Brand new coilovers angle grinded!

[WarpSpeed]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly.

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

[misterphil]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

He would put his friends and family in a dangerous car, they don't care less, you've seen the way they drive, well attempt to drive. Yeah of coarse its fine until the wall of the tyre rubs through and at 140km it blows off. Ive been in a car when it had a high speed blow out and you will not believe how the car reacts when that happens. It will pull you in to the side of the road and it shakes so violently you cant see where your going. Very very scary.

[WarpSpeed]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Why would you laugh at what I asked him to do? I wanted him to send me photos of the caster, camber and toe in and out steering and suspension geometry so I could see the problem. He didn't need to do that in a workshop he could of done it in a street or anywhere. Anyway I told him what was wrong with it before he took it back. Like I said in my first post to him, it sounds like the camber is set incorrectly. And what did Manit Center Max say where he took it to? The camber is set incorrectly, but what do I know? Only been doing this for 25 years.

He was mostly speaking about space to do so but his point is valid, without you knowing what the actually numbers and required numbers are you can't REALLY make an educated analysis. I do it often at the track and have a really good eye at it but still need to have a baseline to work with, in this case, you don't..

[dogpoo]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

He would put his friends and family in a dangerous car, they don't care less, you've seen the way they drive, well attempt to drive. Yeah of coarse its fine until the wall of the tyre rubs through and at 140km it blows off. Ive been in a car when it had a high speed blow out and you will not believe how the car reacts when that happens. It will pull you in to the side of the road and it shakes so violently you cant see where your going. Very very scary.

And that is why I ignored his advice and changed the tire, yes you are right they don't care, but there is no way he would have carried on using the tire!

[misterphil]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly.

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

Read my earlier post before he took it back.

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223242http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223243

[WarpSpeed]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly.

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

Read my earlier post before he took it back.

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223242http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223243

I think you need to reread my post, it is not a forgone conclusion that the one rubbing is the one at the wrong settings just because it rubs, like you suppose.. The other side may be too far positive..

[dogpoo]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

What I meant was hopefully they would pay for a new tire, yea right not interested as in there opinion the tire was okay, I have big hands the size of plates and I had a whole handful of rubber from the tire side wall, that's really safe to use, I don't think so!!

[misterphil]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly.

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

Read my earlier post before he took it back.

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223242http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223243

I think you need to reread my post, it is not a forgone conclusion that the one rubbing is the one at the wrong settings just because it rubs, like you suppose.. The other side may be too far positive..

They are adjusted separately at each side, if you adjust the camber on the LSF it doesn't alter the RSF.

[WarpSpeed]

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

What I meant was hopefully they would pay for a new tire, yea right not interested as in there opinion the tire was okay, I have big hands the size of plates and I had a whole handful of rubber from the tire side wall, that's really safe to use, I don't think so!!

Yes and as I said they failed to do the right thing firstly as well because you should have never had this issue (grinding down a new coil over adjuster for fitment <deleted>) and more over had you not noticed what would have been the outcome? From my point of view they lost all credibility from the beginning of your thread so I'd never view them with trust again to "do the right thing"..

[WarpSpeed]

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

Read my earlier post before he took it back.

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223242http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223243

I think you need to reread my post, it is not a forgone conclusion that the one rubbing is the one at the wrong settings just because it rubs, like you suppose.. The other side may be too far positive..

They are adjusted separately at each side, if you adjust the camber on the LSF it doesn't alter the RSF.

Of course they're independently adjusted now your on the right track..You're confused, do some research or conversely you could just comprehend my posts as a whole..Sorry Misterphil a bit harsh of a response on my part, I didn't realize this was a different poster I thought it was the previous poster who was questioning my previous posts and just not getting it.

The fact that they are independently adjusted means that the one that is rubbing is not necessarily the improperly set side without an actual alignment rack measure to gauge the proper factory settings, this can't be done by eye on the Internet.. Also there is some effect side to side when the adjustment is made just watch how the numbers change when the adjustments are made and that is why a good alignment tech moves it side to side and should even bounce the car after the adjustment has been made to settle & equalize the suspension after the adjustments.

[dogpoo]

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

What I meant was hopefully they would pay for a new tire, yea right not interested as in there opinion the tire was okay, I have big hands the size of plates and I had a whole handful of rubber from the tire side wall, that's really safe to use, I don't think so!!

Yes and as I said they failed to do the right thing firstly as well because you should have never had this issue (grinding down a new coil over adjuster <deleted>) and more over had you not noticed what would have been the outcome? From my point of view they lost all credibility from the beginning of your thread so I'd never view them with trust again to "do the right thing"..

And I will not be going back, do they care, no of course not!

[dogpoo]

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

What I meant was hopefully they would pay for a new tire, yea right not interested as in there opinion the tire was okay, I have big hands the size of plates and I had a whole handful of rubber from the tire side wall, that's really safe to use, I don't think so!!

Yes and as I said they failed to do the right thing firstly as well because you should have never had this issue (grinding down a new coil over adjuster for fitment <deleted>) and more over had you not noticed what would have been the outcome? From my point of view they lost all credibility from the beginning of your thread so I'd never view them with trust again to "do the right thing"..

The coilover looked bad because it was covered in rubber, but on inspection at Manit the paint had just been rubbed away ln the adjusting collars, no damage to the coilover!

[WarpSpeed]

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

What I meant was hopefully they would pay for a new tire, yea right not interested as in there opinion the tire was okay, I have big hands the size of plates and I had a whole handful of rubber from the tire side wall, that's really safe to use, I don't think so!!

Yes and as I said they failed to do the right thing firstly as well because you should have never had this issue (grinding down a new coil over adjuster <deleted>) and more over had you not noticed what would have been the outcome? From my point of view they lost all credibility from the beginning of your thread so I'd never view them with trust again to "do the right thing"..

And I will not be going back, do they care, no of course not!

Never fail to fail, it's endemic...BTW my reference is directed at the techs and company, not you..

[dogpoo]

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

What I meant was hopefully they would pay for a new tire, yea right not interested as in there opinion the tire was okay, I have big hands the size of plates and I had a whole handful of rubber from the tire side wall, that's really safe to use, I don't think so!!

Yes and as I said they failed to do the right thing firstly as well because you should have never had this issue (grinding down a new coil over adjuster <deleted>) and more over had you not noticed what would have been the outcome? From my point of view they lost all credibility from the beginning of your thread so I'd never view them with trust again to "do the right thing"..

And I will not be going back, do they care, no of course not!

Never fail to fail, it's endemic...BTW my reference is directed at the techs and company, not you..

Okay no problem!

[misterphil]

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

Read my earlier post before he took it back.

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223242http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223243

I think you need to reread my post, it is not a forgone conclusion that the one rubbing is the one at the wrong settings just because it rubs, like you suppose.. The other side may be too far positive..

They are adjusted separately at each side, if you adjust the camber on the LSF it doesn't alter the RSF.

Of course they're independently adjusted now your on the right track..You're confused, do some research or conversely you could just comprehend my posts as a whole..

I read your post, you told him to fit spacers cause you thought that the wheels he had fitted were from a RWD car with the wrong offset ????????

Quote from you.

IMHO is spot on, sounds as if the offset is incorrect, probably RWD on FWD I don't know what type of car it is, I missed that somewhere. Or conversely the lower coil over adjuster is not properly positioned and dug into the tire side wall. At any rate incompetence at it's worst..

[misterphil]

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

Read my earlier post before he took it back.

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223242http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223243

I think you need to reread my post, it is not a forgone conclusion that the one rubbing is the one at the wrong settings just because it rubs, like you suppose.. The other side may be too far positive..

They are adjusted separately at each side, if you adjust the camber on the LSF it doesn't alter the RSF.

Of course they're independently adjusted now your on the right track..You're confused, do some research or conversely you could just comprehend my posts as a whole..

I read your post, you told him to fit spacers cause you thought that the wheels he had fitted were from a RWD car with the wrong offset ????????

Quote from you.

IMHO is spot on, sounds as if the offset is incorrect, probably RWD on FWD I don't know what type of car it is, I missed that somewhere. Or conversely the lower coil over adjuster is not properly positioned and dug into the tire side wall. At any rate incompetence at it's worst..

[misterphil]

Or the one that doesn't rub isn't correct and the one that does is correct, that's the conundrum, which is correct without having it properly checked on a rack all else is conjecture. And in this case a picture is not necessarily worth a thousand words..

Read my earlier post before he took it back.

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223242http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=223243

I think you need to reread my post, it is not a forgone conclusion that the one rubbing is the one at the wrong settings just because it rubs, like you suppose.. The other side may be too far positive..

They are adjusted separately at each side, if you adjust the camber on the LSF it doesn't alter the RSF.

Of course they're independently adjusted now your on the right track..You're confused, do some research or conversely you could just comprehend my posts as a whole..

I read your post, you told him to fit spacers cause you thought that the wheels he had fitted were from a RWD car with the wrong offset ????????

Quote from you.

IMHO is spot on, sounds as if the offset is incorrect, probably RWD on FWD I don't know what type of car it is, I missed that somewhere. Or conversely the lower coil over adjuster is not properly positioned and dug into the tire side wall. At any rate incompetence at it's worst..

[WarpSpeed]

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

What I meant was hopefully they would pay for a new tire, yea right not interested as in there opinion the tire was okay, I have big hands the size of plates and I had a whole handful of rubber from the tire side wall, that's really safe to use, I don't think so!!

Yes and as I said they failed to do the right thing firstly as well because you should have never had this issue (grinding down a new coil over adjuster for fitment <deleted>) and more over had you not noticed what would have been the outcome? From my point of view they lost all credibility from the beginning of your thread so I'd never view them with trust again to "do the right thing"..

The coilover looked bad because it was covered in rubber, but on inspection at Manit the paint had just been rubbed away ln the adjusting collars, no damage to the coilover!

Well that's good news in part, anyways..

[WarpSpeed]

I think you need to reread my post, it is not a forgone conclusion that the one rubbing is the one at the wrong settings just because it rubs, like you suppose.. The other side may be too far positive..

They are adjusted separately at each side, if you adjust the camber on the LSF it doesn't alter the RSF.

Of course they're independently adjusted now your on the right track..You're confused, do some research or conversely you could just comprehend my posts as a whole..

I read your post, you told him to fit spacers cause you thought that the wheels he had fitted were from a RWD car with the wrong offset ????????

Quote from you.

IMHO is spot on, sounds as if the offset is incorrect, probably RWD on FWD I don't know what type of car it is, I missed that somewhere. Or conversely the lower coil over adjuster is not properly positioned and dug into the tire side wall. At any rate incompetence at it's worst..

Not sure what that has to do with the most previous posts after I had more facts presented, my current posts reference the cars alignment settings (camber more specifically) and THAT was the discussion at hand..

BTW you didn't have to be redundant, I got the first posting

Christ! I am confused regarding who I've been addressing, it is Mister Phil I was addressing not the OP, yes read my most current posts regarding the camber settings and your assumptions..

[BSJ]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Why would you laugh at what I asked him to do? I wanted him to send me photos of the caster, camber and toe in and out steering and suspension geometry so I could see the problem. He didn't need to do that in a workshop he could of done it in a street or anywhere. Anyway I told him what was wrong with it before he took it back. Like I said in my first post to him, it sounds like the camber is set incorrectly. And what did Manit Center Max say where he took it to? The camber is set incorrectly, but what do I know? Only been doing this for 25 years.

You have to be realistic. A workshop floor maybe level but outside the door, on the street, anything goes! What you really need is a computer liner and an expert operator.

[WarpSpeed]

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Why would you laugh at what I asked him to do? I wanted him to send me photos of the caster, camber and toe in and out steering and suspension geometry so I could see the problem. He didn't need to do that in a workshop he could of done it in a street or anywhere. Anyway I told him what was wrong with it before he took it back. Like I said in my first post to him, it sounds like the camber is set incorrectly. And what did Manit Center Max say where he took it to? The camber is set incorrectly, but what do I know? Only been doing this for 25 years.

You have to be realistic. A workshop floor maybe level but outside the door, on the street, anything goes! What you really need is a computer liner and an expert operator.

The professional machine is achievable, the expert operator??? probably not so much.

[misterphil]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Why would you laugh at what I asked him to do? I wanted him to send me photos of the caster, camber and toe in and out steering and suspension geometry so I could see the problem. He didn't need to do that in a workshop he could of done it in a street or anywhere. Anyway I told him what was wrong with it before he took it back. Like I said in my first post to him, it sounds like the camber is set incorrectly. And what did Manit Center Max say where he took it to? The camber is set incorrectly, but what do I know? Only been doing this for 25 years.

You have to be realistic. A workshop floor maybe level but outside the door, on the street, anything goes! What you really need is a computer liner and an expert operator.

The OP said that it looked like it had too much negative camber so I asked him to send me photos to have a look. All he had to do is kneel down and take photos of what I requested, not f~<#^!^g rocket science. Anyway I was right in the first place.

[dogpoo]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Why would you laugh at what I asked him to do? I wanted him to send me photos of the caster, camber and toe in and out steering and suspension geometry so I could see the problem. He didn't need to do that in a workshop he could of done it in a street or anywhere. Anyway I told him what was wrong with it before he took it back. Like I said in my first post to him, it sounds like the camber is set incorrectly. And what did Manit Center Max say where he took it to? The camber is set incorrectly, but what do I know? Only been doing this for 25 years.

You have to be realistic. A workshop floor maybe level but outside the door, on the street, anything goes! What you really need is a computer liner and an expert operator.

The OP said that it looked like it had too much negative camber so I asked him to send me photos to have a look. All he had to do is kneel down and take photos of what I requested, not f~

I can still do if you would like?

[WarpSpeed]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Why would you laugh at what I asked him to do? I wanted him to send me photos of the caster, camber and toe in and out steering and suspension geometry so I could see the problem. He didn't need to do that in a workshop he could of done it in a street or anywhere. Anyway I told him what was wrong with it before he took it back. Like I said in my first post to him, it sounds like the camber is set incorrectly. And what did Manit Center Max say where he took it to? The camber is set incorrectly, but what do I know? Only been doing this for 25 years.

You have to be realistic. A workshop floor maybe level but outside the door, on the street, anything goes! What you really need is a computer liner and an expert operator.

The OP said that it looked like it had too much negative camber so I asked him to send me photos to have a look. All he had to do is kneel down and take photos of what I requested, not f~<#^!^g rocket science. Anyway I was right in the first place.

Were you? Hadn't read that? Not saying you're not mind you but without a proper alignment no way to know for certain..

[BSJ]

Lets not get to excited about the photos. The real deal is the answer.

Available from 30 or 40 manufacturers world wide.

[hansgruber]

I see that the car is for sale now.

Didn't mention the ground coilover in the advertisment.

http://www.bahtsold.com/view/fantastic-nissan-march-for-sale-143228

[kartman]

I see that the car is for sale now.

Didn't mention the ground coilover in the advertisment.

http://www.bahtsold.com/view/fantastic-nissan-march-for-sale-143228

They appear to be coil unders

[dogpoo]

I see that the car is for sale now.

Didn't mention the ground coilover in the advertisment.

http://www.bahtsold.com/view/fantastic-nissan-march-for-sale-143228

They appear to be coil unders

No the car is not for sale and there is nothing wrong with the coilovers, at the time it looked bad because it was covered in rubber from the tire, once this was removed it showed the coilover was missing the surface paint.

[dogpoo]

I saw the mechanic using the angle grinder, I now know he was grinding the metal which held the wing in place, it was fairly large and close to the tire, the tire rubbed against the coilover causing a large amount of rubber to come away and cover the coilover this made me jump to the conclusion he had damaged the coilover, Manit Center examined it and said all okay! I advertised the car to see if there would be any interest, I got a buyer within hours of the advert going live, I don't want to sell at the moment and have this guy ready should I decide too.

[dogpoo]

Just to make it clear, I would never knowingly sell anything that I knew had something wrong, if there was anything wrong I would replace it!