thai lady go to uk after marry

[timeshort]

hello guys

here is matter to me and i could use some help

i come from Greece (eu citizen) and now im staying and working in uk for sometime
so i will go and marry my thai lady in a few months in thailand

what is my questions

1) do i need a specific visa so i can enter thailand and do that ?

(got a answer that doesnt matter what visa will enter)

2) after marry we want to move to uk stay and work so here is my questions on this

a) what i need to do after we get marry and get the thai certificate that says that we are marry ?

b ) i know that i have to go to bkk uk embassy and fix some papers there but someone can provide me info about those ?

3) is there anything else to know ?

4) in future if i go holiday in thailand will i need to fix a visa ? or i can use somehow the certificate of marriege to enter the country ?(dont want re-enter the country every 1-2-3 months)

(got a answer that i must apply for a non-O visa can some1 tell me about that ?)

5) in future if we plan a trip to Greece does my wife need a visa to enter ? or we should apply some papers in the Greek embassy in uk or bkk ? and what are those ?

i know that probably there is a forum that i havent seen about this matter

if so can any1 link me to that so i can get some ideas ?

thanks in advance

waiting reply`s

[7by7]

I can't answer your questions about Thai visas, I'm afraid.

As for marrying in Thailand, Thai law says that you will need to sign an affirmation of freedom to marry at the Greek embassy, I'm sure the Greek embassy will have details of how to do that.

You then have this translated into Thai and have the translation certified by the Thai MFA.

You can then marry at any ampur.

As an EEA national exercising a treaty right in the UK you have the right for your Thai wife to live in the UK with you.

She will need to apply for an EEA family permit

Your wife will probably need a Schengen visa to enter Greece, but I don't know how to obtain a Greek one. Check with the Greek embassy.

[thomasteve]

You can enter Thailand for up to 30 days without a visa if Greece is one of their Visa exempt countries.

Otherwise you can apply for a tourist visa to stay longer, You can get married whilst there without needing a different visa.

More info here : http://www.thaiembassy.com/quickinfo/show_info.php

If you want to revisit Thailand you can do so as above but if you wanted to stay there for more than 6 months (without having to leave and re-enter) then you're best advised to obtain a different visa but that will require you to satisfy additional reporting and financial conditions.

Edited June 27, 2013 by thomasteve

[timeshort]

I can't answer your questions about Thai visas, I'm afraid.

As for marrying in Thailand, Thai law says that you will need to sign an affirmation of freedom to marry at the Greek embassy, I'm sure the Greek embassy will have details of how to do that.

You then have this translated into Thai and have the translation certified by the Thai MFA.

You can then marry at any ampur.

As an EEA national exercising a treaty right in the UK you have the right for your Thai wife to live in the UK with you.

She will need to apply for an EEA family permit

Your wife will probably need a Schengen visa to enter Greece, but I don't know how to obtain a Greek one. Check with the Greek embassy.

thanks for the kind info

the EEA family permit i must apply at bkk uk embassy and after we got marry ?

do u know how long time does it take to be valid ?

can i translate this document and certified as well in the Thailand embassy here in the UK ? or should i go to Thailand and do it there ?

(i prefer here in the uk save some time)

some1 have told me about a non-O visa so i not have restrictred days to stay in Thailand

can u provide me info about that ?

about the schengen visa ill ask Greek embassy and tell u so ull know as well

[timeshort]

You can enter Thailand for up to 30 days without a visa if Greece is one of their Visa exempt countries.

Otherwise you can apply for a tourist visa to stay longer, You can get married whilst there without needing a different visa.

More info here : http://www.thaiembassy.com/quickinfo/show_info.php

If you want to revisit Thailand you can do so as above but if you wanted to stay there for more than 6 months (without having to leave and re-enter) then you're best advised to obtain a different visa but that will require you to satisfy additional reporting and financial conditions.

yes i have enter before in Thailand without a visa

i know that i can have 30+7 days when i enter

or i can go for 60+30 days if i go to a Thailand embassy before i enter the country

but im not asking about that

maybe in future we have plans to open some kind of work or buy some land or even retire there

so i want to know from now what i should do

because 30 or 90 days is not enough when i want to stay permant there

that why i ask for a solution about visa issue

so what about the visa that u are talking about ?

can u be more specific ? or give me a link about that ?

[thomasteve]

You can enter Thailand for up to 30 days without a visa if Greece is one of their Visa exempt countries.

Otherwise you can apply for a tourist visa to stay longer, You can get married whilst there without needing a different visa.

More info here : http://www.thaiembassy.com/quickinfo/show_info.php

If you want to revisit Thailand you can do so as above but if you wanted to stay there for more than 6 months (without having to leave and re-enter) then you're best advised to obtain a different visa but that will require you to satisfy additional reporting and financial conditions.

yes i have enter before in Thailand without a visa

i know that i can have 30+7 days when i enter

or i can go for 60+30 days if i go to a Thailand embassy before i enter the country

but im not asking about that

maybe in future we have plans to open some kind of work or buy some land or even retire there

so i want to know from now what i should do

because 30 or 90 days is not enough when i want to stay permant there

that why i ask for a solution about visa issue

so what about the visa that u are talking about ?

can u be more specific ? or give me a link about that ?

My reply was based on your initial post which seemed to indicate that you wanted to go to Thailand for a few months to get married then leave Thailand for as you say : ' UK stay and work'.

However, if you want to live in Thailand on a permanent basis a tourist visa will not be suitable and you should refer to the link I provided as well as looking at the correct part of this forum :http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/1-thai-visas-residency-and-work-permits/

Edited June 28, 2013 by thomasteve

[7by7]

I can't answer your questions about Thai visas, I'm afraid.

As for marrying in Thailand, Thai law says that you will need to sign an affirmation of freedom to marry at the Greek embassy, I'm sure the Greek embassy will have details of how to do that.

You then have this translated into Thai and have the translation certified by the Thai MFA.

You can then marry at any ampur.

As an EEA national exercising a treaty right in the UK you have the right for your Thai wife to live in the UK with you.

She will need to apply for an EEA family permit

Your wife will probably need a Schengen visa to enter Greece, but I don't know how to obtain a Greek one. Check with the Greek embassy.

thanks for the kind info

the EEA family permit i must apply at bkk uk embassy and after we got marry ?

do u know how long time does it take to be valid ?

can i translate this document and certified as well in the Thailand embassy here in the UK ? or should i go to Thailand and do it there ?

(i prefer here in the uk save some time)

some1 have told me about a non-O visa so i not have restrictred days to stay in Thailand

can u provide me info about that ?

about the schengen visa ill ask Greek embassy and tell u so ull know as well

You'll get more answers to your questions about Thai visas in the Thai visas , residency and work permits forum.

So better, I think, that you post them there are keep this topic to questions about her EEA family permit.

You do have to be married for her to qualify for an EEA family permit, unless you can show that you have been living together as if married for at least the last two years.

So she applies after the marriage in Thailand via the UK visa application centre.

EU law says that these permits should be issued with the minimum of delay; they are also free.

You cannot do the affirmation of freedom to marry outside Thailand. Thai law says that you must sign it in front of a consular official at your embassy, who then witnesses your signature, and the translation must be certified by the Thai MFA in Bangkok.

[Jay Sata]

The guy is a troll 7by7. Sadly you recently used that term to describe me.

[timeshort]

I can't answer your questions about Thai visas, I'm afraid.

As for marrying in Thailand, Thai law says that you will need to sign an affirmation of freedom to marry at the Greek embassy, I'm sure the Greek embassy will have details of how to do that.

You then have this translated into Thai and have the translation certified by the Thai MFA.

You can then marry at any ampur.

As an EEA national exercising a treaty right in the UK you have the right for your Thai wife to live in the UK with you.

She will need to apply for an EEA family permit

Your wife will probably need a Schengen visa to enter Greece, but I don't know how to obtain a Greek one. Check with the Greek embassy.

thanks for the kind info

the EEA family permit i must apply at bkk uk embassy and after we got marry ?

do u know how long time does it take to be valid ?

can i translate this document and certified as well in the Thailand embassy here in the UK ? or should i go to Thailand and do it there ?

(i prefer here in the uk save some time)

some1 have told me about a non-O visa so i not have restrictred days to stay in Thailand

can u provide me info about that ?

about the schengen visa ill ask Greek embassy and tell u so ull know as well

You'll get more answers to your questions about Thai visas in the Thai visas , residency and work permits forum.

So better, I think, that you post them there are keep this topic to questions about her EEA family permit.

You do have to be married for her to qualify for an EEA family permit, unless you can show that you have been living together as if married for at least the last two years.

So she applies after the marriage in Thailand via the UK visa application centre.

EU law says that these permits should be issued with the minimum of delay; they are also free.

You cannot do the affirmation of freedom to marry outside Thailand. Thai law says that you must sign it in front of a consular official at your embassy, who then witnesses your signature, and the translation must be certified by the Thai MFA in Bangkok.

so does any1 know what exactly needs so my lady can have a EEA family permit ?

i think those are the follow things

1 a copy of the EEA national's passport

2 marriage certificate

3 a letter from the EEA national are joining them in the UK

4 their contract of employment, wage slips and/or a letter from their employer

5 evidence of their National Insurance contributions

6 evidence that they have sufficient funds to maintain themselves and their family members

for the period of their residence in the UK, if they are self-sufficient.

if something more or something different pls correct me

can u tell me about this thailand MFA ?

is it ministry of foreign affairs of the kingdom of thailand ?

and if so can u pls give me a adress so i can find it ?

thanks again for ur time

[7by7]

Information on what is required for an EEA family permit can be found at EEA Family Permits and the links from there.

The address where you take the translation of your affirmation of freedom to marry to be certified is:

The Legalisation Division

Department of Consular Affairs

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

123 Chaeng Wattana Road

Laksi District

Bangkok 10210

Telephone: +66 (0)2 575 1057–60, (0)2981 7171 (at 08:30 – 15:30 hrs)

Fax : +66 (0)2 575 1054

Email: [email protected]

[timeshort]

Information on what is required for an EEA family permit can be found at EEA Family Permits and the links from there.

The address where you take the translation of your affirmation of freedom to marry to be certified is:

The Legalisation Division

Department of Consular Affairs

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

123 Chaeng Wattana Road

Laksi District

Bangkok 10210

Telephone: +66 (0)2 575 1057–60, (0)2981 7171 (at 08:30 – 15:30 hrs)

Fax : +66 (0)2 575 1054

Email: [email protected]

thanks for the kind information

let me ask u something last

do u know how many days it takes so it can be translated ?

[7by7]

I don't know how long the Greek embassy will take to notarise it, the British embassy takes, if memory serves, 1 day.

Most translation offices in Bangkok are familiar with these, so will do same day.

Again from memory, but if you go to the MFA in the morning you can have the translation legalised the same day.

So I'd allow three days, but could be less.

You can then go to any ampur in Thailand to register the marriage.

[timeshort]

I don't know how long the Greek embassy will take to notarise it, the British embassy takes, if memory serves, 1 day.

Most translation offices in Bangkok are familiar with these, so will do same day.

Again from memory, but if you go to the MFA in the morning you can have the translation legalised the same day.

So I'd allow three days, but could be less.

You can then go to any ampur in Thailand to register the marriage.

i will get the paper from greece embassy in uk

but do i need also from the uk ?

"You can then go to any ampur in Thailand to register the marriage."

what u mean ?

after i get marry i can go there ?

and whats a ampur ?

thanks again

[theoldgit]

and whats a ampur ?

That's a minor typo, he means Amphur, a government administrative office.

[7by7]

i will get the paper from greece embassy in uk

You cannot get the affirmation of freedom to marry from the Greek embassy in the UK.

Thai law says it must be done at your embassy in Thailand.

As you are a Greek citizen this will be the Greek embassy, even though you live in the UK.

[timeshort]

i will get the paper from greece embassy in uk

You cannot get the affirmation of freedom to marry from the Greek embassy in the UK.

Thai law says it must be done at your embassy in Thailand.

As you are a Greek citizen this will be the Greek embassy, even though you live in the UK.

i must take the affirmation of freedom from greek embassy and uk embassy from bkk ? and then go translate ?

[7by7]

No, you are Greek, therefore the British embassy will have nothing to do with it. They will only notarise AFMs for British citizens; just as the Greek embassy will only notarise AFMs for Greek citizens.

• Contact Greek embassy in Bangkok for how to obtain the form.
• Complete it and take it to the Greek embassy in Bangkok to sign it and have your signature notarised. If you have been married before also take evidence that the marriage is over; divorce or death certificate as appropriate.
• Have it translated into Thai by any competent translation agency.
• Take the original and translation to the MFA to have the translation legalised.

You can then marry.

Greek embassy.

Your first contact with the British embassy will be after your marriage when she applies for her EEA family permit to live in the UK with you. Even then you will not submit her application to the British embassy directly but via the UK Visa Application Centre.

However, you/she will first need to complete an online application; starting here.

[timeshort]

No, you are Greek, therefore the British embassy will have nothing to do with it. They will only notarise AFMs for British citizens; just as the Greek embassy will only notarise AFMs for Greek citizens.

• Contact Greek embassy in Bangkok for how to obtain the form.
• Complete it and take it to the Greek embassy in Bangkok to sign it and have your signature notarised. If you have been married before also take evidence that the marriage is over; divorce or death certificate as appropriate.
• Have it translated into Thai by any competent translation agency.
• Take the original and translation to the MFA to have the translation legalised.

You can then marry.

Greek embassy.

Your first contact with the British embassy will be after your marriage when she applies for her EEA family permit to live in the UK with you. Even then you will not submit her application to the British embassy directly but via the UK Visa Application Centre.

However, you/she will first need to complete an online application; starting here.

ok i understand that i have to get AFM from the Greek embassy

but shouldnt i get AFM also from the UK embassy as well ? since i live here almost 1 year now ?

dont get me wrong im still trying to find out the correct way on the web site u provide me and i maybe didnt read somethings correctly

after we marry and give our papers to ampur we will get the marriege certificate

then..

my future wife must complete a " VAF5 application form " + add the " EEA family permit " papers that are required

and must send em by mail to the UK embassy in BKK

thanks for ur understanding and for ur help

[7by7]

Where you sign the AFM depends on your nationality, not where you live. You are Greek so you sign the AFM at the Greek embassy.

Once you are married your wife, with your help if necessary, completes form VAF5 online, following the steps in the link provided earlier.

Once complete she submits the online form and makes an appointment with the UKVAC. Then print out the completed form, she signs it and takes it to her appointment along with her supporting documents where she will have her biometrics taken.

The UKVAC will then forward the whole application pack to the embassy where the decision will be made.