Brand new coilovers angle grinded!

[dogpoo]

intentional negative camber has nothing to do with the coilovers, obviously a previous poster has got it all wrong, I am reverting the 3 degrees of negative camber back to 0 as I have decided its not what I want(it was done purely for look which I now don't want, the coilovers were fitted to enable me to have the car lowered and stiffer than standard, I fail to see how it's a waste if money!! if I can explain further don't hesitate to post and ask further questions!

[Ace of Pop]

Im sure my first Wife had a Coilover,before the Pill came available.

Mine wanted a Big Block ''Chevy'' so you can guess what happened.

You Called for the Angle Grinder.

[dogpoo]

So there!! Lol

[Spoonman]

intentional negative camber has nothing to do with the coilovers, obviously a previous poster has got it all wrong, I am reverting the 3 degrees of negative camber back to 0 as I have decided its not what I want(it was done purely for look which I now don't want, the coilovers were fitted to enable me to have the car lowered and stiffer than standard, I fail to see how it's a waste if money!! if I can explain further don't hesitate to post and ask further questions!

Somchai could have made it lower and stiffer with his angle grinder by cutting off a coil or 2 as you obviously do not give a rat's about handling by setting the coil overs to stock specs............ think of the savings you could have put towards that tow hook.

[dogpoo]

intentional negative camber has nothing to do with the coilovers, obviously a previous poster has got it all wrong, I am reverting the 3 degrees of negative camber back to 0 as I have decided its not what I want(it was done purely for look which I now don't want, the coilovers were fitted to enable me to have the car lowered and stiffer than standard, I fail to see how it's a waste if money!! if I can explain further don't hesitate to post and ask further questions!

Somchai could have made it lower and stiffer with his angle grinder by cutting off a coil or 2 as you obviously do not give a rat's about handling by setting the coil overs to stock specs............ think of the savings you could have put towards that tow hook.

Mate have you got any idea what you are talking about or are you just trying to be funny!!

[harrry]

OK, thanks. As you probably know the strut bolts up at the top of the inner wing. If it is removed it must go back in the exact same place unless geometry is being changed. A good shop can do this. In Ubon we have a place that really knows what it is doing . Brilliant computer setup. On my ol' Pontiac I did it with lumps of wood and a bolt on level gauge , it worked for me. No struts though, double wishbone.

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

Good to see you are willing to lose face and a little bit of money to reset the car to how it performs best. Some changes are worth it and some aren't.

[dogpoo]

OK, thanks. As you probably know the strut bolts up at the top of the inner wing. If it is removed it must go back in the exact same place unless geometry is being changed. A good shop can do this. In Ubon we have a place that really knows what it is doing . Brilliant computer setup. On my ol' Pontiac I did it with lumps of wood and a bolt on level gauge , it worked for me. No struts though, double wishbone.

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

Good to see you are willing to lose face and a little bit of money to reset the car to how it performs best. Some changes are worth it and some aren't.

I have altered the coilover settings a few times now trying to get the best handling, maybe a previous poster thinks it can be done the first time!

[dogpoo]

OK, thanks. As you probably know the strut bolts up at the top of the inner wing. If it is removed it must go back in the exact same place unless geometry is being changed. A good shop can do this. In Ubon we have a place that really knows what it is doing . Brilliant computer setup. On my ol' Pontiac I did it with lumps of wood and a bolt on level gauge , it worked for me. No struts though, double wishbone.

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

Good to see you are willing to lose face and a little bit of money to reset the car to how it performs best. Some changes are worth it and some aren't.

I have altered the coilover settings a few times now trying to get the best handling, maybe a previous poster thinks it can be done the first time! the car is only used a couple of times a week so it takes time to find what is best!

[WarpSpeed]

professionals DO not tailgate, who told you this and who taught you this?

Driving professionally for many years at levels you can't even imagine, don't need to be told or taught since 40 years ago.. The problem is amateurs determining who is professional by their standards..

How about these professionals?

All seem like professionals of the highest order to me!!

And riding bumpers to boot..

You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community.

<deleted>! Getting a bit tired of having this pop up on every picture I try to post..<deleted>?

Figured it out finally..

That doesn't look like public roads to me!! do you treat public roads like a race track?

Only when driving on them and have somewhere to go and run upon a really slow moving Nissan or Mazda for example, but point missed again, these "professionals" and those who drive daily for a living qualify as "professionals" and also drive on the roads and have to tolerate drivers of the kind of which you describe and seem to be in a class with, based on your complaint and if you don't do it as a "profession" then you aren't a professional and aren't in a position to judge who is professional and who isn't just based on your personal feelings about how they drive around you.. Fact is, you said "professionals DO not tail gate" and I provided definitive evidence to counter that misguided and ill informed assumption, clear enough?

Curious though, now I'm seriously wondering why you even modified this car in the first place? Seems a serious waste of time and money if not put to some good use?

[WarpSpeed]

What sort of racing car is it?

Coilovers generally have terrible ride quality on the road, so excuse me if my assumption is wrong

Now this really jumps out..

[WarpSpeed]

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

You have gone to the trouble of having coil over's fitted and your going to revert to OEM suspension geometry..........what a waste of time and money.

Seems there's plenty of that but hey! Like he says, it's his wasted money ..

[WarpSpeed]

intentional negative camber has nothing to do with the coilovers, obviously a previous poster has got it all wrong, I am reverting the 3 degrees of negative camber back to 0 as I have decided its not what I want(it was done purely for look which I now don't want, the coilovers were fitted to enable me to have the car lowered and stiffer than standard, I fail to see how it's a waste if money!! if I can explain further don't hesitate to post and ask further questions!

Hopefully NOT back to 0....It was never at 0 to begin with..

[dogpoo]

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

You have gone to the trouble of having coil over's fitted and your going to revert to OEM suspension geometry..........what a waste of time and money.

Seems there's plenty of that but hey! Like he says, it's his wasted money ..

You got something right!

[WarpSpeed]

intentional negative camber has nothing to do with the coilovers, obviously a previous poster has got it all wrong, I am reverting the 3 degrees of negative camber back to 0 as I have decided its not what I want(it was done purely for look which I now don't want, the coilovers were fitted to enable me to have the car lowered and stiffer than standard, I fail to see how it's a waste if money!! if I can explain further don't hesitate to post and ask further questions!

Somchai could have made it lower and stiffer with his angle grinder by cutting off a coil or 2 as you obviously do not give a rat's about handling by setting the coil overs to stock specs............ think of the savings you could have put towards that tow hook.

Mate have you got any idea what you are talking about or are you just trying to be funny!!

So far, (and it pains me to say this) but he's making complete sense..

[dogpoo]

intentional negative camber has nothing to do with the coilovers, obviously a previous poster has got it all wrong, I am reverting the 3 degrees of negative camber back to 0 as I have decided its not what I want(it was done purely for look which I now don't want, the coilovers were fitted to enable me to have the car lowered and stiffer than standard, I fail to see how it's a waste if money!! if I can explain further don't hesitate to post and ask further questions!

Hopefully NOT back to 0....It was never at 0 to begin with..

To please you, camber back to original, is that okay!!

[dogpoo]

professionals DO not tailgate, who told you this and who taught you this?

Driving professionally for many years at levels you can't even imagine, don't need to be told or taught since 40 years ago.. The problem is amateurs determining who is professional by their standards..

How about these professionals?

All seem like professionals of the highest order to me!!

And riding bumpers to boot..

You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community.

<deleted>! Getting a bit tired of having this pop up on every picture I try to post..<deleted>?

Figured it out finally..

That doesn't look like public roads to me!! do you treat public roads like a race track?

Only when driving on them and have somewhere to go and run upon a really slow moving Nissan or Mazda for example, but point missed again, these "professionals" and those who drive daily for a living qualify as "professionals" and also drive on the roads and have to tolerate drivers of the kind of which you describe and seem to be in a class with, based on your complaint and if you don't do it as a "profession" then you aren't a professional and aren't in a position to judge who is professional and who isn't just based on your personal feelings about how they drive around you.. Fact is, you said "professionals DO not tail gate" and I provided definitive evidence to counter that misguided and ill informed assumption, clear enough?

Curious though, now I'm seriously wondering why you even modified this car in the first place? Seems a serious waste of time and money if not put to some good use?

The car was and has been modified because that is what I wanted to do, is this a problem for you?

[WarpSpeed]

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

You have gone to the trouble of having coil over's fitted and your going to revert to OEM suspension geometry..........what a waste of time and money.

Seems there's plenty of that but hey! Like he says, it's his wasted money ..

You got something right!

Yes and I've NEVER had a problem with big trucks, buses, driving at night (racing for that matter either), in the rain, nor have a set of coil overs installed improperly so that they ground down the sidewall of my tire before (mostly because I do it all myself anyways)..

[WarpSpeed]

That doesn't look like public roads to me!! do you treat public roads like a race track?

Only when driving on them and have somewhere to go and run upon a really slow moving Nissan or Mazda for example, but point missed again, these "professionals" and those who drive daily for a living qualify as "professionals" and also drive on the roads and have to tolerate drivers of the kind of which you describe and seem to be in a class with, based on your complaint and if you don't do it as a "profession" then you aren't a professional and aren't in a position to judge who is professional and who isn't just based on your personal feelings about how they drive around you.. Fact is, you said "professionals DO not tail gate" and I provided definitive evidence to counter that misguided and ill informed assumption, clear enough?

Curious though, now I'm seriously wondering why you even modified this car in the first place? Seems a serious waste of time and money if not put to some good use?

The car was and has been modified because that is what I wanted to do, is this a problem for you?

Nope, just amusing entertainment ....

[Spoonman]

I think (dogpoo) you should fit a rear strut bar, this will make it corner like a race car.

[WarpSpeed]

OK, thanks. As you probably know the strut bolts up at the top of the inner wing. If it is removed it must go back in the exact same place unless geometry is being changed. A good shop can do this. In Ubon we have a place that really knows what it is doing . Brilliant computer setup. On my ol' Pontiac I did it with lumps of wood and a bolt on level gauge , it worked for me. No struts though, double wishbone.

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

Good to see you are willing to lose face and a little bit of money to reset the car to how it performs best. Some changes are worth it and some aren't.

I have altered the coilover settings a few times now trying to get the best handling, maybe a previous poster thinks it can be done the first time!

Don't know which previous poster you're referring to, but I'm sure I could..

[dogpoo]

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

You have gone to the trouble of having coil over's fitted and your going to revert to OEM suspension geometry..........what a waste of time and money.

Seems there's plenty of that but hey! Like he says, it's his wasted money ..

You got something right!

Yes and I've NEVER had a problem with big trucks, buses, driving at night (racing for that matter either), in the rain, nor have a set of coil overs installed improperly so that they ground down the sidewall of my tire before (mostly because I do it all myself anyways)..

Good for you, some of us have to rely on others and hope they know what they are doing! When you are then told by the company that the tire missing quite a lot of rubber from the Inside tire wall is perfectly okay to use it makes you wonder just how competent these people are! anyway it's this simple I have added a few things to the car because that is what I wanted to do, I have modified every car I have ever owned, I now want to remove the camber angle because that is what I want to do!

[WarpSpeed]

I think (dogpoo) you should fit a rear strut bar, this will make it corner like a race car.

Maybe a front upper strut bar too, yes definitely.... All powder coated in a nice color to match the car, that's no intended reference to a previous thread BTW even though it is a clever segue..

[WarpSpeed]

Good for you, some of us have to rely on others and hope they know what they are doing! When you are then told by the company that the tire missing quite a lot of rubber from the Inside tire wall is perfectly okay to use it makes you wonder just how competent these people are! anyway it's this simple I have added a few things to the car because that is what I wanted to do, I have modified every car I have ever owned, I now want to remove the camber angle because that is what I want to do!

Ok I'll leave this now, it's beginning to look sad... dam_n, edit feature is all mucked up now,

[dogpoo]

Sorry I don't have a technical mind, not sure what you mean! I don't like the cambered wheels so I am having that reset back to normal next week?

You have gone to the trouble of having coil over's fitted and your going to revert to OEM suspension geometry..........what a waste of time and money.

Seems there's plenty of that but hey! Like he says, it's his wasted money ..

You got something right!

Yes and I've NEVER had a problem with big trucks, buses, driving at night (racing for that matter either), in the rain, nor have a set of coil overs installed improperly so that they ground down the sidewall of my tire before (mostly because I do it all myself anyways)..

Good for you, some of us have to rely on others and hope they know what they are doing! When you are then told by the company that the tire missing quite a lot of rubber from the Inside tire wall is perfectly okay to use it makes you wonder just how competent these people are! anyway it's this simple I have added a few things to the car because that is what I wanted to do, I have modified every car I have ever owned, I now want to remove the camber angle because that is what I want to do!

Ok I'll leave this now, it's beginning to look sad...

Oh and we are having so much fun!!

[dogpoo]

I think (dogpoo) you should fit a rear strut bar, this will make it corner like a race car.

Maybe a front upper strut bar too, yes definitely.... All powder coated in a nice color to match the car, that's no intended reference to a previous thread BTW even though it is a clever segue..

I thought about a large wooden spoiler, would that help down force?

[dogpoo]

Looks like the fun is over!! Nighty night!!

[Spoonman]

Good for you, some of us have to rely on others and hope they know what they are doing! When you are then told by the company that the tire missing quite a lot of rubber from the Inside tire wall is perfectly okay to use it makes you wonder just how competent these people are! anyway it's this simple I have added a few things to the car because that is what I wanted to do, I have modified every car I have ever owned, I now want to remove the camber angle because that is what I want to do!

Errm you drove the car didnt you......... did it not feel terrible to drive if one wheel had that much neg camber it was rubbing the strut tower, surely that should have had alarm bells ringing.

What are your caster and toe settings if you camber is now back to 0 ? .....(they should be on the alignment printout).

[dogpoo]

Good for you, some of us have to rely on others and hope they know what they are doing! When you are then told by the company that the tire missing quite a lot of rubber from the Inside tire wall is perfectly okay to use it makes you wonder just how competent these people are! anyway it's this simple I have added a few things to the car because that is what I wanted to do, I have modified every car I have ever owned, I now want to remove the camber angle because that is what I want to do!

Errm you drove the car didnt you......... did it not feel terrible to drive if one wheel had that much neg camber it was rubbing the strut tower, surely that should have had alarm bells ringing.

What are your caster and toe settings if you camber is now back to 0 ? .....(they should be on the alignment printout).

No the car did not feel different in any way, I noticed something was wrong when I got home, there was shed loads of rubber all over the front nearside wheel, have you not read any of the previous posts? Next week I am going to have the camber taken off and reverted back to standard, the company that put the negative camber on did it by eyesight, I thought this was strange at the time but because they have done many VIP cars with extreme camber I thought they knew what they were doing, I was wrong, the camber was corrected by Manit Center Max, according to them the effected side I think had 4 degrees of camber as opposed to the opposite side which had 3 degrees, I know nothing about this so I am at there mercy, it has been sorted by using spacers on the front and correcting the Camber which as I said was done by Manit, seriously I have done many things to cars that was not needed and in this case coilovers and Camber, yes I have wasted a pot load of money on cars but it's what I like doings, any body would think I was rich!

[dogpoo]

Good for you, some of us have to rely on others and hope they know what they are doing! When you are then told by the company that the tire missing quite a lot of rubber from the Inside tire wall is perfectly okay to use it makes you wonder just how competent these people are! anyway it's this simple I have added a few things to the car because that is what I wanted to do, I have modified every car I have ever owned, I now want to remove the camber angle because that is what I want to do!

Errm you drove the car didnt you......... did it not feel terrible to drive if one wheel had that much neg camber it was rubbing the strut tower, surely that should have had alarm bells ringing.

What are your caster and toe settings if you camber is now back to 0 ? .....(they should be on the alignment printout).

No the car did not feel different in any way, I noticed something was wrong when I got home, there was shed loads of rubber all over the front nearside wheel, have you not read any of the previous posts? Next week I am going to have the camber taken off and reverted back to standard, the company that put the negative camber on did it by eyesight, I thought this was strange at the time but because they have done many VIP cars with extreme camber I thought they knew what they were doing, I was wrong, the camber was corrected by Manit Center Max, according to them the effected side I think had 4 degrees of camber as opposed to the opposite side which had 3 degrees, I know nothing about this so I am at there mercy, it has been sorted by using spacers on the front and correcting the Camber which as I said was done by Manit, seriously I have done many things to cars that was not needed and in this case coilovers and Camber, yes I have wasted a pot load of money on cars but it's what I like doings, any body would think I was rich!

Manit can not take off the Camber so I have to take it back to the Installers, lets hope they do it right!

[dogpoo]

I am very reluctant to take the car back to the installers to have the camber reset to standard, I don't trust them to do the job correctly, it cost me over 4000฿ for a new tire after there mechanic failed to install it correctly, the car drives perfectly now and there are no problems, this will be my last car here so will enjoy as it is. In hind site I wish I had kept the car with the standard suspension, but you have to do what you like to do, it's not the end of the world!!