to a Karaoke Bar in the first place. Guys go there to sing songs and buy drinks for women that aren't going to go home with them?

They do go home with them if they pay up. Its not a problem. I went to one karaoke place in Chumphon with some thai friends and there was plenty of action in the room itself, and this was for small tips (100 to 200 baht), the girls would leave with the client for well under 1000. Chiang Mai must be the biggest karaoke rip-off place in Thailand.

And of course, some people do actually just like to sing. You can go with a group of friends. The "mama san" will ask you early on if you want "girls". You are allowed to say no in the places I've been to. They will ask you again once you've had a few drinks of course

75 % of the girls on Chang Clan are ready for take out , even when you not go in the karaoke pub. Be prepared to dig deep in your wallet.

[FolkGuitar]

Maybe it's time for the little Red pill. That's the one that removes the desire to to take the little blue pill and go to karaoke bars...

Think how much extra money you'll have at the end of the month to spend on Bible study classes or translations of the 'Iliad.'

[Ulysses G.]

What would life be without desire?

[moe666]

Beware of what just do not go into these bars

[amexpat]

"Indeed I often wonder what some of these "hot" girls that stand out in front of Karaoke bars look like without all the silly make up and padded bras on. I would bet that 1/2 of them you wouldn't look twice at if you ran into them at the grocery store."

I think I would still look twice at their legs. Maybe five or six times.

[jackr]

What would life be without desire?

Ask the local boys in the karaoke; apparently they're all Buddhists.

[rubberduck]

Being punched *ONE* time equates to "Seriously Assaulted"???? Was it Mike Tyson that punched him?

One hard punch in the eye can make one blind or handicapped for life, so yes, this is a serious assault for sure.

[Beetlejuice]

Being punched *ONE* time equates to "Seriously Assaulted"???? Was it Mike Tyson that punched him?

One hard punch in the eye can make one blind or handicapped for life, so yes, this is a serious assault for sure.

I believe about 9 months ago, a Danish man was blinded in one eye, after he disputed an extravagant bill in a Chiang Mai karaoke bar and the mamasan smashed a bottle in his face.

Seems as if a punch or bottle in the face is standard practice in these places against customers who object to being ripped off.

Many of these establishments are really geared for wealthy Japanese, Korean and other South East Asian businessmen, who`s expenses are paid out of their company coffers, not for the average peasants like us, who are on budgets and would consider 30000 baht or more as a lot of money.

The bottom line is; that for those who venture into these so-called VIP karaoke clubs, should expect to be changed high flying VIP prices, no different from other such higher end adult entertainments worldwide. Can`t pay, don`t want to pay, you`re have trouble, it`s that simple.

As I said previously, I would never venture into any of these places, for one good reason that I don`t have that sort of money to spend on a night out.

My point is and the advice from the police is; fully realize what you are getting into before considering venturing inside any of these types of premises. Fund wise, make sure you are well stacked and can afford it, for the sake of your own safety.

My personal opinion is; drive passed slowly, have a perv at all the pretty girls outside and keep driving.

I`ve heard that even the Loi Kroh grots start to appear desirable after the first 7 or 8 bottles of the cheap Leo or Chang Thai gut rot beer.

Edited June 8, 2013 by Beetlejuice